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Between wanting to abolish ICE and defunding the police, why does the left want total anarchy? Why is the left's goal to spread mass chaos?
Chaos is a ladder, and the Left have no consciences. They will piss on you and tell you it's raining. Likewise, they will burn down your cities and say "it's all peaceful, you're abusing us peaceful protestors, we dindu nuffin!"

Leftists don't inform, persuade, or convince; they gaslight, humiliate, and crybully. When you believe you are on the "Right Side of History", you consequently believe you can do no wrong, because the ends justify the means.
 
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It's incredible that every single time leftists pull this type of shit it just becomes a fucking gumbo of every shitty cause they've decided to take up. Ostensibly this is all supposed to be about illegals getting booted out of the country, but everyone brings along "free Palestine" and "trans rights" and "something something Donald Trump" and whatever other stupid shit that's been force fed directly into their brains.

Amazingly, they will still champion climate change non-science after literally torching multiple electrical vehicles, however.
This speaks to a fundamental problem of Progressivism/Leftism in general. It's core tenants instill the belief that everyone's personal ideological whims are as important to and equal in society and relies on leveraging moral servitude to enforce them.

Which sounds great in a Star Trek world where humans all generally behave rationally and reasonably. But anyone who's spent any time in the real world knows that's not how society works. You have a non-insignificant portion of the population who are mentally ill, maladjusted or just plain broken who seek selfish and self serving interests to the detriment of everyone around them at all costs, let alone deal with things like addictions which compell people to break this agreement of reasonability.

Even before Trump, Leftists had a terrible problem of staying focused on a single cause while constantly purity testing its own ranks against anyone who suggested they treat one cause with any more urgency than another. Focus on healthcare?, you're a transphobe for not wanting to focus on the plight of the tranny in [insert current year]. Housing availability? You're abelist for not wanting to tackle accessibility for disabled people first instead of the general public.

So we end up with progressivism being splintered and fractured around several pet causes, and any time praxis is needed, it becomes this confused hydra of blue hairs, trannies, fat people and autistic retards all yelling at the same, and getting framed alongside, the mexicans and niggers burning neighborhoods down.

Conservatives, on the other hand, generally have much better luck all pulling on the overton window rope at the same time because there's boundaries of things like religion and racial homogeny aligning people within a narrower band of behavior and desires, even while espousing things like freedom and individuality.
 
Wouldn't that backfire of Trump does the bare minimum response he's required to do and otherwise leave all responsibility to the individual States, as intended by the constitution?

As far as I'm aware no Republican run state is having rioting and very few Democrat ones are having as much rioting as California.
The problem isn't so much that it's bait, but rather that the reality is the Uniparty has control of the House and they've demonstrated that very effectively. This whole thing is an exercise daring Trump to act and how he acts has to be calculated. This is the second time around. He HAS to act. So far he's doing good. Strong responses and Democrats are tanking their own midterm campaigns. The big guns have been brought out, we have to see how June 14th plays out.

Someone above wisely said MAGA is demoralized to galvanize them, and they're 100% right. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Too many people got complacent after Trump won. This is a stark reminder to the entire country of how insane the Uniparty is.
 
It's not the same. They are fighting under a foreign flag. They are enemy combatants. they have no rights.
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Thank you. I was going to say something about that and wasn't sure if anyone else had picked it up (of course they did). It's crazy to me how it has become the norm in Western states to see chimpouts with foreign flags. A dude standing on a burning car waving the Mexican flag. WTF? That would've been a declaration of war in the past.
In France they carry Moroccan, Tunisian or Algerian flags. In Germany it's Palestine or Turkey.

People have become desensitized to how weird that is because everyone is waving around their Pride or *insert country (((we))) support right now* flags at every gathering.
 
The American police (in particular) should not be using this kind of insane third worlder terror tactics to disperse rioters
okay. i'll bite. why shouldn't we use tactics like this? why should people who would rape and kill my mother, or your mother, or their own fucking mothers sometimes. why should we treat a massed group of niggers or spics in a different way than they treat whites every day? than they treat cops? than they treat children? why shouldn't these people be shot and killed when they commit extremely violent crimes like rioting, arson, looting and assault?
 
So I have been thinking about it more and more and would love to hear others thoughts on this concern

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Deporting lets say 12 million people (since 2021 and to assume they massaged the numbers) is bordering on impossible, the Holocaust museum says there was 9.5 million Jews in Europe in 1939, I got news for you guys, despite a certain guy and his pals BEST attempt there are still jews in Europe. Im using a little black humor to make my point but really think about it, like the nazis worked PRETTTY hard to get rid of the jews so im saying are we willing to work even harder to get rid of the mexicans? and before you edge lords say yes remember Hitler lost that war so maybe using a large portion of your country industrial base to get rid of potential labor pools is kinda foolish.

Its a logistical nightmare, I say we get the building railroads or somthing useful atleast
It has to be a combination. Make it impossible for them to live here outside of the system. Make it a crime to give them a bank account, or to allow them to send money via western union as remittances, et cetera. No, Western Union does not have the 1st amendment right to allow non-citizens to use their services -- we lost the right to association when it turns out people generally don't want to associate with niggers or women if they aren't legally forced to.

The blue states will keep trying to pay gibs for their pets -- the demoralization and conditioning they're under is such they'd literally starve to death before letting their pet browns go hungry -- but do it federally and force them kicking and screaming to stop. The wetbacks will leave once they can't get free shit and syphon money away from us, and those that won't we'll catch in deportation sweeps.
What are the objective benefits of the riots ending at this point? The longer it goes on, the more pain is inflicted on the worst city in the US and the more humiliation that Bass and Newsom have to endure. Who benefits from the riots ending?
Since these particular riots are in response to a raid on cartel money laundering and human trafficking operations, and are funded (at least initially) by a cuban national who has been found guilty in the past of money laundering... I'm guessing the goal is to slow them down long enough for them to destroy evidence and get anyone important out of the region before ICE and the Fedboys can arrest them.

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Ok I have a business idea. You know those billionaires that hire 'yachts' that are actually strapped with full on 50cal mgs and rocket launchers and shit like that and they go sail around Yemen or Africa and just enjoy the scenery until they are forced to defend themselves from pirates? Imagine that, but it's an LA roof, instead of pirates it's retards throwing rocks and explosives at police.
 
Thank you. I was going to say something about that and wasn't sure if anyone else had picked it up (of course they did). It's crazy to me how it has become the norm in Western states to see chimpouts with foreign flags. A dude standing on a burning car waving the Mexican flag. WTF? That would've been a declaration of war in the past.
In France they carry Moroccan, Tunisian or Algerian flags. In Germany it's Palestine or Turkey.

People have become desensitized to how weird that is because everyone is waving around their Pride or *insert country (((we))) support right now* flags at every gathering.
It's as if the idea is to destroy or demoralize strong national identities to the point of irrelevance in a futile effort to bring about global "one race, the human race"
 
They are unironically posting the Chaos star, so yes.
So we end up with progressivism being splintered and fractured around several pet causes, and any time praxis is needed, it becomes this confused hydra of blue hairs, trannies, fat people and autistic retards all yelling at the same, and getting framed alongside, the mexicans and niggers burning neighborhoods down.
If you'll pardon my soying over 40k (which let's be honest, is just Star Wars for chuds and edgelords), these go hand-in-hand. Just like in real life, the forces of Chaos hate each other almost as much as they hate the forces of Order.

A house divided against itself cannot stand, and these spiteful mutants will turn on their "allies" the moment their pet cause is threatened by another.
 
Between wanting to abolish ICE and defunding the police, why does the left want total anarchy? Why is the left's goal to spread mass chaos?
The serious answer is they want community lead organizations who's main focus is on crime prevention and de-escalation, and think it would work because they have never been on the receiving end of violent crime before. Which as we have seen, those approaches are ineffective AT BEST, and an out right embezzlement scheme AT WORST. If they get their wish, all that will happen is the streets will be ruled by gangs or militias, with the national guard cracking down on any paramilitary groups that support the wrong party.
 
Thank you. I was going to say something about that and wasn't sure if anyone else had picked it up (of course they did). It's crazy to me how it has become the norm in Western states to see chimpouts with foreign flags. A dude standing on a burning car waving the Mexican flag. WTF? That would've been a declaration of war in the past.
In France they carry Moroccan, Tunisian or Algerian flags. In Germany it's Palestine or Turkey.

People have become desensitized to how weird that is because everyone is waving around their Pride or *insert country (((we))) support right now* flags at every gathering.
By the way, the organizers are telling all of them to carry American flags instead now. Don't be surprised when it happens.

Oh, and just let me take this opportunity to say I hope I live to see that kike in charge of Mexico get necklaced by the cartels if we don't bomb her to Hell first. Send your taco troops in, Sheinbaum. See what happens.
 
Since these particular riots are in response to a raid on cartel money laundering and human trafficking operations, and are funded (at least initially) by a cuban national who has been found guilty in the past of money laundering... I'm guessing the goal is to slow them down long enough for them to destroy evidence and get anyone important out of the region before ICE and the Fedboys can arrest them
It should be embarrassing to the Democrats that south American cartels can basically fund mercenaries to cause chaos on America using processes that Democrats have put in place.
 
I apologize if someone has already posted this, but everyone who isn't a shitlib needs to read this X thread analysis from "WokalDistance" of how the "protesting" is taking place. It's long, but he's got that good kind of autism.

https://threadnavigator.com/thread/1931953269775188449/

TL;DC summary: all of this is planned, coordinated, tactical, and funded by rich people, and some thought needs to go into how the authorities respond to it, because the response from authorities is the point of this entire thing just like in 2020. All you geniuses who were pissed at the first Trump administration's tepid response to the Summer of Love (with the entirety of the media lying about every fucking thing he did) especially need to read and consider this.

It's obvious what all of these rioters deserve. But that's not going to help long term.

Also, Walter Kern, in yesterday's America This Week stream with Matt Taibbi, said he had sources that warned him exactly when this "protesting" was going to start. None of this is organic.
I'm a single paragraph in and I already call bullshit.

The author is indicating the existence of these decorated shields are evidence of central planning and funding. They claim "Each shield takes 3 hours to make, and activists spend all day making them (pic 4) That's not spontaneous, it takes planning".

If you spend ANY time reading some of the lolcow threads of autist ANTIFA trannies, you'll see that these people have NOTHING ELSE TO DO and are obsessed with black bloc activities and LARPing as gorilla infantry. Even the most broke / tugboat using retards manage to spend large amounts of time and effort making their Trans Flag riot gear for "the uprising" and proudly bring / show it off every chance they can.

It's not evidence of planning. It's evidence of autism. And this forum documents these kinds of people all the time.
 
Someone above wisely said MAGA is demoralized to galvanize them, and they're 100% right. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Too many people got complacent after Trump won. This is a stark reminder to the entire country of how insane the Uniparty is.
It's also notable that we're no longer under COVID lockdowns. It was a combination of the riots and the lockdowns (along with literal cheating, but the former two gave plausible cover for the latter) that pushed Biden over the finish line in 2020. People so desperately wanted all the insanity to just stop that they held their nose for the "moderate, old grandpa," and all it got them was more misery.
Now that people aren't barricaded inside their homes anymore, they can instead chuckle and shake their heads at this nonsense while watching the news at a local bar.
 
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Remember: empathetic, single, childless women can still vote, unfortunately.
Yeah. A normal girl is probably lefty by default but will convert to whatever her baby daddy is.

When all they have is cats and hatred for men, they’re on the other side of the moon, Alice

(quote from Falling Down, supplemented by AI generated image of Michael Douglas’ character as a lesbian)
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