UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

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It destigmatizes the use of violence
Violence against everyone, not just the few. Those who have any reason to shoot up a school or a church will continue to do so because they are psychopaths.

90% of soviet victims were random schmucks, not the elite. When pretense is dropped, psychopaths don't need a good reason to come after regular folk and anyone else they don't like.

Growing up in the former eastern bloc and hearing stories about revolutionaries eating their own makes me really distrustful of anyone who thinks violent insurrection will change anything besides which group of tyrants gets to fuck you over.
 
Huge case update - the NY state prosecution have responded to Karen's omnibus motion filed in early May that I posted here. In this motion the prosecution asks that Judge Gregory Carro (who will be adjudicating this matter in July according to this motion) deny Karen's relief requests and sets out to debunk her claims in their entirety. In addition to this Joel Seidemann (the prosecutor) has released the contents of Luigi's "to the feds" notes and his journal entries for the first time. I will attach the motion below and do my best to summarise, but I recommend everyone give it a read, as it gives good insight into both the case and the Grand Jury indictment that haven't been referenced before.

Seidemann begins by stating that the prosecution intend to argue against the defense's account of Luigi's arrest and the subsequent evidence suppression motions filed, and have consented to a Huntley hearing on the statement suppression aspect and a Mapp hearing on the evidence suppression aspect.

He then moves onto the defense's request to suppress non-eyewitness testimony. He cites case law that such testimony can only be suppressed in the event of a change in appearance of the defendant, and that that particular matter won't be adjudicated until the beginning of trial.

In the next section of the motion he moves onto the procedural background of the crime. Seidemann reveals that Luigi walked past Brian Thompson the day before the murder whilst talking on the phone, and outlines the evidence against Luigi from New York. Ballistic examination of the bullets match them to the gun found in Luigi's backpack, and his DNA matches what was found on the discarded Motarola phone, bag and food wrappings. He also refers to the extensive surveillance footage around New York used to find the hostel where Luigi stayed plus his entry point at a New York bus terminal.

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Seidemann then moves onto the terrorism portion of the motion, and it's also the densest part of the document with the most references to case law. Seidemann first provides the definition of terrorism and argues that Luigi's actions fit the definition due to his target, the location of the murder, the bullet inscriptions and his own writings. In NY law in order for a murder to be defined as terrorism it only needs to meet one of the following criteria; 1) intimidates/coerces a civilian population 2) intends to change government policy through violence and coercion and 3) intends to coerce/intimidate a unit of government. Instead of summarising Seidemann's argument I'll provide the screenshots in which he outlines it and leave you guys judge whether his arguments hold any merit.

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The next section of the prosecution's motion is concerned with the defense's claims of possible double jeopardy concerns with the state and federal cases. Seidemann argues that KFA is attempting to delay the state trial to Luigi's benefit (a delayed trial is often beneficial to the defense due to degraded eyewitness testimony, for example), and that the federal trial will take years to actually start due to the charges being death eligible. Seidemann notes that the state prosecution is well ahead of the federal prosecution in terms of readiness. In the defense motion Luigi indicates an intention to testify, and Seidemann uses the defense's own arguments in their motion to refute some of their claims concerning double jeopardy in reference to this.

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You've probably noticed the oftentimes caustic tone of the motion, and in the final section I sense some personal animus towards KFA. Seidemann absolutely does not agree with her strategy of playing to the media (which he argued previously undermines her claims that Luigi can't be a terrorist if the media sensationalised the crime) and overtly tells Luigi to get another attorney, lol.

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Last but not least Seidemann requests that if KFA intends to introduce psychiatric evidence she must turn that documentation over the prosecution. If she doesn't intend to she must write a filing making that clear.

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The final part of the motion is dedicated to the exhbits. Here is Luigi's confession letter as it appears in the motion: it's formatted weirdly, and the upside down part on top is actually subsequent to the correctly formatted text.

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Below are Luigi's journal entries where he discusses Uncle Ted and how to communicate his message to "normies". These were formatted horizontally in the motion which I have corrected in the screenshots. He mentions "feeling foggy" in the initial entry. The journals are certainly very interesting and beg the question as to his mental state - besides his obvious egotism we've discussed previously he seems fully aware of his actions and the potential fallout, and seems motivated by a sense of personal power and hero fantasies as opposed to caring about health insurance in particular. As a side note I believe the KMD acronym in the first entry refers to "Kill, Maim and Destroy" from 4chan, but I could be wrong.

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Seidemann provided an excerpt of his own Grand Jury testimony concerning the terrorism charges.

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Other relevant exhibits include warrants issued for Luigi's arrest and a list of the NY state charges.

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The Reddit reaction was as expected. Some stans finally accepted that their fantasy boyfriend murdered Brian Thompson while others are steadfast in their "he's innocent and framed!!!!" delusion. Others expressed censorious tendencies by demanding others take down any references to Luigi's journal being shared online. According to lolcow the Twitter reaction to this motion is even more insane.

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One particularly illiterate Redditor with no understanding of the US legal system (which I assume they live under) fails to realise that not only did Seidemann address the claimed Miranda violation in the opening page of his motion but that pre-trial hearings are needed to adjudicate the matter (as is standard procedure), and that just because KFA claims the arrest was illegal doesn't mean the judge will agree.

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Lolcow farm nonas generally turned against Luigi in the wake of the leaked Whatsapp messages where Luigi drooled over porn cards and bragged about memeing a Yakuza pimp, and are generally far more open to discussing Luigi's character. They also don't deny that he did the crime. However as I reported previously the admins of lolcow are not a fan of the threads due to the influx of non-lowcow users posting in them (usually deranged hybristophiliac sexual fantasies and arguing with users), but also ban users for "a-logging". Some reactions to the motion and Luigi himself are as follows (just to be clear many of these screenshots are weeks/months old and include reactions to the roach letters, Whatsapp texts, letters, etc.)

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Finally, I found this rather poignant photo of Luigi from December/January a few weeks ago. Maybe in this moment his fate dawned on him.

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1) intimidates/coerces a civilian population 2) intends to change government policy through violence and coercion and 3) intends to coerce/intimidate a unit of government.
I would like it if point 1 applied to government officials and not just private individuals. Or to pornographers.
Luigi indicates an intention to testify
this is such a bad idea
 
He's still gonna have plenty of stans of course but looks like they'll be properly cast out as the lepers they are now, thank god.
Below are Luigi's journal entries where he discusses Uncle Ted and how to communicate his message to "normies".
Yep, that's a terrorism alright, dude is extra fucked for that one.
You can love and appreciate Elder Theodore and his takes on the steam engine all you want but seeking to further his "methods" is utter :lunacy: enough so I'm gonna predict an insanity defence at some point.
 
Below are Luigi's journal entries where he discusses Uncle Ted and how to communicate his message to "normies". These were formatted horizontally in the motion which I have corrected in the screenshots. He mentions "feeling foggy" in the initial entry. The journals are certainly very interesting and beg the question as to his mental state - besides his obvious egotism we've discussed previously he seems fully aware of his actions and the potential fallout, and seems motivated by a sense of personal power and hero fantasies as opposed to caring about health insurance in particular. As a side note I believe the KMD acronym in the first entry refers to "Kill, Maim and Destroy" from 4chan, but I could be wrong.
I knew this guy was a faggot. He wants to be a little martyr for the reddit updoots. Bitch you ain't uncle Ted. You weren't MK ULTRA'd, you wrote no masterpiece manifesto, you got caught after 3 days not 30 years. What a load of tripe
 
Comprehensive article on Blackrock suing United Healthcare: https://archive.is/q6NFv

Interesting article on Luigi's terrorism charges (was written before the prosecution's motion, so it's possible that not all points are valid): https://archive.is/qoRSy

An Italian criminal called Michael Daddea is claiming to have met Luigi during his time in MDC earlier this year.




Michael was imprisoned on ghost gun charges. He is currently interacting with Luigi Xitter stans. If what he says is true it seems Luigi has discovered Catholicism in prison (or at least reverted to his family's cultural religious practices - from what I've read the Mangione's are devout Catholics and often donate money to Catholic causes).

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Cue the hybristophiliac digital fellatio.

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Redditors are sending Luigi cockroach art.

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Luigi Xitter stans have started a new donation campaign to his GiveSendGo called #TrediciforLuigi, and there was a spike in donations following Seidemann's motion.

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Lolcow farm nonas are writing Luigi hate mail.

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The Reddit reaction was as expected. Some stans finally accepted that their fantasy boyfriend murdered Brian Thompson while others are steadfast in their "he's innocent and framed!!!!" delusion. Others expressed censorious tendencies by demanding others take down any references to Luigi's journal being shared online. According to lolcow the Twitter reaction to this motion is even more insane.
True and Honest stans know he did it, but support it, because they want to see piles of dead CEOs. Example:
In April 2025, following the killing of health insurance CEO Brian Thompson, during a CNN interview Lorenz described the lead suspect in the case Luigi Mangione as "morally good". Lorenz stated: "To see these millionaire media pundits on TV clutching their pearls about someone stanning a murderer when this is the United States of America, as if we don't lionize criminals [and] stan murderers of all sorts, and we can give them Netflix shows".
Crack open a Ted K document and join the club.
 
I do not really understand lolcow farms obsessive need to call him a "disgusting moid" or "he needed to look up big words to impress his moid daddies"/He's a freaking misogynist when he is simply a flat out impulsive liar, histrionic and a total narcissist (probably gooned a bit too hard). You can find this in a lot of people from his sect of society, he just had the bright idea one day to try and cement himself in history whatever way he can.

Below are Luigi's journal entries where he discusses Uncle Ted and how to communicate his message to "normies". These were formatted horizontally in the motion which I have corrected in the screenshots. He mentions "feeling foggy" in the initial entry. The journals are certainly very interesting and beg the question as to his mental state - besides his obvious egotism we've discussed previously he seems fully aware of his actions and the potential fallout, and seems motivated by a sense of personal power and hero fantasies as opposed to caring about health insurance in particular. As a side note I believe the KMD acronym in the first entry refers to "Kill, Maim and Destroy" from 4chan, but I could be wrong.
His handwriting is almost unreadable holy shit. Might just be the scan but this also absolutely puts him away, even if his arrest is "illegal" or anything else he can bring up, having physical evidence like this is not easy to get away from.

Lolcow farm nonas are writing Luigi hate mail.
He is probably getting off to this all the same. I am amazed people are even still giving him money with how short the attention spans of most people are. Either way, he is likely never going to see the light of day again for trying to get his infamy. He never wanted to change the system, he just wanted attention.
 
I do not really understand lolcow farms obsessive need to call him a "disgusting moid" or "he needed to look up big words to impress his moid daddies"/He's a freaking misogynist when he is simply a flat out impulsive liar, histrionic and a total narcissist (probably gooned a bit too hard). You can find this in a lot of people from his sect of society, he just had the bright idea one day to try and cement himself in history whatever way he can.

I've documented some of Luigi's misogyny a few pages back. A lot of it was from his twitter that he deleted, but essentially he agreed with a tweet calling women are the Achilles heel of evolution and tried to buy 400 copies of Hit Reverse by Jash Dholani where a woman-hating pajeet rants about women being useless to civilisation. He also had another tweet about women needing to protect men's hearts, which I find pretty ironic given his previous sentiments.

They're also upset about his letter replies where he speaks to his BPD fanbase like they're children when he clearly attempted to sound intelligent when talking to men, plus the possible sex tourism in Asia exposed in his Whatsapp text messages (this is uncomfirmed however as it's still possible Luigi is impotent as his former landlord claimed, but Luigi's hypocritical stance on porn shows him to be a gooner at the very least).

Edit: I also just remembered that lolcow uncovered a few months back that on Instagram Luigi was following a lot of IG thots, all of whom were South East Asian. Unfortunately his Instagram follows were completely nuked alongside his account and I haven't been able to find any archives besides posters on Rednote/lolcow pointing towards accounts he was following, but with his IG gone I have no proof of this.
 
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"the male ego is extremely fragile"
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bitch you're devastated that a murderer is going to get executed

I scrolled to the bottom of this person's post history and ctrl+F "reply", there were more than 1000 matches, in 5 months. that's an average of 6 posts a day.
This person's entire online footprint is nothing but posting about fucking luigi mangione on reddit.

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Cope.
 
Okay honestly this kinda proves to me that "attractive privilege", as much as I hate to use that term, is kinda real.

If he was ugly or even average, everyone - even people on Reddit - would've been making fun of the thirsty women masturbating over him like people do with the weirdos that like the Columbine guys.

I'm done hearing about him, just in general though. He's always been a terrorist.

Luigi's hypocritical stance on porn shows him to be a gooner at the very least).
He's a zoomer male, of course he's addicted to porn and hates women.

EDIT: Also, this is an aside, but I always thought the excuse of him not being able to have sex bc of his back pain is why he did that is so weird? If he wasn't hot, he'd just be called an incel for that.
 
Can someone in this thread spoon-feed me and all the other Community Happenings tourists please?

We have zero investment in this case, and have no interest in reading multiple novella sized posts, but are nevertheless curious.
Luigi killed a rich and powerful person as a means to spread a message however because rich and powerful people have friends he will likely die before he sees his message take hold of people (it won't though)
 
Okay honestly this kinda proves to me that "attractive privilege", as much as I hate to use that term, is kinda real.

If he was ugly or even average, everyone - even people on Reddit - would've been making fun of the thirsty women masturbating over him like people do with the weirdos that like the Columbine guys.

I'm done hearing about him, just in general though. He's always been a terrorist.
When you compare Luigi to Elias Rodriguez (the man who shot those two Israeli Zionists, IIRC one was an ambassador) the difference is night and day. I'm not trying to start any Israel-Palestine sperging, but Elias's manifesto was heartfelt, well-written and clearly had principle and thought behind it. Luigi chose to kill Brian Thompson out of an egotistical desire to be famous and even admitted that he isn't all that passionate about healthcare (not surprising for the privileged son of multimillionaires), but Brian just happened to "tick all the boxes". I 100% believe Luigi chose Brian with jury nullification in mind. Rodriguez is a normal looking Hispanic man of no interest to hybristophiles and with Trump's "Israel first" policies will likely be screwed every which way legally.

Luigi being a very handsome, privileged, athletic and once socially successful young man is perfect hybristophile fantasy feul; I've documented before that many of his fans including his fund organiser are middle-aged OnlyFans whores. None of those women would have access to a man of Luigi's level in their normie lives (they certainly don't exist amongst their customer base), and him being in prison corresponding to his fans gives them a sense of control over a man who wouldn't have looked twice at them in real life. Hence the constant infighting in the Luigisphere and the constant attempts to stifle case discussion.
 
I am really confused that redditors thought he was innocent? He did kill that CEO, that is the entire reason he is based. It perfectly fits with the redditor view of kill the rich, but for some reason they don't like it? Why? Because it got too real?

Redditors really are subhuman. Luigi is kinda fucked, but that was a forgone conclusion.
 
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