Nintendo Switch 2 - For the Soytendo consoomers to speculate about the successor to the Switch, recently announced for 2025.

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Mario Kart, then Donkey Kong, then Metroid, then possibly a big fall exclusive (Splatoon or AC?) then PZA is a stacked year for Nintendo.
One of these is total theory, two of these are cross-gen (and primarily marketed for the Switch 1), and the only exclusive is from a less important series that generally does not sell systems. All the holiday titles are also cross-gen. I get what you mean in terms of Nintendo as a whole, but this is a pretty bad line-up for the Switch 2 in particular. People are just going to buy the Switch 1 versions instead of dropping 520 plus tax on a new console and one (1) game.
 
"The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition"

Are they actually making the soy boys buy new 80 dollar copy of the game they already own, instead of giving them free update to the game?

They will do and and they will make tons of excuses as to why it's actually a good thing.

It's also a set backwards in image quality because Nintendo is greedy and obviously plans to release a Switch 2 OLED.

Even the cheapest phones come with OLED screens nowadays. There's no excuse for a LCD in 2025.

And the Nintensoys will buy that too despite already having the launch Switch 2 and not waiting for better. And they will also have a million excuses as to why that's a good thing. They vote with their wallets the wrong way. This is why it's not gonna get any better.
 
One of these is total theory, two of these are cross-gen (and primarily marketed for the Switch 1), and the only exclusive is from a less important series that generally does not sell systems. All the holiday titles are also cross-gen. I get what you mean in terms of Nintendo as a whole, but this is a pretty bad line-up for the Switch 2 in particular. People are just going to buy the Switch 1 versions instead of dropping 520 plus tax on a new console and one (1) game.
Is DK supposed to be the less important series? The full price straight port from Wii sold over a million copies this year. Its also a bigger, 3D, game and you would expect it to have a similar effect as Kirby and the Forgotten Land, asssuming its actually good*. Its clearly more important than Splatoon outside of Japan anyways.

*There's been some worry that digging is repetitive and boring, from some of the hands on previews.

Edit: I also think you're being way too dismissive of the crossgen games. We've been doing this game for 20 years now with other companies, we know for a fact that crossgen games sell the new systems. We basically haven't had a current gen until this padt year for PS5 and it has kept pace with PS4 (though partially by poaching Xbox players to replace PS4 stay-behinds.)
 
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Is DK supposed to be the less important series?
Yes, it hasn't been a system seller since the 90s. It also hasn't sold very well at all outside of the Country label (which the Wii port you brought up falls under), and his entire series of games is generally considered to be as tangential to the main Nintendo pillars as Fire Emblem or Xenoblade. Still big properties, sure, but good for padding out filler years and not for selling systems.

I also think you're being way too dismissive of the crossgen games. We've been doing this game for 20 years now with other companies, we know for a fact that crossgen games sell the new systems. We basically haven't had a current gen until this past year for PS5 and it has kept pace with PS4
You pretty much explained my entire reasoning right there. We're in an age where new generations are basically optional, even to the general public, and Nintendo is only just catching up to that. Nintendo is currently shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly and only making things more expensive and more unappealing; why would people be tempted to upgrade to literally the exact same system but with better specs and a slightly larger screen without some killer apps? I highly doubt the Switch 2 will do superbly well until cross-gens are a near non-entity for first party releases, especially in its first year or two. Nintendo have given people almost no reason to upgrade with their horrible pricing, lackluster launch line-up, constant spits in the face to consumers and plethora of upcoming cross-gens.

I've gone on about this basically nonstop in Switch threads since the Switch 2 build initially leaked, but this thing is not going to do gangbusters for a good long while (if ever). Best-case scenario for the next few years is that it's stuck in a PS5 situation, where it keeps pace with the past gen solely from people trading in their Switch 1s for 2s. Worst-case scenario it's another Wii U and needs years of salvaging to be even remotely worth anything.
 
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Switch 2 has problems running many Switch 1 games. Some of these are Limited Run Games's ports of old games. No idea what's so difficult about running those on a current console.

Joy-Con 2s will have the same Drifting problems that Joy-Con 1s have, and they're more expensive. They aren't at all expensive to make, but expensive to buy. Don't understand why.

The Switch 2 version of Breath of the Wild has a feature where Zelda backseats you the entire time. The series brings back Annoying Helper Characters in full force.

People who bought this console in spite of complaining will get exactly the console they deserve.
 
In Europoor land I can go into the shop today and buy one. It's not just the US
I wonder if the shortages in nipland are just due to the subsidized pricing then. Makes sense they'd prioritize markets where they can actually get profit on Switch 2s as opposed to Japan where like half of the units are being sold at a loss to curry favor with the population.

Switch 2 has problems running many Switch 1 games. Some of these are Limited Run Games's ports of old games. No idea what's so difficult about running those on a current console.
There's imperfect GPU emulation right now. Splatoon 3 actually has a bug on Switch 2 where you can Squid Roll anywhere (not just in your own color ink) because of bugged ink detection which is likely due to improper GPU emulation. As a result, Splatoon 3 isn't playable online on Switch 2 atm.
 
I was given a switch 2 as a birthday present, Mario kart world is actually pretty fun, obviously not worth 80 dollars though. The the console itself is very lightweight compared to my legion go, it feels like a cheap toy, botw and totk run at a consistent 60fps, and gamecube games run about the same as they would in dolphin. I look forward to trying Kirby Air Riders when it comes out, I don't think I'll be buying any 3rd party games on the switch 2 if they're available on other platforms though.

7/10 too much water
ill probably consider getting it later in the year if its still available online it does seem like stock isn't a complete shitshow like the PS5 and Series X were at launch, will probably start with Mario Kart and either DK or Metroid Prime, but like what literally everyone else has said though 80 dollars is a big fucking asking price, especially when you can just piss $20 at Microsoft every month and get a literal catalog of FIrst-Party games plus a ton of Third-Party shit as well
 
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it does seem like stock isn't a complete shitshow like the PS5 and Series X were at launch

They definitely had WAY more stock than any other launch. Highest launch sales ever was PS4 at just over 1 million units in the first 24 hours. Switch 2 did 3 million. For perspective, PS4 and PS5 did around 4.5 million in the first MONTH. Switch 2 has very likely already hit that mark in 3 days, and if not, it certainly will in the first week.
 
They definitely had WAY more stock than any other launch. Highest launch sales ever was PS4 at just over 1 million units in the first 24 hours. Switch 2 did 3 million. For perspective, PS4 and PS5 did around 4.5 million in the first MONTH. Switch 2 has very likely already hit that mark in 3 days, and if not, it certainly will in the first week.
There's also the fact that they had a re-supply ready to go just about immediately after the initial shipment that went out weeks before launch ran out. Most of the switch 2s you're seeing at stores are not the initial shipment, it's the re-supply.
 
Why would Nintendo give a shit, they did the exact same thing on Switch 1 (use the form of a USB-C while not adhering to the actual standard) and to the best of my knowledge all that came of it was that some retards who had voided their warranty by not using Nintendo Seal Of Quality overpriced peripherals bricked their Switches and had to buy another while Papa Miyamoto laughed.

I'm sort of curious Nintendo's standard changed again to fuck with the Madcatz of the world or if it's just the same standard with the same consequence but Nintendo certainly didn't do the sane thing and revise the power supply to not fucking kill itself if you stuck a USB C charger running USB C voltage into the USB C hole in your console so I have to assume this is intended.
How the fuck did the EU didn't have their balls for it? My only guess it's some loophole that they can't have their own cable but having their own power requirement is alright. It's just scummy.
They definitely had WAY more stock than any other launch. Highest launch sales ever was PS4 at just over 1 million units in the first 24 hours. Switch 2 did 3 million. For perspective, PS4 and PS5 did around 4.5 million in the first MONTH. Switch 2 has very likely already hit that mark in 3 days, and if not, it certainly will in the first week.
Source is literally "my 3 uncles working at Nintendo":

Also using weird wording so it's not clear if it involves selling or merely shipping to stores.
 
I think Nintendo should have held off on releasing TotK on Switch 1 and instead waited and worked longer on it so it could've been launched alongside the Switch 2 and take more advantage of whatever new capabilities the switch 2 has over the switch 1. If TotK was coming out for the first time right now with switch 2 the console would be in very high demand right now. This also would have given them more time to work on Mario Kart World for a later release as well so it's not so dead and boring.
TotK just shouldn't exist. It should have been DLC as originally planned, and we should have a new, wholly original 3D Zelda for launch here (or by the end of the year at least).

Nintendo has mishandled Zelda and Mario in very Sega-esque ways, and I don't know how they're getting away with it because Wii U proved people have standards (or used to anyway, guess a lot can change in...13 years?!).
 
Only two hours of battery life.

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And the battery will degrade fast and soon enough you'll be lucky if you get one hour. That's not a portable device; the NDS was the last portable system.
 
Only two hours of battery life.

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And the battery will degrade fast and soon enough you'll be lucky if you get one hour. That's not a portable device; the NDS was the last portable system.
Makes sense. If you saw the factory leak or look at the teardown of one, it's using the Switch Lite's smaller battery. That thing was intended to basically get the base Switch's battery life, but on a shrunk down process. And now for some reasons, they stuck with that on a souped up device.
 
Makes sense. If you saw the factory leak or look at the teardown of one, it's using the Switch Lite's smaller battery. That thing was intended to basically get the base Switch's battery life, but on a shrunk down process. And now for some reasons, they stuck with that on a souped up device.
No wonder they managed to ship 3 million units. They literally cannibalized their unsold units to maximize profits.
 
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