Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

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i’ve been doing okay recently but then my brother dropped a huge thing on me. we were chatting because i’m planning a trip home soon and he says he wants to get the rotpocket surgery. i was horrified. he hasn’t gotten any surgery before, this is the only one he seems to want which is so weird. i guess it’s part of the agp or something. this was really upsetting and i made an excuse to hang up pretty soon after. my only hope is that the surgeon he wants to go to would be out of pocket and very expensive. i’m hoping there is no public option for this but i’ve been anxious about even looking into it.

he doesn’t pay rent but he’s also terrible with saving money so i figure there’s a fairly low chance at him actually being able to pay for any major surgery, and he already has loans he’s paying back so taking out more loans would be stupid but not impossible. i don’t think any of his friends have enough money to loan him any.
He doesn’t pay rent… does he still live at home with the parents? A pooner recently had her surgery canceled because she wasn’t in a supportive enough environment (I think her mom called the surgeon and said she didn’t support her choice.) So there went the ride home from the hospital and the physical and financial support she’d need while recovering from major surgery. I think we’re on the cusp of these surgeries not being covered in most states (sorry if you live elsewhere.) Maybe you could stall him?
 
i’ve been doing okay recently but then my brother dropped a huge thing on me. we were chatting because i’m planning a trip home soon and he says he wants to get the rotpocket surgery. i was horrified. he hasn’t gotten any surgery before, this is the only one he seems to want which is so weird.
Some of them are jealous of the fact that having a vagina makes access to sex very easy, completely ignoring the fact that most real women aren't promiscuous whores and are creeped out by constant sexual advances by men. There's a reason the incel-to-troon pipeline exists. But troons are idiots because one second of research will tell them their neovaginas sometimes lack all sensation and Estrogen commonly significantly reduces male sex drive.
 
He doesn’t pay rent… does he still live at home with the parents?
yes, he lives with my parents well past the age of normalcy and neither of them know he’s been secretly trooning out. the surgeon he wants to see is in another country because the surgeons here are bad apparently… as if there is any surgeon who can do a good job at making a rot pocket.
 
i’ve been doing okay recently but then my brother dropped a huge thing on me. we were chatting because i’m planning a trip home soon and he says he wants to get the rotpocket surgery. i was horrified. he hasn’t gotten any surgery before, this is the only one he seems to want which is so weird. i guess it’s part of the agp or something. this was really upsetting and i made an excuse to hang up pretty soon after. my only hope is that the surgeon he wants to go to would be out of pocket and very expensive. i’m hoping there is no public option for this but i’ve been anxious about even looking into it.

he doesn’t pay rent but he’s also terrible with saving money so i figure there’s a fairly low chance at him actually being able to pay for any major surgery, and he already has loans he’s paying back so taking out more loans would be stupid but not impossible. i don’t think any of his friends have enough money to loan him any.
I believe a number of states, and other countries cover that under whatever their version cheap care Medicare/public option/etc. though in some placesit takes years to get to the point where they're scheduled.
yes, he lives with my parents well past the age of normalcy and neither of them know he’s been secretly trooning out. the surgeon he wants to see is in another country because the surgeons here are bad apparently… as if there is any surgeon who can do a good job at making a rot pocket.
Go to the surgery thread and spam him with pictures. There was a recent one of total graft fail, which ended up looking like a black tunnel of death (once all of the rotting was cleaned out).
 
I keep thinking I recognize my brother in the threads dedicated to posting random online trannies (sideshows, Ls, etc), but it's never him. I've realized it's because his personality has been completely subsumed.

They are all atheist Satanists named after goddesses. They are all communist. They are all obsessed with the same media. They are all druggie bums. They are all undercover pedophiles. They are all Discord addicts. They are all pansexual. They all hate women and their fathers. They are all ex-Christians. They all have the same opinions, type the same way, listen to the same music, and buy the same products.

He's gone. Whoever he once was might as well have died. I can't even hate him properly, because I can't think of him as an individual anymore. He's just another shifting face of the many-headed monster.
 
I keep thinking I recognize my brother in the threads dedicated to posting random online trannies (sideshows, Ls, etc), but it's never him. I've realized it's because his personality has been completely subsumed.

They are all atheist Satanists named after goddesses. They are all communist. They are all obsessed with the same media. They are all druggie bums. They are all undercover pedophiles. They are all Discord addicts. They are all pansexual. They all hate women and their fathers. They are all ex-Christians. They all have the same opinions, type the same way, listen to the same music, and buy the same products.

He's gone. Whoever he once was might as well have died. I can't even hate him properly, because I can't think of him as an individual anymore. He's just another shifting face of the many-headed monster.
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It’s glorified self-destruction really.
 

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yes, he lives with my parents well past the age of normalcy and neither of them know he’s been secretly trooning out. the surgeon he wants to see is in another country because the surgeons here are bad apparently… as if there is any surgeon who can do a good job at making a rot pocket.
I think a few years ago I would’ve tried to be nice if one of my younger brothers trooned out, now I think I’d go nuclear and get to my parents first, show them surgery pics, post-op suicide rates, autistic and mental illness comorbidity rates, info about autogynephilia, the works. I also think I’d use the cringiest 4tranner language ever when talking to my brother to make it seem as unappealing as possible. I think some people get a rush logging online and talking to their in-group with their insider jargon. I’d be telling my brother IRL that he’s a Blanchardian AGP brickhon and he’s ngmi.

DISCLAIMER: I wouldn’t do this if you think there’s a legitimate chance of him offing himself. It also depends on your relationship with your parents and their relationship with him. Do they tend to respect your opinion or are they harder on you than they are on him? If he can do no wrong in their eyes, this is off the table. The best option in that case would be complete indifference.
 
My childhood bestfriend pooned out and she actively posts her face on the r/transpassing subreddit and I’m waiting for the day she gets posted on the pooner thread for it, for some reason it hasn’t happened yet.

since being on T she now claims to be a gay man and she talks/posts about her addiction to yaoi when she had previously claimed to have hated that shit (the fujo to pooner pipeline is REAL though, I’m guessing she’s always been a fujo in secret and is just open to telling me about it now).

Worst of all, she’s literally 5’2. Her dad is also bald with very weak facial hair. She’s going to be a bald 5’2 “”man”” with little facial hair and frog voice. Sometimes pooners pass but she isn’t ever going to be one of them. Her stereotypical lib ass family is supportive of it as well.

And this isn’t even getting into the huge shit show that is my older brother trooning out and then thankfully detransitioning. (However I’m worried he’ll start again) I’m surrounded by the most retarded of autism please send help
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I think some people get a rush logging online and talking to their in-group with their insider jargon. I’d be telling my brother IRL that he’s a Blanchardian AGP brickhon and he’s ngmi.
this is so funny, the closest i have done is subtly referenced my own height as freakishly tall for a woman, though i am much shorter than him. also the one time he tried to ask me where i bought a dress from, i said the shop and sent him the measurement guide because i knew nothing would fit him because they’re made for actual women and have no stretch to them.

It also depends on your relationship with your parents and their relationship with him. Do they tend to respect your opinion or are they harder on you than they are on him?
i would say my parents trust my judgement and opinions far more than my brother’s, as i have always been more stable, but my mother will often tell me to be less hard on my brother because he’s struggling. i think that is a load of crap, personally!
 
I notice one friend of mine who trooned out, while his original friend group of normal guys have dwindled away to nothing (I and some other friends of mine haven't really hanged out with the guy in real life since prior to covid before he trooned out), his friend group is growing, seemingly every single one are troons or poons too.

I think he's too far gone I'm afraid. I only keep him around online as he's probably going to turn into an even bigger cow than he currently is. A photo of them is wearing a pacifier. Fucking disgusting. You'd think one of the highest achievers at college would be better than associating with those freaks? A big fall from grace.
 
ok so the troon I just found out trooned out, got some more details. As near as I can tell, the issue is Autogynephilia. Kid NEVER was anything BUT masculine growing up. Played with toy trucks etc, never wanted to play with dolls. Never wanted to wear dresses. Never claimed to be a girl. This all came about somehow about a year ago. Kid dates women, has a girlfriend so his mom is like "So now you're a lesbian?" and kid is like "yes" (kid's almost 18 ) . However, kid has no interest in surgery/hormones. Just, dressing as a woman and thus scoring points as a "trans + lesbian". Fortunately they are not going for a genderspecial name nor are they going to go deadname their name as it is a fairly unisex name. Also they actually trooned out a whole ass year ago, but the ex and stepmom hid it from the mom. The dad, a hardcore narcissist who married his affair-partner (stepmom), is using this to make himself look tolerant and like the best person evar.
 
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my mother will often tell me to be less hard on my brother because he’s struggling.
You can weaponize this!
Show her the suicide rates post transitioning. The rate of depression and the negative outcomes, even 'transphobia'.
Then talk about how concerned you are that he might 41% if he goes too far down the transitioning path.
This way you can get ahead of any suicide threats along the lines of 'dead Son vs live Daughter' and explain how actually the choice is between a son who says he wants to kill himself vs a trans-daughter who actually does kill 'herself'.
 
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I was feeling nostalgic so I decided to revisit my (past) friends on their social media.

>Pfp has the green-blue gay flag

Uh oh

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She pooned out. It's a shame, she was the one who got me into working out back then. Also she ballooned out and must've gained over 10 kg in the past two years.

Almost all my friends who were artists pooned out. It's devastating.
 
Thing is that when i met her she was openly a pre everything pooner, at most she just cuts her hair short. Her social media had the trans flag and "he/him" in bio.
What intrigues me is that she suddenly removed that from her profile, seems less strict with the pronoun usage, so that got me thinking if she is perhaps unpooning?
Gotta give a quite positive update, she did in fact desist.

Again, I don't talk to her often, but I saw her and a friend group today and I was surprised.
She explicitly asked to be referred to as a woman again and use she/her pronouns.
She expressed that she got tired of pretending to be a man (yes with that exact wording).

I guess hope is a real thing.

Don't loose hope kiwis, I know this thread is sad, and in many cases is too late.
I've seen the worst outcome myself, and it always make me sad to see female misfit friends poon out and live in pain.
But theres always the chance things change for the better.

Don't give up with your loved ones
 
I took a cat to the vet a few days ago, and there was a big "Celebrate Purr-ide!" display in the lobby.

Multiple techs and front office staff wear pronoun pins or jewelry; there's several They/Thems and at least one each of She/They He/They, and Xi/Xir (the first time I've seen that one used IRL).

One of the vet techs, who has been there for years, has a newly-froggy voice, the first traces of a beard, and flaming acne. She's still using her female name and wearing a They/Them pendant, but I expect that to change by the next time I go in. Typical pooner, she's 5'2" and chubby, with very narrow shoulders tiny hands, and very wide hips.

At the front desk now is a very tall troon, who is actually good at the job and pleasant to interact with, and I hope he sticks around. It's a fleeting and superficial enough level of interaction that I never have to affirm the delusion that he's female, so I can just be nice and not make it an issue. And while I'm 99% certain he named himself after a children's movie character, the name he picked is unisex or even masculine in its original language, which sort of takes the edge off. [/cope]

Another of the techs has a teenaged pooner daughter. Again, she's been there a very long time, and we've chatted enough over the years for me to know that she has always felt ambivalent about being a mom, and if she had to do it over again, she wouldn't (I think she's mistaken me for a r/childfree-tier retard, since I'm a childless cat lady). I'm just sad as hell for her kid, because you can't tell me the kid never picked up on that, and I wonder how much of a role it played in her pooning out, because now her mom is a proud and brave Mother of a Trans Child.

On the practice's website are photos of the staff, including a group photo of all the techs, with their names and pronouns listed. It's been that way for about three years now, with the photo changing as staff come and go. The one tech who never had pronouns after her name is now gone.

On top of that, none of the vets (all female; the only man on staff is the troon in a busy practice with six vets) have pooned out, and they don't wear pronoun jewelry, but my favorite vet was broken by the Covid era, and is still masking after all this time. What makes it worse is that she wears surgical masks, which everybody, even the Covid-aware crazies, knows are useless. At least the dangerhaired She/They tech who still masks is consistent enough to wear N95s, but a surgical mask? That's somehow even crazier. She's still a good vet, but god damn, lady.

Everybody at the practice seemed pretty normal back in 2019, despite being a bunch of libtards serving a mostly-AWFUL clientele. Nobody had pronouns until 2022. So the acceleration of poonerism and genderwoo among the staff over the last couple of years is pretty fucking wild. I don't want to change vets (and most practices in my area are just as bad, if not worse), but having to consciously avoid saying anything remotely related to gender is fucking tiresome. I really hope this insane social contagion has hit the high-water mark, or is close to it.

Oh, and to top it off, I found my childhood bestie on Insta a few years back, and decided not to engage because I found her adult self insufferable. But I check in occasionally to see how she's doing, and now her only child, a daughter who, is now 17 or 18, is her son, and my long-ago bestie is another proud and brave Mother of a Trans Child.

Seriously, fuck this timeline.
 
Couldn't just be a lesbian and/or a tomboy, had to go straight to being a tranny while looking like a stereotypical butch lesbian from the 90s/00s except with a shitty beard that even teeange boys can outgrow.
I wish I can shake these girls and get it through to them that they can do whatever they want as a female. They can wear male clothes, get into relationship with women, be GNC, etc etc as a female. They don't have to chase the illusion of being male, they don't need anyone's permission to do what they truly want to do as the woman they already are.
 
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