Avatar: The Last Airbender / The Legend of Korra

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so advanced bending from both series.

Air: learn to fly.

Water: blood bending.

Fire: shoot electricity.

Earth: metal bend, lava bend.

Azula would arguably have had another advanced fire bending technique with the blue flames burn hotter than regular flames bending but that wouldn't have sat well with Ozai being the main antagonist in fire bending for the 1st series with Aang. Disappointed with no advanced air bending used for combat, like they could have made a remove oxygen from the air effecting a certain area as advanced air bending.
At this point just play Fujin in some Mortal Kombat games and do some fatalities if want to see some advanced air bending.

I would really like some characters having demon roots or something similar. Like with the Fire Nation Elite unit (the 3rd eye) or those Ba Sing Se agents. Like Raijin & Fujin
 
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so advanced bending from both series.

Air: learn to fly.

Water: blood bending.

Fire: shoot electricity.

Earth: metal bend, lava bend.

Azula would arguably have had another advanced fire bending technique with the blue flames burn hotter than regular flames bending but that wouldn't have sat well with Ozai being the main antagonist in fire bending for the 1st series with Aang. Disappointed with no advanced air bending used for combat, like they could have made a remove oxygen from the air effecting a certain area as advanced air bending.
Firebending becomes cheapened as an element if an earthbender can lavabend. This never sat right with me.

Also airbenders being able to fly is not a subskill comparable to metalbending or generating electricity, because the former are still airbending. Otherwise you should include that old fuck Bumi being able to earthbend with only his chin - an anomaly among earthbenders -, and whatnot.
 
Firebending becomes cheapened as an element if an earthbender can lavabend. This never sat right with me.

Also airbenders being able to fly is not a subskill comparable to metalbending or generating electricity, because the former are still airbending. Otherwise you should include that old fuck Bumi being able to earthbend with only his chin - an anomaly among earthbenders -, and whatnot.
I think I might have forgotten that Ozai could shoot lightning using 2 hands instead of 1, and that sozin's comet enhances fire bender's capabilities. Maybe Toph and Korra being able to sense where someone is located using the ground might count as an advanced earth bending technique. But air benders got shafted hard because the squirrel suits used later and Ozai flying around using fire as propulsion might have made mockery of Zaheer learning an advanced air bending technique.

Seasons with Aang it was just air, water, fire and earth basics and advanced fire bending to make the adversaries formidable against Aang. Seasons with Korra was advanced water bending adversary, adversary that spirit bends, some advanced air bending and earth bending adversaries, and advanced earth bending adversary as last opponent. There is an Avatar movie coming out next year, and supposedly the continuation of the Avatar series featuring twin earth bending avatars in 2027.
I don't know if they can make an interesting story with multiple seasons with the twins
 
The biggest problem with the last season of the legend of korra was that the writers don't understand politics so they never actually showed Kuvira being bad person outside of mentioning prison camps and showing a few escaped prisoners. This is lazy and the ideology of expelling/killing/imprisoning non-earth people was only shown at the very end, what they fail to address is that Aang was a fucking retard by taking a massive portion of the Earth kingdom (a victim of the war) and making it an internatioal hub instead of doing that in the fire nation. The justification? There are some fire nation settlers in the earth kingdom that you could literally just deport. It's like the writers tried so hard to justify republic cities existence and the only way that could do that was by making the one person who rightullly critized it a nazi.
Makos character was insufferable as fuck and the entire love triangle thing was unmitigated ass, I get that the writeres wanted this to appeal to a teenage audiance or whatever but the audiance in question just made gay incest porn of Mako and Bolin instead because even mentally ill tumblr users weren't interested in that shit. Let's also not forget the last minute lesbian shit with korra and asami that had no good buildup.
 
TBf, Mako has the genes of both styles, so you can argue he is some double bender. Though lavabender is when it became apperant that bending transitioned from an art to a mutant power.
Avatar extras shown during the origin run of ATLA clearly stated that Lavabender was a synergy/dual technique that required both fire and earth styles (mixed martial arts?), which is the reason why Avatars (Roku, Kyoshi, Szeto) were the only ones shown using it. It was retconned by Bryke for the purpose of giving the ability to non-Avater benders whenever they want.
 

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I could sorta buy lavabending when it was shown to be done by rapid spinning of rocks to create heat and melt them into magma but even that's pushing it (actual magma still requires application of intense temperature in real life). But it just became complete nonsense when they later showed earthbenders creating lava out of ordinary earth almost instantly. I'm not even gonna get into how retarded Bolin being able to cool down molten rock created by lavabending is because even if you assume the method I described above for making it, there's no way of reversing the process that doesn't require an earthbender to also have mastery over waterbending or airbending.
Oh right, the gary stu character.
I'm gonna be honest; Bolin was way better.
Bolin was the one that learned lavabending...somehow. Mako is the one that knew to lightningbend although that's less Gary Stuish because Legend of Korra showed that almost every random Tom, Dick and Harry could do it not just Mako.
 
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The biggest problem with the last season of the legend of korra was that the writers don't understand politics so they never actually showed Kuvira being bad person outside of mentioning prison camps and showing a few escaped prisoners. This is lazy and the ideology of expelling/killing/imprisoning non-earth people was only shown at the very end, what they fail to address is that Aang was a fucking retard by taking a massive portion of the Earth kingdom (a victim of the war) and making it an internatioal hub instead of doing that in the fire nation. The justification? There are some fire nation settlers in the earth kingdom that you could literally just deport. It's like the writers tried so hard to justify republic cities existence and the only way that could do that was by making the one person who rightullly critized it a nazi.
Makos character was insufferable as fuck and the entire love triangle thing was unmitigated ass, I get that the writeres wanted this to appeal to a teenage audiance or whatever but the audiance in question just made gay incest porn of Mako and Bolin instead because even mentally ill tumblr users weren't interested in that shit. Let's also not forget the last minute lesbian shit with korra and asami that had no good buildup.
Writers accidentally wrote 'what if MacArthur had partitioned China instead of occupying Japan' Which is so many different flavors of stupid.
 
The biggest problem with the last season of the legend of korra was that the writers don't understand politics so they never actually showed Kuvira being bad person outside of mentioning prison camps and showing a few escaped prisoners. This is lazy and the ideology of expelling/killing/imprisoning non-earth people was only shown at the very end, what they fail to address is that Aang was a fucking retard by taking a massive portion of the Earth kingdom (a victim of the war) and making it an internatioal hub instead of doing that in the fire nation. The justification? There are some fire nation settlers in the earth kingdom that you could literally just deport. It's like the writers tried so hard to justify republic cities existence and the only way that could do that was by making the one person who rightullly critized it a nazi.
Makos character was insufferable as fuck and the entire love triangle thing was unmitigated ass, I get that the writeres wanted this to appeal to a teenage audiance or whatever but the audiance in question just made gay incest porn of Mako and Bolin instead because even mentally ill tumblr users weren't interested in that shit. Let's also not forget the last minute lesbian shit with korra and asami that had no good buildup.
It was explained in the comics that industries had sprang from fire-benders and earth-benders working together and many had intermarried between the two nations making separating families and businesses an unpopular and controversial proposal. It was not as easy as telling the fire-benders to leave.

As for Kuvira, she was written rather badly. She acted like Hitler because they wanted to draw parallels between the two, not because it made sense. She was evil because she was written that way rather than it made sense. She had concentration camps because she is a dictator, not because it made sense. There was no point to have such things. There were barely any non-earth-benders in the empire. If she kept her prison labor to bandits, she would barely face any backlash. But she had to have an expansionistic empire like Hitler because she is Hitler, she had to be racist like Hitler because she is Hitler. They wrote a Hitler without understanding what went in the creation of the original. What we are left with is Hitler without substance.
 
The justification? There are some fire nation settlers in the earth kingdom that you could literally just deport. It's like the writers tried so hard to justify republic cities existence and the only way that could do that was by making the one person who rightullly critized it a nazi.
I'm probably biased but why would the fire nation people should be deported from the colonies that they likely lived at their entire lives? I doubt there were no wars previously that changed the global borders.
 
I'm probably biased but why would the fire nation people should be deported from the colonies that they likely lived at their entire lives? I doubt there were no wars previously that changed the global borders.
They should've been deported because they obviously stole the homes of those within the previous earth kingdom, they have no right to the land that they claim to own. If someone steals your car and has it for a few years why would the government let them keep it once they're proven guilty?
It was explained in the comics that industries had sprang from fire-benders and earth-benders working together and many had intermarried between the two nations making separating families and businesses an unpopular and controversial proposal. It was not as easy as telling the fire-benders to leave.
Then you force the fire benders to pay additional taxes to the earth kingdom government as part of the war reparations that the fire nation itself would pay. Additionally you don't just carve out a massive chunk of the earth kingdom and make a new nation out of it that's literally just begging for a war to start and cause internal issues with the earth bender populace.
They wrote a Hitler without understanding what went in the creation of the original. What we are left with is Hitler without substance.
Kuvira started out as a client fascist that was supposed to serve the interests of rich assholes like Varrick but the writers decided to change her over to a nationalistic fasicst because it's easier to villanzie her that way and not the "funny" character that we're supposed to kinda like but denounce his bad actions towards mako. This is the start of the problem because Hitler literally served the interests of industrialists and so did almost every fasicst in history ever and they failed to follow through with this in her storyline. Her nationalistic fascism era was even more garbage, if you're gonna depict a fascist like that then you should show the propaganda Kuvira would have pumped out and you should show how it's messing with the minds of earth kingdom citizens. Like you could have a scene where the airbenders are trying to give aid to a town but get booed at and kicked out for not being "of the earth" and all that. As for the concentraion camps, they are literally shoved into like what the last 2 episodes? Sure they were mentioned earlier but all they said was that "dissenters are being put in prision" or whatever the fuck which just sounds like a journalist from CNN wrote that line with how vauge it is. Also, the Kuvira storyline really should've been 2 seasons and that wunderwaffe spirit lazer shit should've either been scraped or shoved back to the second season with a rumor of its development in the last epsiode of the first half of the storyline. I could literally write an outline for those 2 seasons rn and I promise it would be better because I actually passed a college level english class and understand politics.
 
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I think the easy answer is that Republic City was created on Earth Kingdom territory is because it has by far the largest landmass under its control out of any of the four (well, three) nations. The more complicated answer is that it was created specifically to have a place where the four nations could co-mingle and thus alleviate some of the hostilities built up after the war and if I remember the comics correctly, it was created with the full consent of all participating nations and was essentially a last resort after all other options had been exhausted.

I'm more curious as to why the Industrial Revolution seems to have been limited almost exclusively to Republic City. If you're going to ape the "20th century Westernized Asia" aesthetic at least keep it consistent. There's no reason for Republic City to be stuck in 1920s while Ba Sing Se appears stuck in the 1500s.
 
They should've been deported because they obviously stole the homes of those within the previous earth kingdom, they have no right to the land that they claim to own. If someone steals your car and has it for a few years why would the government let them keep it once they're proven guilty?
It's been 100 years, it's more like a native American goes to your parents house and says it belonged to his tribe before they were forced out.
 
It's been 100 years, it's more like a native American goes to your parents house and says it belonged to his tribe before they were forced out.
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Then you force the fire benders to pay additional taxes to the earth kingdom government as part of the war reparations that the fire nation itself would pay. Additionally you don't just carve out a massive chunk of the earth kingdom and make a new nation out of it that's literally just begging for a war to start and cause internal issues with the earth bender populace.
@ArthuriusMartyrius It makes more sense for there to be "international cities" established across all of the kingdoms and maybe one made in the air islands.
 
They should've been deported because they obviously stole the homes of those within the previous earth kingdom, they have no right to the land that they claim to own. If someone steals your car and has it for a few years why would the government let them keep it once they're proven guilty?
That was conquest. That has happened a lot in human history. Every country has conquered or was conquered at some point. Should the English go and expel the people of French descent? Should the Greeks expel those of Roman descent? It socks when it happens but it is human nature and history.

Then you force the fire benders to pay additional taxes to the earth kingdom government as part of the war reparations that the fire nation itself would pay. Additionally you don't just carve out a massive chunk of the earth kingdom and make a new nation out of it that's literally just begging for a war to start and cause internal issues with the earth bender populace.
Yeah, create inequality as part of the law and watch as Apartheid creates unrest and breeds resentment. Also, how will the people that are of mixed descent get treated? And do not forget, the culture in those territories has changed over the years into something that does not resemble the old Earth-Kingdom, meaning that returning the territories to the original owner is no different than conquering them again and stripping them of their culture once more. That would create infinite more problems than it would ever solve.
 
And do not forget, the culture in those territories has changed over the years into something that does not resemble the old Earth-Kingdom, meaning that returning the territories to the original owner is no different than conquering them again and stripping them of their culture once more. That would create infinite more problems than it would ever solve.
The land belongs to the earth kingdom that's all there is to it, if you're going to take the earth kingdoms land and make it some international territory then you should to the same thing to the other kingdoms in order for it to not seem like a blatant attempt at colonizing them. Also, the culture changing doesn't mean anything the other parts of the earth kingdom have totally different cultures but are still under its control.
Yeah, create inequality as part of the law and watch as Apartheid creates unrest and breeds resentment. Also, how will the people that are of mixed descent get treated?
Again, it's like the argument to pay reparations to Natives/Niggers a century after the fact by people who were just as disfranchised but actually made their living conditions better.
Actually a valid point, I retract that statement; it would be better to just have the fire nation itself pay the war reparations and have said reparations go to the earth kingdom and have the earth kingdom give a portion of it to those of earth kingdom decent (mixed included) all around the world. The reason why you would give it to the earth kingdom is because they would have the census records to properly hand out the money.
That was conquest. That has happened a lot in human history. Every country has conquered or was conquered at some point. Should the English go and expel the people of French descent? Should the Greeks expel those of Roman descent? It socks when it happens but it is human nature and history.
In my eyes the policy of deportation after having been conquered should extend to the first generation of settlers only. Once you get a substantial number of second gens (like 10% or 15% of the settler population) you really shouldn't do the deportations.
 
The land belongs to the earth kingdom that's all there is to it, if you're going to take the earth kingdoms land and make it some international territory then you should to the same thing to the other kingdoms in order for it to not seem like a blatant attempt at colonizing them. Also, the culture changing doesn't mean anything the other parts of the earth kingdom have totally different cultures but are still under its control.
Actually, that was not the case. The Earth Kingdom had abandoned a lot of these territories to their fate and most were basically independent in all but paper. The city of Ban Sing Se was the only truly safe and controlled region. Kuvira sold the dream of a truly united connected Earth Kingdom and many bought it for this reason.

Actually a valid point, I retract that statement; it would be better to just have the fire nation itself pay the war reparations and have said reparations go to the earth kingdom and have the earth kingdom give a portion of it to those of earth kingdom decent (mixed included) all around the world. The reason why you would give it to the earth kingdom is because they would have the census records to properly hand out the money.
To an extend that did happen. The Fire Nation did foot the bill for the modernization and rebuilding of the world.

In my eyes the policy of deportation after having been conquered should extend to the first generation of settlers only. Once you get a substantial number of second gens (like 10% or 15% of the settler population) you really shouldn't do the deportations.
It is not that easy. After the war, people had to rebuild their lives. Imagine having to go in the red because many of your investors, partners, customers and workers got deported for their ethnicity. You cannot rebuild your country like that. Not by gutting institutions that the people themselves created and like.
 
It is not that easy. After the war, people had to rebuild their lives. Imagine having to go in the red because many of your investors, partners, customers and workers got deported for their ethnicity. You cannot rebuild your country like that. Not by gutting institutions that the people themselves created and like.
The thing is though, by the time those institutions were made the second gen population would have already exceeded 10% or 15% of the settler population (I define second gen as the first batch of people born in the settlement). Realistically speaking here by the time the level of integration you speak of comes around they already would've met the qualifications I stated, and since in the Earth kingdoms case the fire nation occupied those territories for 100 years they absolutely would've met it.
Actually, that was not the case. The Earth Kingdom had abandoned a lot of these territories to their fate and most were basically independent in all but paper. The city of Ban Sing Se was the only truly safe and controlled region. Kuvira sold the dream of a truly united connected Earth Kingdom and many bought it for this reason.
The earth kingdom did have a history of division but it was a pretty consistent theme within the story that it always ended up unifying. I feel like this was the writers attempt at making the Earth kingdom the China of that world in a way with the Fire nation functioning as Japan (idk what the water and air nations are supposed to be). The Earth Kingdom had every right to want all of its land back.
 
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