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Should be a wild four years.

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Why does openly embracing criminality seem to be a central tenet of progressivism? You come here illegally, you get removed. A—>B. It’s so basic you’d think even the biggest bleeding heart would understand it has to be done. I cannot fucking believe we have half the country believing enforcing laws is mean and you need to have a heckin empathy and let people do anything they want all the time. I’m so hung up on this this morning, I can’t fathom it. It only fuels my schizo theory that city-dwellers’ heads are getting too full of plastic to grasp cause and effect. Or reality in general.
Because degrading society causes rot and decay and collapse and they can move and take over is the theory.

The same theory exists in part by accelerationists.
 
It only fuels my schizo theory that city-dwellers’ heads are getting too full of plastic to grasp cause and effect. Or reality in general.
I call it 'groid mentality. They've internalized their inner nigger so much that the subconsciously believe that the invaders that crossed the border are in fact, completely different people than the invader being deported because they do not, in fact, understand causality. I think this mindset is a social contagion more than endemic of race but it's slave mentality at its finest, there's only the eternal now.
 
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Why does openly embracing criminality seem to be a central tenet of progressivism? You come here illegally, you get removed. A—>B. It’s so basic you’d think even the biggest bleeding heart would understand it has to be done. I cannot fucking believe we have half the country believing enforcing laws is mean and you need to have a heckin empathy and let people do anything they want all the time. I’m so hung up on this this morning, I can’t fathom it. It only fuels my schizo theory that city-dwellers’ heads are getting too full of plastic to grasp cause and effect. Or reality in general.
sowell mascots and criminals and liberals.webp
 
Because law and order is mean and shit. You can't run on emotions when enforcing the law. Which is a problem for the Left, because that is their entire platform, feelings and shit mang.
This, a million times this. Law and order sometimes means that the poor man with a drug problem who needs mental health counseling gets his ass kicked because he's menacing members of the public. Law and order means people who loot buildings get arrested and booked on felony charges. Leftists stopped winning in courts because juries are made up of community members who don't care for criminals who fuck up their neighborhoods, so they push this policy reform and upper circuit judicial activism.
 
I'm more referring to how if you criticize certain politicians or policies people will lose their shit. People lost their shit at me for criticizing Massie until recently when it turned out I was right.
You have to know that most people thought the only reason you went after him was his stance on Israel, right? I can't stand that faggot, his stance on aid to israel and aipac is one of the only things about him that is laudable.
 
Exclusive | U.S. Agencies Tracked Foreigners Traveling to See Musk
The Wall Street Journal (archive.ph)
By Dana Mattioli, Michelle Hackman, Josh Dawsey and Emily Glazer
10 Jun 2025 13:25:42 UTC
Several U.S. government agencies in 2022 and 2023 tracked foreign nationals coming and going to Elon Musk’s properties, according to people familiar with the matter.

The investigation included the Department of Homeland Security and the Justice Department. It focused on people visiting the tech billionaire, from countries in Eastern Europe and elsewhere, who might have been trying to influence him. Until last week, Musk was one of President Trump’s closest advisers.

The investigation didn’t progress to charges and its current status couldn’t be determined. Officials at several agencies, including the Federal Bureau of Investigation, had been briefed on it.

The probe, predating the current Trump administration, highlights concerns about the number of foreign nationals in Musk’s orbit. Musk runs five companies, including SpaceX, with sensitive government contracts, and has had unprecedented access to top government officials.

The current Trump administration has sounded alarms about the influence of foreigners on the country. Trump recently imposed travel bans and restrictions on more than a dozen countries and on foreign students enrolling at American universities.

Musk didn’t respond to requests for comment. A White House spokeswoman referred requests for comment to DHS and the FBI, and White House officials said they had no knowledge of any previous investigation. The FBI declined to comment.

Trump re-entered office in January after a historic comeback campaign that was buoyed by more than $250 million from Musk’s super political-action committee, mostly funded by the billionaire, and his other political giving. Musk, who was born in South Africa and is a naturalized U.S. citizen, dominated the early days of the administration as a special government employee tasked with slashing the federal budget. But his alliance with Trump imploded last week in a spectacular war of words that saw both men hurling insults and threats.

Even as they worked together over the past few months, however, there had been signs of tension over Musk’s association with foreign nationals.

Musk traveled with foreigners to such an extent that the staff of his super PAC, which he started last year to help re-elect Trump, became concerned about who was joining him at meetings and events, two people familiar with the group’s operations said.

An official at the group, called America PAC, said they had to institute extensive vetting to keep foreigners out of their efforts. Two campaign staffers also said they were worried about Musk’s coterie of foreign nationals.

Through his businesses and status as the world’s richest man, Musk had established his own relationships with heads of state around the world, sometimes in eyebrow-raising ways.

The Wall Street Journal reported in October that Musk has been in regular contact with Russian President Vladimir Putin since late 2022. Musk’s contacts with foreign nationals led SpaceX lawyers to advise him against seeking a higher security clearance, for fear that he might have to explain the relationships or have his clearance revoked entirely, the Journal reported.

As chief executive of SpaceX, Musk has top-secret security clearance, which gives him access to some national-security secrets. SpaceX, which Musk founded in 2002, has worked with national-security agencies since its early days.

Write to Dana Mattioli at dana.mattioli@wsj.com, Michelle Hackman at michelle.hackman@wsj.com, Josh Dawsey at Joshua.Dawsey@WSJ.com and Emily Glazer at Emily.Glazer@wsj.com
 
Why does openly embracing criminality seem to be a central tenet of progressivism? You come here illegally, you get removed. A—>B. It’s so basic you’d think even the biggest bleeding heart would understand it has to be done. I cannot fucking believe we have half the country believing enforcing laws is mean and you need to have a heckin empathy and let people do anything they want all the time. I’m so hung up on this this morning, I can’t fathom it. It only fuels my schizo theory that city-dwellers’ heads are getting too full of plastic to grasp cause and effect. Or reality in general.
Leftism views all things through an oppressor vs oppressed historiography.

Blacks - oppressed; Whites - oppressor
Labor - oppressed; Capitalist - oppressor
Women - oppressed; Men - oppressor
Homosexuals - oppressed; Heterosexuals - oppressor
Criminals - oppressed; Justice - oppressor
you need to stop thinking about principles and start thinking about partisanism in order to make sense of it.
"there are no bad tactics, only bad targets" is the code they live by. if you go against white people and against the right wing, then anything you do is righteous and justified and legal. if you go against brown people or against the left wing, then anything you do is bad and wrong and criminal.
that is their worldview. whenever progtards do shit that you find bewildering or nonsensical, look at it through this lense and it will make sense to you.
Because degrading society causes rot and decay and collapse and they can move and take over is the theory.
Their only real talents are manipulation, emotional blackmail, and DARVOing.
 
You mean to tell me that Nick Fuentes acts the way he does as a CIA psyop, not on his own volition? I'm not disagreeing per se, it doesn't make sense.
Have you not seen his thread?

Fucker was publicly at J6, egging people into the buildings.
He wasn't arrested and yet fans of his were.
Has been basically caught with a Fed Handler quite a few times since.


This info is right there.
Not every thread is a mindless circlejerk like the DJT was, including on the "Right Wing'" Lolcows
 
This, a million times this. Law and order sometimes means that the poor man with a drug problem who needs mental health counseling gets his ass kicked because he's menacing members of the public. Law and order means people who loot buildings get arrested and booked on felony charges. Leftists stopped winning in courts because juries are made up of community members who don't care for criminals who fuck up their neighborhoods, so they push this policy reform and upper circuit judicial activism.
I think your take is a little too topical.

Like, look at every national level elected democrat. Do you think they actually give a shit about being mean to the junkies or the illegals or whatever?

It’s 100% cloward/piven system overload. They will love the law again when they get to write it from scratch, without the restraint of our current constitution
 
So Mexico declared war? That makes things so much simpler! Live rounds can now be authorized and loaded.
This reminds me a lot how middle eastern countries work. Slinging missiles at each other for some reason is never enough to officially say you are at war. Mexican leaders, of the executive class no less, are openly declaring their intentions to take US soil via Civilian proxies. This is an act of war in any context including the current one.
 
I'm well aware many individual jews have a persecution complex, and that many jews at the top pull some skeevy shit. I'm also aware that
-So does EVERY other race including ours to a degree.
-There are enormous amounts of people compiling such quotes from jews while ignoring them from everyone else.
-The majority of those quotes are 40+ years old.

I'm also well aware that in an obnoxiously high number of cases, the people pushing this propose the solution of essentially destroying everything i care about to spite the jews for trying to destroy it first.

Please tell me, do the jews
-Want us to have a strong military or a weak one?
-Want us to be hypersexualized or promiscuous?
-Want us working hard or hating work?
-Want us inventing new tech or holding it back?

Whatever answer you have to these questions, half of jew haters (i won't use the term nazi because i'm convinced most of this comes from yellow toothed arabs) have the opposite. But one thing they all have in common is they get angry at me for having the audacity to care about my country, religion, values, military, institutions, and so on because it somehow benefits jews when i do this (or don't do it). The only acceptable reaction to anything that happens one way or the other is completely demoralized doomerism blamed on jews.

When the solution to the jew problem means basically committing seppuku (mixed with a fine dash of "leave the muslim powers alooooneeee!") i'm going to become very skeptical of people who bring up the jew problem.
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This, a million times this. Law and order sometimes means that the poor man with a drug problem who needs mental health counseling gets his ass kicked because he's menacing members of the public. Law and order means people who loot buildings get arrested and booked on felony charges. Leftists stopped winning in courts because juries are made up of community members who don't care for criminals who fuck up their neighborhoods, so they push this policy reform and upper circuit judicial activism.
That old quote of "the law is the law" is simply the truth. If you take issue with the law, get it changed. Breaking it however is how you get your ass kicked, how you get tear gas in your face. The left wants everything now though. They want no laws unless it serves them. It's why they commit crimes. The law is stupid and dumb, so it shouldn't be followed according to the Left.
 
Emperor Maximilian
Nice write up but Habsburgo Max was installed as the result of various factions vying for power, the monarchists won, and who by no means were popular with most Mexicans, especially after Spanish Independence and a second French invasion. Something similar would happen here if @mindlessobserver got his wish and Trump was crowned God Emperor of the United States, all hell would break loose and executions would be in season.
 
That old quote of "the law is the law" is simply the truth. If you take issue with the law, get it changed. Breaking it however is how you get your ass kicked, how you get tear gas in your face. The left wants everything now though. They want no laws unless it serves them. It's why they commit crimes. The law is stupid and dumb, so it shouldn't be followed according to the Left.
They can't get legislative reform through, they can't do shit with executive orders because losing an election undoes it all, they can't do shit with judicial activism because the Supreme Court isn't stacked their way, they can't social engineer their bullshit anymore because everyone is tired of it... so their only options now are to take the L or turn to violence.
 
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