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What about socially conservative and economically left wing? Like wants less immigration, opposes gay marriage and abortion, but supports universal healthcare and higher minimum wages.
Well because we’re assuming this person doesn’t join/start his own party, depending on the current policy he might actually have been a democrat back when blue dog democrats or DINOs still were a part of the democrats big tent plan. Now adays they are firmly republicans if they arnt just an independent voter.
 
I recall there being a decent amount of sentiment in this thread around election time that Elon Musk was never really a part of MAGA, and that he latched on to serve his own self-interests especially regarding H1Bs. Kudos to those posters, their judgements were on the money given the events of today.

I don't think it's possible to see Elon as anything other than a lolcow after today. There's no reason to trust him, every lie is so thinly veiled that the only discernable truth to what he says is that he's upset. He only damages his own credibility by proclaiming that Trump is on the Epstein list, and it only makes him look insincere in everything he does when he spews random bullshit in tard rage. He seems arrogant enough to think that he's some sort of genius mastermind as well, as if anything he said makes him look good and he can fool the masses when everyone other than a few brownnosers can tell that he's full of shit and willing to betray anyone at a moment's notice.

BPD Whore is what I'd consider a good classification for the type of lolcow he's shown himself to be.
 
Trump administration ends TSA’s ‘Quiet Skies’ program used to surveil Americans
Straight Arrow News (archive.ph)
By Evan Hummel and Kalé Carey
6 Jun 2025 02:09:07 UTC

Full story​

The Trump administration confirmed a report on Thursday, June 5, that it is shuttering the Quiet Skies program, which was used to secretly surveil Americans who were deemed potential national security threats. The administration’s intent to end the program was first reported by CBS News on Wednesday, June 4, just a day before Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem made the official announcement on X.

Noem said that the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) “is ending the Quiet Skies Program, which since its existence has failed to stop a SINGLE terrorist attack while costing US taxpayers roughly $200 million a year.”

Noem’s rationale​

Noem argued that the Biden administration weaponized the program against political opponents “under the guise of national security.” She also vowed to launch an internal investigation into Quiet Skies and requested Congress also look into “corruption” within the program.

Noem said that the TSA will continue to be present at airports and perform its normal security duties, including REAL ID checks, a new rule implemented on May 7.

“The Trump administration will return the TSA to its true mission of being laser-focused on the safety and security of the traveling public,” she said. “This includes restoring the integrity, privacy and equal application of the law for all Americans.”

Previous criticism​

Quiet Skies has drawn criticism from some within the Trump administration, including U.S. Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, who was on the Quiet Skies list, according to TSA whistleblowers, as reported by Straight Arrow News in August 2024. Gabbard, at the time, announced legal action against the Biden administration, saying she believed the administration targeted her because of her outspoken views on Ukraine.

Democrats also targeted under Quiet Skies​

The agency never officially confirmed or declined Gabbard’s inclusion on the Quiet Skies list. The TSA was also reportedly using the program to monitor people in Washington at the time of the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol riots. Some U.S. citizens have had to undergo an extensive process to have their names removed from the list.

CBS News also reported on Tuesday, June 3, that the husband of Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., was on the Quiet Skies watchlist in 2023. However, shortly after Shaheen spoke with the TSA’s director under former President Joe Biden, her husband was removed from the list. A spokesperson for Shaheen said she previously had no knowledge her husband, William Shaheen, was tracked by the Quiet Skies program.

The Trump administration has not disclosed whether staff involved in the Quiet Skies program will be reassigned or if their positions will be eliminated.

Lawrence Banton (Digital Producer) and Bast Bramhall (Video Editor) contributed to this report.
 
The problem is, most of Republican Congress is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

If they vote for Trump's bill, Elon will support their enemies. But if they vote against it, Trump will come after them.

Trump has the legal power, Elon has the war chest to support rival candidates.

So they're fucked if they do, fucked if they don't.

Meanwhile, the liberals, RINOs, and anti-Trumpers are just sitting in a corner, laughing their asses off. They have no skin in the game, and would be more than happy to watch these two sides kill each other.
 
So sex trafficking, pedophilia, etc. was all good right up until monetary policy got involved. If Elon is lying (likely), he's retarded. If he's not lying, he's also retarded.
Didn't he get his ass sued earlier when some guy saved a bunch of guys trapped in a cave without his permission? Called him a pedophile and whoops that's defamation per se.

I'm just saying he's a retard but this is also on brand for his retardation.
 
Yeah, there's no way they will forgive him for disrupting their patronage network. Supporting Trump is one thing, but DOGE struck at the heart of their worldwide political machine, and it is one of the existential issues they have.
My point exactly. Shutting down USAID not only hurt the liberal world order, but it also hurt many farmers and people on welfare. On a practical level, going after Elon for DOGE would get a lot of votes secured for the Democrats in Red States.
 
The problem is, most of Republican Congress is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

If they vote for Trump's bill, Elon will support their enemies. But if they vote against it, Trump will come after them.

Trump has the legal power, Elon has the war chest to support rival candidates.

So they're fucked if they do, fucked if they don't.

Meanwhile, the liberals, RINOs, and anti-Trumpers are just sitting in a corner, laughing their asses off. They have no skin in the game, and would be more than happy to watch these two sides kill each other.
The literally could have put it vote the same day it got passed by the house and sent it to Trump. The issue is now the Senate is stripping out anything the voters want like No Tax on Tips and will then have to send to back to the house to vote again. If it's so good just vote it and get it signed. They are dragging it out and i can promise you it will not get passed before the July 4th date Trump demanded. We are in this mess because they are slow rolling everything.

There are currently 79 working days for the senate left in the year and 52 for the house.
 
The literally could have put it vote the same day it got passed by the house and sent it to Trump. The issue is now the Senate is stripping out anything the voters want like No Tax on Tips and will then have to send to back to the house to vote again. If it's so good just vote it and get it signed. They are dragging it out and i can promise you it will not get passed before the July 4th date Trump demanded. We are in this mess because they are slow rolling everything.

There are currently 79 working days for the senate left in the year and 52 for the house.
They're slow-rolling everything because they're going to get fucked either way. Trump or Elon. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. And they're already feeling the pressure from the other side BEFORE Elon called it quits and started pressuring them NOT to pass the bill.
 
I recall there being a decent amount of sentiment in this thread around election time that Elon Musk was never really a part of MAGA, and that he latched on to serve his own self-interests especially regarding H1Bs. Kudos to those posters, their judgements were on the money given the events of today.
After the assassination attempt there was a wave of podcast bros that could see the tide was turning.
Elon was never MAGA - his shit defending H1B visas right after the election proved that.
 
They're slow-rolling everything because they're going to get fucked either way. Trump or Elon. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. And they're already feeling the pressure from the other side BEFORE Elon called it quits and started pressuring them NOT to pass the bill.
Elon wasn't attacking them until they flat out refused to even work on DOGE cuts and shitcanned his NASA pick over BS.. Their slow rolling caused it. If they had passed a single one Elon could point to something. The slow rolling of everything caused this. 14 bills have been passed compared to 274 during last term. Tell me they are going to pass 260 bills and get them to Trump in 52 days. They need to pass 5 bills a day to even match last session.
 
but it also hurt many farmers and people on welfare
It's the US Agency for International Development. What people living on welfare? The way it "helped" US farmers, which is not what it's for, was the government using tax dollars to send domestic food to shitholes. Hard to make sense of this as a good program.
 
It's the US Agency for International Development. What people living on welfare? The way it "helped" US farmers, which is not what it's for, was the government using tax dollars to send domestic food to shitholes. Hard to make sense of this as a good program.
The thing is, the farmers relied on that money being used on them. So yes, they will be broke without USAID money, and with the alternative being to sell food to other countries being fucked up by the tariffs, they're fucked. These domestic farmers will have to close and sell to some Monsanto clones here in the States. Which of course, will lead to them voting Blue come next election.

Also, there's tons of people in the Red States that don't even have farms, that live on welfare, that USAID gives money to.

Elon wasn't attacking them until they flat out refused to even work on DOGE cuts and shitcanned his NASA pick over BS.. Their slow rolling caused it. If they had passed a single one Elon could point to something. The slow rolling of everything caused this. 14 bills have been passed compared to 274 during last term. Tell me they are going to pass 260 bills and get them to Trump in 52 days. They need to pass 5 bills a day to even match last session.
That's the thing. Elon got so used to the nepotism, that when Trump grew a spine and told him "no", he got uppity and left.
 
That's the thing. Elon got so used to the nepotism, that when Trump grew a spine and told him "no", he got uppity and left.
Trump said no to pushing congress to do DOGE cuts and a NASA pick that actually cared about getting people to the Moon and Mars. Trump did not say no when Elon demanded more H1-B slaves. Tells you everything you need to knows. Importing slaves is fine with Trump but shutting down government waste and advancing civilization is too far.
 
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