"Hey Destiny, I was watching Hutch earlier and some DGG peeps were pushing back on Hutch for distancing himself from you. Felt like this reflected poorly on DGG, but wanted to know your thoughts."
I don't think that people should harass anybody ever. I think that's stupid. I am looking for more of a 'stand tall on' thing, though. I think I'm probably going to encourage a little bit more—not aggressive behavior, but the apologetics like have to stop. It's too much, it's too cringe. I don't want any of this shit anymore.
It's like the actual meme, but even my community does it—like, "Yeah, Destiny is kind of a horrible piece of shit, like trash human, but you know he like has good political takes." Like that—this is cucked. This is fucking retarded. I'm going to try to start discouraging this behavior, okay? It's too cringe.
"Can you blame them for the initial situation? What you did was not worse than your average high schooler..."
Maybe. Well, allegedly.
"...But the lie she spread initially was mega scary. I think you should be open to people like Pisco or Turkey Tom."
The problem is that, like, the thing that I don't like—well, especially for people like in the Turkey Tom camp, is like so many of these people do this thing where they're like, "Oh, no, like, we should wait for all the information to come out, we should wait for all the facts to come out." They'll say this when it's like other people and not related to them. But then nobody will actually do that when it might like cost them a little bit.
So this is like a thing that I feel—I'm going to try to present this without sounding too conceited. But I don't give a fuck if I do, actually. I don't care. When I was in the carpet cleaning stuff, okay? So, bad life trajectory, not too much going on. My mindset then is the same as my mindset now, where it's like—If I had resources, the whole point of getting those resources is to be able to expend them, like when I want to, right?
So, if I have a lot of money right now, and I care about political stuff, then I want to spend it like trying to do political things, right? Whether that's canvassing, supporting campaigns, or door-knocking, or whatever the fuck. Like, why not? Like, this is the whole point in—like if I'm accruing resources in terms of money, then I would do that, right? If I'm accruing resources in terms of reputation, well, I would want to lend my reputation to like causes that I think are good, especially ones that I think are unfairly castigated by others on the internet.
So like, coming out defending ChudLogic when I thought those DM leaks were ridiculous, coming out defending PrimeCayes when I thought he was getting trampled and he just couldn't deal with that one chick who was accusing him of stuff, or when I see people not waiting for all the information to come out. It feels like sometimes people will build up all of these resources, but then they're really, really, really afraid of actually expending any of them to do a thing they believe in. Instead, it just becomes this massive accruing resources game.
And I don't know, that just feels kind of cringe to me, but. Like what would be the point of building up all this clout or reputation and stuff if I couldn't throw it around a little bit behind causes I believe in? Like people want zero-risk investments with all their stuff. And I just feel like that's a little—ahh, but.
"Tom and Pisco both couched language, which is why I brought them up specifically. With your reputation, that was a lot to ask."
I think that, unfortunately, as annoying as it is, the problem is that I feel like a lot of my reputational harm has come from, one, me letting memes go on for too long, and two, that exact mentality of maybe, maybe it's okay that if anything looks even remotely crazy ever, then you just let everybody take a huge step back until they see where the cards fall.
And I don't want sycophantic support, and it's always hard to balance these two things out. Like I don't want sycophants. But after I did that JonTron conversation—the JonTron guy, he said a lot of crazy things—and again, if you go watch that convo, I wasn't even trying to necessarily like bait him into insane shit. Like there were times where I tried to give him an offramp. I was like, "Damn, are you sure about this? Like, really, they have to be racially integrated? Seriously, genetically?" Like there were offramps I tried to give him.
But after the JonTron thing, bro, every single artist, every single E-guy, like stood so tall on his reputation trying to destroy me afterwards, just because they didn't like how that conversation went. And I don't think I would ever want support like that, but. I just—I don't think I need a lot of people or want a lot of people in my corner who are like, "Oh yeah, like a bad thing happened, so we're going to, you know, scatter and then wait and see what it looks like afterwards." It's just, eh. Meh.
"You say that now, and I feel like you've said it in the past, and you end up welcoming people back."
Yeah, I know. But I think I've gotten a little bit better over the past year of not doing that as much. And then, after this last thing, I think I'll continue on that trend.
Oh, fuck. I keep pausing this.
"Unironically, I only saw Myron stand for you."
Maybe, yeah. And Myron didn't even really stand for me. Myron was the only one who actually—which is so fucking sad and pathetic. But maybe—I don't know what it is. Myron was the only one that had like an actual mature take on—if somebody—if you have a friend who fucks up or whatever, basically. Which is like, publicly you're not going to pile on. And then privately, you know, you basically call him, you say, "Hey, stop being a fucking retard." Like, "How are you doing?" That was basically his message. I was like, "Yeah, actually, that would be incredibly nice if anybody could handle doing that." So, yeah.
"Aba kind of had that take too."
No, Aba's take was fucking dog shit. It was just a bunch of hand-wringing virtue bullshit. Aba's take was easily one of the worst. I just haven't bothered to go through it. But it's fucking cringe.
"But Destiny, what made the situation worse was that it was Pxie."
That is true. And the way that she wrote that Substack was insanely unhinged, for sure. But I think also—well, actually, this doesn't matter anymore. Because since—for the past like year and a half, I just don't like hook up with or do anything like that with like streamer people. I realize it's not worth it to ever be—having real-life friends and people that are outside of the industry is just way better. It's not worth it. Because everybody there is like—it's just too crazy. And everybody's prone to doing the most insanely stupid, retarded shit. Like there's just too much pressure for it.
Wait, fuck. I was answering a different question. I don't remember what I was answering. Oh! Yeah, yeah, just nothing with streamer people. I'm like, fuck that, it's just not worth it.
"What about with Kyla?"
I think Kyla's been fine for the most part. I don't think she's ever—there have been a couple ways that she's handled things or things she's said, where I'm like, "Eh, whatever." But no, I think for the most part, she tried to stand where I think she felt was right on that, which is fine.
