Lolcow Andrew Peter Carlson / Anaiah Carlson / Tamarlover / Xtamarlover - Jewish/Christian Wannabe Cult Leader, Stalker, Ugly af, dogfucker, mayor of spitsville

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

If you did manage to get with Tamar, how would you treat her kids? Do you know anything about childrearing?

 

[Broken Pussy]

Would you accept an alternate Tamar? Like Tamar Braxton? Or is she too black for you? According to Wikipedia, Tammy is a familiarization of Tamar. Have you heard of a woman by the name of Tammy Slaton?

 

[catcatcat]

What I am doing is only partially out of lust. A large portion of it is for a righteous intention. But I didn't know the proper way to do it and she gets me angry and upset and frustrated so I sometimes lashed out at her at that wasn't right of me especially at the latter portion of 2016. I think we become redeemed by ceasing from doing any intentional wrongs. My beliefs say we must be 100% sinless to be saved from eternal punishment and even the smallest intentional sin is enough to make us lose our salvation if we ever had it. I believe I am Tamar's best chance of becoming sinless and overcoming the sins in her life that she is currently unaware of. I will help her see her flaws.

and what of your own "sins"? are the actions youre taking not wrongdoings regardless of their intent? i cant imagine that someone could be so "selfless" as to believe they should sacrifice their own redemption/salvation in the name of someone who they can not control. you yourself have determined the doctrine you follow, yet youre willing to break it to proselytize another person who has deemed themselves incompatible with it?

the road to hell is paved with good intentions, but the road to jail is paved with the actions based on them. the very same ones that brought you here, andrew. how defensible are your actions when they cause another living being to be hurt? and dont say you wont or arent hurting anyone, we all know this is a lie.

 

[redcent]

Can someone please tell me if this is a ? Is this for reals?

They didn't fail me because they put me through therapy as a child and the therapist experts told them it was no longer needed. I only started getting "unhinged" as some might call it, after my first semester of college. My parents are not to blame for my actions. I understand the normal rules and boundaries, I just disagree with some of those rules and boundaries. Extreme fixation however has been consistent for me from early childhood, but its only a problem if I fixate extremely on something not good for me to fixate on. You say i am unable to accept alternate ideas, but thats not true. My journey is a testimony to that. Why do you think I only became like this with Tamar and none of the other women I was extremely attracted to? For the others, I was able to accept that they didn't want to be with me. My ex I was unable to accept that for about 1 year. Then after she remarried and divorced someone else, I knew I could never be with her ever again. Also when I realized my ex was literally insane, and that there's no way I could reason with her, I gave up on wanting to be with my ex. Rather than saying unable to accept alternative ideas the truth is if I am unwilling to accept some alternatives that I don't want to accept.

I really don't think you have any vantage or moral high ground over someone who is "literally insane".

 

[SourDiesel]

fact is, whipping someone 40 times will only seriously danger them if you try to permanently injure them. I do not believe permanent injuries like that are acceptable. You can whip someone not that hard 40 times. you don't whip someone as hard as you can or that it kills them or permanently injures them. that would be immoral.

"During the American Revolutionary War, the American Congress raised the legal limit on lashes from 39 to 100 for soldiers who were convicted by courts-martial."

"There were protests in Egypt this week after an Egyptian doctor was sentenced to 15 years in prison and 1,500 lashes by the Saudi Arabian government for prescribing medicine to a princess that "drove her to addiction." The wife of the convicted doctor worried publicly that the sentence would kill him. How many lashes can one man stand? It depends on how you're lashed. It's very unlikely that the doctor will die from his sentence if it is administered in the usual Saudi Arabian way—i.e., broken up into weekly bouts of 50 lashings each."

There are also ancient law codes of ancient mesopatamia which have 100 lashes. You are overreacting once again trying to make me look like I am a worse person. Demonization.

"In colloquial usage, the term demonization is used metaphorically to refer to propaganda or moral panic directed against any individual or group."

Okay literally none of this is relevant so I didn't read it. It's not about precisely, medically how many lashes of what kind in what place on the body would or would not kill someone. It's about the fact that the people who used lashes in the bible as punishment thought 40 lashes would kill someone - so they used 40 lashes in place of a death sentence.

We aren't talking about what number of lashes would actually kill someone, dumbass, we're talking about whether you agree with the death penalty. Because in the bible, 40 lashes is the equivalent of the death penalty. You exceptional fucking IDIOT.

Again, not that your emaciated frame could even lift a proper bullwhip let alone strike anything with it. It isn't easy to do, you realize this yes?

Can someone please tell me if this is a ? Is this for reals?

It unfortunately appears to be very real.

 

[BILLY MAYS]

"I feel a part of me that was with you now died when you deleted your email account I made for you."

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

@tamarlover you mentioned vigilante action being performed, what if the person is falsely accused?, and you can get in trouble for not reporting a crime, what will you do about that?

Yeah that's the primary concern false accusation. So you have to be 100% convinced and it is on you if you are wrong. If our community does not have proof that someone was guilty of murder or rape, but a family member of the alleged victim kills them anyways, we will ask them for proof and if they cannot offer proof we will treat them as a murderer and arrest them for murder and report them to the government. As to getting in trouble for not reporting a crime, i'm not sure if you get in trouble for not reporting a crime ill have to look that up. But I think it could be worth the risk if it ever happened. We would not tell. I know someone who told me that he as an adult had sex with a 15 year old boy or something like that. It was consentual. He asked if I think he should turn himself in or not. I had a discussion with him about discussing my views with him as to if it is better to just let it go or to deal with. I tried to not tell him what the right thing for him to do was but i tried to give him hypotheticals and conditions. If this is the case then you should. But if this is not the case, then it may be better not to turn yourself in. Things like that. He ended up not turning himself in. And I did not report him. And I never will report him.

 

[Cato]

Yeah that's the primary concern false accusation. So you have to be 100% convinced and it is on you if you are wrong. If our community does not have proof that someone was guilty of murder or rape, but a family member of the alleged victim kills them anyways, we will ask them for proof and if they cannot offer proof we will treat them as a murderer and arrest them for murder and report them to the government.

The whole point of a formal criminal justice system is to be a detached, objective, neutral third party that requires actual standards of evidence. Why do you support vigilantism if you recognize why these features of justice are important?

As to getting in trouble for not reporting a crime, i'm not sure if you get in trouble for not reporting a crime ill have to look that up.

Depends on the circumstances but this could make you an accessory to the crime, yes.

I know someone who told me that he as an adult had sex with a 15 year old boy or something like that. It was consentual. He asked if I think he should turn himself in or not. I had a discussion with him about discussing my views with him as to if it is better to just let it go or to deal with. I tried to not tell him what the right thing for him to do was but i tried to give him hypotheticals and conditions. If this is the case then you should. But if this is not the case, then it may be better not to turn yourself in. Things like that. He ended up not turning himself in. And I did not report him. And I never will report him.

Jesus...

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

What would it take for Tamar to be considered insane and unreasonable? How are people close to you reacting to your presence here?

I only spoke about it more with a few people. The one guy wanted to join and rebuke people here for what they are doing. I didn't tell him don't do that but I said he didn't have to do that. I'm not sure if he is planning on doing it or not. Otherwise, I don't think anyone really knows about it. I mean i told people about it vaguely but I didn't really talk any further about it with most people. If anyone else knows about this website they would only know if they searched it of their own initiative and none of those people have contacted me about it.

If Tamar was insane like my ex she would be saying things which she actually believes to be true but which are so out of touch with what actually happened that no sane person could believe those things. Its hard to give specific lines to what that looks like, but my ex is a perfect example, so I will compare her with my ex and if she ever gets looney like my ex then that will be a red flag for me and i'll stop pursuing her. I think she'd be unreasonable that she will not budge at all no matter what I do and that she utterly refuses no matter what to talk with me. If she refuses to talk with me ever again no matter what, then I'll move on. Or if i see she can't be convinced that she is wrong about me. As of right now, I still have things I can do to get her to reason with me. involving money. But right now, its all talk and no show. She'll only be impressed if I put my money where my mouth is and actually do the things I say i'll do for her. Then maybe she'll give me another chance when she sees how devoted I am and how much effort i put into making things right and helping her out with what she needs. But right now, all she sees is me saying all do things for her but no proof I will. Until i can offer proof of what I am offering she will probably not give me another chance.

If you did manage to get with Tamar, how would you treat her kids? Do you know anything about childrearing?

I will do whatever Tamar wants me to do with the children except what i consider morally wrong. Like i mentioned before, I will never spank them. As I consider it immoral. I know some about childrearing. But you don't have to know about childrearing to become a parent, but it is preferable to do that of course. But many people learn childrearing through experience. I don't have to be too much an expert on childrearing at first, I just have to be enough of an asset to be beneficial to the family dynamic. I had a small amount of experience when I was with my ex trying to raise her son. I learned a couple lessons of what not to do with children in the future. One thing I learned is not to punish a child or do something that will illicit a scream unless first informing the spouse what is being done. I gave her son a shower but he was only 3 and he hated the water on his head. So he was crying and screaming. She came rushing in because she thought something was horribly wrong. I apologized to her I didn't mean to make her afraid something was wrong. I had thought that I could give him a shower as a punishment, because I knew he didn't like a shower, but I also knew that its not bad to get a shower and you have to learn to do things you don't want to do eventually. The other thing I did was we put her son in the basement in the dark as a timeout if he was being bad. Looking back I think that was not right to do and I won't do that again. The other thing I learned is its difficult to have sex when you also have a child to look after. There was a moment that was particularly funny where we thought he because he was so young he would be preoccupied with something that he had been given to play. We were having sex and then all of a sudden we realize he is watching us and licking his lips or something like that. I think he was just copying us or something. He was only 3 as I said. We were like oh no no don't watch us. So we stopped and tried to distract him again before we continued. So in the future I'll make sure that there'd be more privacy and that no child even if they are too young to understand is in the room.

Would you accept an alternate Tamar? Like Tamar Braxton? Or is she too black for you? According to Wikipedia, Tammy is a familiarization of Tamar. Have you heard of a woman by the name of Tammy Slaton?

If I will have anyone else, I don't want to have anyone named Tamar or Melinda.

I found Taylor Swift's real facebook profile that almost no one knows about and tried to contact her saying I wanted to be her friend. But she hasn't messaged me back and I know its not going to happen but it was worth a try.

 

[Cato]

I had a small amount of experience when I was with my ex trying to raise her son. I learned a couple lessons of what not to do with children in the future. One thing I learned is not to punish a child or do something that will illicit a scream unless first informing the spouse what is being done. I gave her son a shower but he was only 3 and he hated the water on his head. So he was crying and screaming. She came rushing in because she thought something was horribly wrong. I apologized to her I didn't mean to make her afraid something was wrong. I had thought that I could give him a shower as a punishment, because I knew he didn't like a shower, but I also knew that its not bad to get a shower and you have to learn to do things you don't want to do eventually. The other thing I did was we put her son in the basement in the dark as a timeout if he was being bad. Looking back I think that was not right to do and I won't do that again. The other thing I learned is its difficult to have sex when you also have a child to look after. There was a moment that was particularly funny where we thought he because he was so young he would be preoccupied with something that he had been given to play. We were having sex and then all of a sudden we realize he is watching us and licking his lips or something like that. I think he was just copying us or something. He was only 3 as I said. We were like oh no no don't watch us. So we stopped and tried to distract him again before we continued. So in the future I'll make sure that there'd be more privacy and that no child even if they are too young to understand is in the room.

Yikes. Okay, I know I shouldn't ask this because with every detail you provide I more and more wish I had access to the "horrifying" rating (it's like this is some steath fundraising effort for Null), but what did the kid do to warrant being "punished" by you?

 

[Meat_Puppet]

I will do whatever Tamar wants me to do with the children except what i consider morally wrong. Like i mentioned before, I will never spank them. As I consider it immoral. I know some about childrearing. But you don't have to know about childrearing to become a parent, but it is preferable to do that of course. But many people learn childrearing through experience. I don't have to be too much an expert on childrearing at first, I just have to be enough of an asset to be beneficial to the family dynamic. I had a small amount of experience when I was with my ex trying to raise her son. I learned a couple lessons of what not to do with children in the future. One thing I learned is not to punish a child or do something that will illicit a scream unless first informing the spouse what is being done. I gave her son a shower but he was only 3 and he hated the water on his head. So he was crying and screaming. She came rushing in because she thought something was horribly wrong. I apologized to her I didn't mean to make her afraid something was wrong. I had thought that I could give him a shower as a punishment, because I knew he didn't like a shower, but I also knew that its not bad to get a shower and you have to learn to do things you don't want to do eventually. <b> The other thing I did was we put her son in the basement in the dark as a timeout if he was being bad.</b> Looking back I think that was not right to do and I won't do that again. The other thing I learned is its difficult to have sex when you also have a child to look after. There was a moment that was particularly funny where we thought he because he was so young he would be preoccupied with something that he had been given to play. We were having sex and then all of a sudden we realize he is watching us and licking his lips or something like that. I think he was just copying us or something. He was only 3 as I said. We were like oh no no don't watch us. So we stopped and tried to distract him again before we continued. So in the future I'll make sure that there'd be more privacy and that no child even if they are too young to understand is in the room.

Dude... what the living fuck?

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

and what of your own "sins"? are the actions youre taking not wrongdoings regardless of their intent? i cant imagine that someone could be so "selfless" as to believe they should sacrifice their own redemption/salvation in the name of someone who they can not control. you yourself have determined the doctrine you follow, yet youre willing to break it to proselytize another person who has deemed themselves incompatible with it?

the road to hell is paved with good intentions, but the road to jail is paved with the actions based on them. the very same ones that brought you here, andrew. how defensible are your actions when they cause another living being to be hurt? and dont say you wont or arent hurting anyone, we all know this is a lie.

What i said is i won't ever physically hurt her. And that remains true. I cannot say i won't ever hurt her, because I have hurt her before, and most likely will hurt her again. Whether it be intentional or unintentional i do not know. But its much easier to hurt someone nonphysically than physically i think. Because some people are so complex and fragile. I sent pictures to her boyfriend of her photoshopped and described to him some of my sexual fantasies about her in order to piss him off. I think that was a sin on my part. I also for the second half of November 2016, I was so mean and malicious during that time, there is no way I can deny that I sinned by how I treated her. What I said to her and her husband during that time was really messed up. You saw in the email screenshots that creep hoodlolcow posted some really horrible stuff i sent her. Well there were some things I sent her not in those screenshots i sent hoodlolcow which were even worse. It was pretty bad. i never threatened her. But i said some really horrible and shameful things to her. I honestly think that was the most sinful of all of everything I ever did to her how I treated her in the month of November 2016. Much of everything else that happened I can justify or at least not feel that bad about. But that i feel horrible about 100% and I know in my heart that was very evil of me to say those things to her.

Yeah im walking a dangerous line of playing with my eternal soul. But I have to try to save her. Hopefully I won't lose my soul forever in the process.

 

[Cato]

I sent pictures to her boyfriend of her photoshopped and described to him some of my sexual fantasies about her in order to piss him off. I think that was a sin on my part.

Yet more random text material.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

What I am doing is only partially out of lust. A large portion of it is for a righteous intention.

And we all know that the road paved with good intentions leads to a wonderful place!

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

Okay literally none of this is relevant so I didn't read it. It's not about precisely, medically how many lashes of what kind in what place on the body would or would not kill someone. It's about the fact that the people who used lashes in the bible as punishment thought 40 lashes would kill someone - so they used 40 lashes in place of a death sentence.

We aren't talking about what number of lashes would actually kill someone, dumbass, we're talking about whether you agree with the death penalty. Because in the bible, 40 lashes is the equivalent of the death penalty. You exceptional fucking IDIOT.

Again, not that your emaciated frame could even lift a proper bullwhip let alone strike anything with it. It isn't easy to do, you realize this yes?

"Its about the fact that the people who used lashes in the bible as punishment thought 40 lashes would kill someone - so they used 40 lashes in place of a death sentence." And where does the evidence suggest that? You assume too much. The bible says "2 then it shall be, if the wicked man deserves to be beaten, that the judge will cause him to lie down and be beaten in his presence, according to his guilt, with a certain number of blows. 3 Forty blows he may give him and no more, lest he should exceed this and beat him with many blows above these, and your brother be humiliated in your sight."
So as you can see it says a maximum of 40 strikes he may give and no more, because anymore would humiliate him. Implying that 40 strikes doesn't humiliate him. But if as you say they used lashes because they thought it would kill someone that makes the statement about humiliation make no sense.

I can use a stick from a tree to slap you around if I was going to flog you.

 

[SourDiesel]

"Its about the fact that the people who used lashes in the bible as punishment thought 40 lashes would kill someone - so they used 40 lashes in place of a death sentence." And where does the evidence suggest that? You assume too much. The bible says "2 then it shall be, if the wicked man deserves to be beaten, that the judge will cause him to lie down and be beaten in his presence, according to his guilt, with a certain number of blows. 3 Forty blows he may give him and no more, lest he should exceed this and beat him with many blows above these, and your brother be humiliated in your sight."
So as you can see it says a maximum of 40 strikes he may give and no more, because anymore would humiliate him. Implying that 40 strikes doesn't humiliate him. But if as you say they used lashes because they thought it would kill someone that makes the statement about humiliation make no sense.

I can use a stick from a tree to slap you around if I was going to flog you.

Hooooly fucking hell... It is absolutely impressive how much irrelevant bs you can fixate on. DO YOU AGREE WITH THE DEATH PENALTY BY LASHING OR OTHER MEANS OR NOT?

Look, just as a suggestion: you're writing a hell of a lot of words in a short period of time. It is literally impossible for you to have been spending any time at all thinking about what you're saying. It's incredibly obvious you aren't spending any time at all actually parsing what others arguments are before you reply to them since your replies are basically all irrelevant nonsense. Maybe you should spend more time reading and thinking before you make your way down to that comment box. You'll sound less like a vomiting fucking retard.

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

Yikes. Okay, I know I shouldn't ask this because with every detail you provide I more and more wish I had access to the "horrifying" rating (it's like this is some steath fundraising effort for Null), but what did the kid do to warrant being "punished" by you?

I don't remember. But if he wasn't listening to us, we thought a punishment would teach him what we expected of him. I was only 19 and she was 28. I was very naive in things. I was trying to follow her example and also trying to reinforce obedience in him.

Hooooly fucking hell... It is absolutely impressive how much irrelevant bs you can fixate on. DO YOU AGREE WITH THE DEATH PENALTY BY LASHING OR OTHER MEANS OR NOT?

if I lash you I will not kill you. I do not agree with 40 lashes being the death penalty or equivalent to the death penalty. I believe 40 lashes should be done not too hard, and gently enough only to make the person in pain. Not to make them in excruciating agony that is unbearable and on the brink of death. That would be morally wrong unless they did that to someone else first. If they put someone else through excruciating agony that is unbearable and on the brink of death they deserve the same done to them. otherwise it would be wrong to lash someone to such a point.

 

[Cato]

I don't remember. But if he wasn't listening to us, we thought a punishment would teach him what we expected of him. I was only 19 and she was 28. I was very naive in things. I was trying to follow her example and also trying to reinforce obedience in him.

So pretty much you thought that waterboarding and solitary confinement were appropriate measures to use on a toddler simply for not acting like they were an enlisted solider and you were officers?

Three year olds have a tendency not to listen well...that's certainly a low bar for being "bad" and receiving punishment. I'm glad you are no longer in this child's life or they would grow up to be a serial killer.

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

So pretty much you thought that waterboarding and solitary confinement were appropriate measures to use on a toddler simply for not acting like they were an enlisted solider and you were officers?

Three year olds have a tendency not to listen well...that's certainly a low bar for being "bad" and receiving punishment.

How do you think three year olds should be disciplined if at all? We didn't want to hit him as punishment so we were trying to think what alternatives could we use as punishment without hitting him.

 

[SourDiesel]

if I lash you I will not kill you. I do not agree with 40 lashes being the death penalty or equivalent to the death penalty. I believe 40 lashes should be done not too hard, and gently enough only to make the person in pain. Not to make them in excruciating agony that is unbearable and on the brink of death. That would be morally wrong unless they did that to someone else first. If they put someone else through excruciating agony that is unbearable and on the brink of death they deserve the same done to them. otherwise it would be wrong to lash someone to such a point.

let me write this out in simpler terms so you might understand the question. You seem confused.

Do.
You.
Believe.
In.
The.
Death.
Penalty?

wtf, man?