Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

    Votes: 67 14.5%
  • Next Month

    Votes: 56 12.1%
  • This Year

    Votes: 73 15.8%
  • Next Year

    Votes: 155 33.5%
  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

    Votes: 112 24.2%

  • Total voters
    463
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Hardin has had it with these motherfuckin plights on this motherfuckin docket.
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I think RG focuses on the hac in pro hac and has the erroneous belief the word equates to the slang definition of hack meaning mediocre
I agree. I'm pretty sure Russ doesn't understand Latin is a language in its own right, never mind the root of multiple later languages. I believe he thinks it's just some legalese magic words.

The absolute arrogance in his last filing is unbelievable, his ignorance about the world at large inestimable. I hope the Clerk does now have him on the shitlist. Clerks and Judges talk every day. I don't know if the Clerk is the hero we want but he may be the hero we need.
 
I'm honestly amazed we have gotten to this point after a month and we have seen neither judge do literally anything with regard to this case. The judge took matters "under advisement" and he still hasn't said jack shit about it. The inaction by either judge on just about anything in an entire month has cost Null I can't imagine how much money. There are so many potentially case ending issues at hand and absolutely nothing has been done by them. It really blows my mind. You think they'd want to put this case down like ol' yeller as soon as they possibly can to save the defense from having to deal with all this shit and cost Null such a stupid amount of money.
 
It seems that Hardman has determined the "iron is hot" or perhaps he can now see the whites of Greer's slack jawed teeth. Josh's philosophy that court cases are "determined by emotion" would suggest that now, with Greer seemingly spitting in the Clerk/Court's face, is the time to make accusations and demand satisfaction.

Surely the judges will act and end the madness. Surely. I am sure. Any day now. :)
 
It seems that Hardman has determined the "iron is hot" or perhaps he can now see the whites of Greer's slack jawed teeth. Josh's philosophy that court cases are "determined by emotion" would suggest that now, with Greer seemingly spitting in the Clerk/Court's face, is the time to make accusations and demand satisfaction.

Surely the judges will act and end the madness. Surely. I am sure. Any day now. :)
there will be sanctions and motions for bonds or stays or reconsiderations on those sanctions. I would be surprised if this gets dismissed before a bench trial.
 
Ha ha ha. Oh wait you're serious, let me laugh even harder.

Anyhoo, it is once again Friday, with only three hours remaining at the Utah courthouse before close of bidness. Once again, the judge's "wait and see" approach has resulted in yet more docket fuckery. Past being prologue, it seems likely that we'll be blueballed again this weekend.

At least Monday is the day the sanction is due. Will Greer pay, or will he try some new arcane ritual we haven't thought of to try and get out of it again?
I think the tard-guarding is done. Now, it's 'how much do we charge?'

It would also be awesome if they removed Russ's email abilities until they tallied it up, so every other plight he has to explain has to be printed out, enveloped and costs stamps.
 
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The Judiciary REALLY has two jobs based off of who they're dealing with. If it's "The Government" their job is "interpret" Law in a way most favorable to the Government. Only when the SC steps in and says "We LITERALLY can't find a way to give the Government deference here. Like.. There's literally a line in the Constitution that expressesly forbids this in this exact way" do they limit Governmental power.
Tbh this is how it should be, not in the way it has been in this case, but in general. Courts should not be overruling laws passed by Congress lightly. Courts are, by design, anti-democratic and that's how they should be. Judges at the federal level are unelected (although appointed by elected officials) and short of impeachment, unable to be removed, meaning they face no political penalties for unpopular decisions, and most cases, like First Amendment cases for instance, involve overruling punishments for incredibly unpopular people.

And to give the federal judiciary credit, in the other nut suits filed in federal court against this site, like Melinda's, they were summarily thrown out under the IFP statute because the court did its job and prescreened the nutjob's gibberish and threw out the suit on its own motion and then declared Melinda a vexatious litigant.

In this case we have had half a decade of fucking dithering and bullshit from the laziest idiots in robes I've ever seen.
 
I'm honestly amazed we have gotten to this point after a month and we have seen neither judge do literally anything with regard to this case. The judge took matters "under advisement" and he still hasn't said jack shit about it. The inaction by either judge on just about anything in an entire month has cost Null I can't imagine how much money. There are so many potentially case ending issues at hand and absolutely nothing has been done by them. It really blows my mind. You think they'd want to put this case down like ol' yeller as soon as they possibly can to save the defense from having to deal with all this shit and cost Null such a stupid amount of money
I said a few weeks ago the judge is going to let the circus play until the 10th. Why make decisions now when he knows the nuke drops next week.
 
I said a few weeks ago the judge is going to let the circus play until the 10th. Why make decisions now when he knows the nuke drops next week.
I was going to say 'THIS ISN'T GOING TO THE 10TH!'
But then I realized you meant 10th of June and not 10th circuit. Don't be ambiguous. Some of us are retards, like Russ!
 
I'm honestly amazed we have gotten to this point after a month and we have seen neither judge do literally anything with regard to this case. The judge took matters "under advisement" and he still hasn't said jack shit about it. The inaction by either judge
I don't think the judge or magistrate are reading any of these filings (unless and until they absolutely have to) and I don't think they care. Though I am hopeful they might briefly scan the more recent filings before ruling on the motion for dismissal.

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Today's ECF 332 from Hardin is excellent minus the DLC footnote. You can tell his frustration ("February, March, April, May") with how this has dragged on seemingly forever, with Greee never really held accountable for lying and breaking the rules.

It sure feels like things are coming to an inflection point, where these judges are going to be forced to make a decision, one way or another, whether they want to deal with this case or not.
 
Is there such a similar motion/application in the US for Security for Costs? Or is the Sanctions aspect sort of in lieu of that?
Yes, vexatious litigants sometimes have an order put on them that they have to put up a bond before they can file a lawsuit, often against a particular defendant and not the entire world. I don't think there's anything like this at the federal level (or I have not seen it) but it has happened at the state court level from time to time.
 
Greer is coming in hot with the inducing-stroke legal strategy.
It will be predictable with the following arguments:
1. Greer is pro se and not a lawyer. Lawyers may not need clarification, but pro se litigants need lots of clarification
2. Greer is using the common meaning of clarification, not the high-falutin' lawyer language definition
3. Hardin is a big meanie who should be sanctioned for calling Greer a liar. And also sanctioned for bringing up his right to prostitution in an unrelated matter.
4. The court needs to order Null to disclose every user on Kiwi Farms to Greer and allow Greer to add everyone to the lawsuit.
5. Greer prays the court order Hardin to post 10% of a $10,000 fine proposed by Greer.
 
Greer has given me great insights into my local legal system.. which aren't great. Honestly the mismanagement in this case should be studied. There should be laws written in Utah in how to deal with litigants like Greer to stop this niggery from even happening. I don't know how you'd do it, but they should exist. A case like this shouldn't be on year 5 and counting.
 
Yes, vexatious litigants sometimes have an order put on them that they have to put up a bond before they can file a lawsuit, often against a particular defendant and not the entire world. I don't think there's anything like this at the federal level (or I have not seen it) but it has happened at the state court level from time to time.

You'll frequently see notes like this in SCOTUS order lists:
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