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He's still got junk in his system:

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No one was saying balance the budget. Cuts yes, which is being done, but by and large fixing the economy and immigration were the top things. Now Elon's looking for any attempt to cushion the crashout, even hiding behind pathetic Pence-level "this is America" bullshit.
>americans voted to:
>balance the budget
>release the epstein files

americans voted to close the border and kill DEI. trumps catchphrase is "build the wall" not "balance the budget".
 
Elon still poking the bear with the most obvious and correct take. Inaction has beaten down the base and republicans going back to the same playbook won't make the evil white men get out to vote. Trump isn't on the ticket and his voters won't vote unless they have a reason greater than "they will take your guns". See the disaster in Wisconsin. The RNC did nothing and even Elon stepping in and bank rolling it did nothing. If you have Elon out there funding primary challengers and spoil candidates they are mega screwed.
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This is my biggest fear. If the Democrats get control of Congress, which is already statistically likely based on past midterm elections, this will happen. Endless impeachments and bills to roll back every EO. If they get a veto-proof majority, everything Trump ever did will be erased. They'll reopen every closed agency and rehire every Fed with raises and backpay. They'll codify the agenda they wanted with President Kamala.
 
I have always had mixed feelings on Musk after empty promises and his retarded killing of high speed rail for his hyperloop vaporware. SpaceX has done some pretty cool shit though. That H1B shit also didn't help him for me.

I would be completely shocked though if there was ANY substantiative evidence linking Trump to Epstein that we hadn't seen. Biden's FBI would have dropped that shit the second they found it and it would be running 24/7 on every news network and Netflix would have a special on it.
 
Elon didn’t do that; California did that all on their own.
Elon had a substantial hand in it. He sold a bunch of bullshit to the retards in California and funding ear marked for the project went to his retarded hyperloop which offers very few tangible benefits for a technology that has tons of issues and was such a fuckup and failure he abandoned it completely.

Compared to high speed rail a completely proven technology that works so well the Chinese rarely have crashes with their hilarious safety standards.
 
The reason you get omnibus bills is that congressmen and Senators in safe seats do not give a flying fuck what the voters want. None. They care about what they, personally, and their donors want, and they will vote to scuttle the most popular, beneficial bill in the world if it means their skids aren't getting greased. So if there were a bill to just fund immigration enforcement, you'd see a good chunk of Republicans from the reddest parts of the country vote to kill it. Primary challenges are not easy, and voters don't really care about any particular piece of legislation anyway.

This is aside from the issue we have with various factions of the GOP despising their own voters and actively working against them. For example, the VA-GOP shuts down local party branches if they become too conservative.
 
Elon still poking the bear with the most obvious and correct take. Inaction has beaten down the base and republicans going back to the same playbook won't make the evil white men get out to vote. Trump isn't on the ticket and his voters won't vote unless they have a reason greater than "they will take your guns". See the disaster in Wisconsin. The RNC did nothing and even Elon stepping in and bank rolling it did nothing. If you have Elon out there funding primary challengers and spoil candidates they are mega screwed.
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Do you seriously think all this was going to happen with margins that small in the House? Republicans in swing districts aren't voting for it, Democrats obviously aren't going to vote for it, what the fuck do you expect? At some point you've got to realize that's how politics works. You don't get everything, but the doomposters on X and you go full retard and forget the most basic information on why bills aren't getting passed.

>But muh first Trump term

Trump had more wiggle room in the House to pass more bills. Do you think that Healthcare replacement would've gotten as far with this administration? Fuck no, it would've died in the House.

The motivation of the midterms is to say, "Hey, we got some stuff done, if you want more stuff done I need more people that'll support my agenda." But no, instead it's all doomposting about GOP losing the House and Senate because they didn't get what they wanted in 5 months. At some point, critical thinking must set in for you, unless you're a troll like Fatpacks or John Badman.
 
Compared to high speed rail a completely proven technology that works so well the Chinese rarely have crashes with their hilarious safety standards.
China has had plenty of deadly rail crashes, they just are able to cover most of them up.

They have over a trillion dollars in debt from the system, with most lines not making enough money to pay operating costs, let alone their debt. Outside of the Lunar New Year, they are empty.

A lot of lines are also slow due to poor quality construction limiting max speed.

Their passenger rail system also came at the expense of freight rail and China uses armies of trucks to move bulk goods like coal, which is incredibly dumb.

The only reason why they even have a HSR system is because the PLAAF reserved nearly all of their airspace for military use, which means that they have far too few airports for their population.
Elon had a substantial hand in it. He sold a bunch of bullshit to the retards in California and funding ear marked for the project went to his retarded hyperloop which offers very few tangible benefits for a technology that has tons of issues and was such a fuckup and failure he abandoned it completely.
No he didn’t. The only source for that is a book quoting “anonymous sources” and California has spent orders of magnitude more money on their traditional rail system than Musk ever got to research the hyperloop.
 
Their passenger rail system also came at the expense of freight rail and China uses armies of trucks to move bulk goods like coal, which is incredibly dumb.

At the end of the day, passenger rail is just not a good use of any given rail line compared to freight. Airplanes are better and cheaper for transporting people.
 
China has had plenty of deadly rail crashes, they just are able to cover most of them up.

They have over a trillion dollars in debt from the system, with most lines not making enough money to pay operating costs, let alone their debt. Outside of the Lunar New Year, they are empty.

A lot of lines are also slow due to poor quality construction limiting max speed.

Their passenger rail system also came at the expense of freight rail and China uses armies of trucks to move bulk goods like coal, which is incredibly dumb.

The only reason why they even have a HSR system is because the PLAAF reserved nearly all of their airspace for military use, which means that they have far too few airports for their population.

No he didn’t. The only source for that is a book quoting “anonymous sources” and California has spent orders of magnitude more money on their traditional rail system than Musk ever got to research the hyperloop.
I don't know if you are disingenuous or just not intelligent enough to understand my hyperbole about even China getting it right as far as high speed rail being a proven technology. If you want to try to tell me how I was wrong on that nothing you posted was even relevant.

If you want to try to explain how high speed rail isn't a proven technology then feel free to do that.

As for the hyperloop thing there is a New York Times best seller where Elon's biographer (not anonymous at all) quoted Elon as trying to sabotage high speed rail.

You're misinformed or spreading misinformation.
 
Elon had a substantial hand in it. He sold a bunch of bullshit to the retards in California and funding ear marked for the project went to his retarded hyperloop which offers very few tangible benefits for a technology that has tons of issues and was such a fuckup and failure he abandoned it completely.

Compared to high speed rail a completely proven technology that works so well the Chinese rarely have crashes with their hilarious safety standards.
elon fooling around with experimental meme technology is based though. trying shit out because you think the idea sounds cool is how new inventions are made, and you're not gonna hit that big successful idea if you're not willing to accept a dozen 'but it sounded cool on paper' failures on the way there.

if cali nigger dems want to throw a gorillion tax dollars at experimental meme tech, that's their responsibility, and i'm not gonna blame the muskrat for taking advantage of their retardation.
 
I guess all of Europe and Asia are very special use cases. Tell me you've never been anywhere in your life lmao.
Europe, where despite rail getting massive subsidies everyone takes RyanAir instead because it's still a fraction of the price and time?

France banned domestic flights because the TGV couldn't compete with them in a free market.
 
I guess all of Europe and Asia are very special use cases. Tell me you've never been anywhere in your life lmao.

Rail is heavily subsidized in Europe because it's not economical. Been an absolute disaster in Spain. Also "Asia," lmao, good luck finding a high speed rail line from Kazakhstan to Myanmar.
 
I guess all of Europe and Asia are very special use cases. Tell me you've never been anywhere in your life lmao.
Rail is heavily subsidized in Europe
Thanks, I was about to say.

That is one the basic realities of Europe's transportation.
With the inverse being regulations discouraging individual transportation,
 
Rail is heavily subsidized in Europe because it's not economical. Been an absolute disaster in Spain. Also "Asia," lmao, good luck finding a high speed rail line from Kazakhstan to Myanmar.
As someone who's spent a decade between Europe and Japan high speed rail is extremely convienient and I miss it to be honest. I think this is falling outside the scope of Politics at this point though.

Agree to disagree.
 
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