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Should be a wild four years.

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You may be dumber than the actual Johnny Bravo character. If you don't want to click on a groyper, just watch Trump speak for himself.
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If you want the United States to turn into a big economic zone that excuses slave labor because it's more profitable than paying people a living wage, please endorse this train of thought Donald Trump is clumsily exploring. Don't forget your award.
If you actually watch Johnny Bravo, he’s quite smart. He just acts like a retard. He even defeated a computer at chess.
 
VIOLENCE ERUPTING: Antifa thugs in downtown Seattle are now grabbing furniture from nearby patios and using it to build a street blockade. Look at this courageous immigrant-rights attorney confronting a militant, preventing him from stealing a planter.

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Late, but not to powerlevel, a close relative of mine works at that building and has security footage of all their furniture being raided and used for this. Spray painted their escalators too.
 
This is bullshit. Lots of young men in this country would be perfectly happy harvesting crops. Provided they got paid enough to buy their pick up truck, take their girl to a nice dinner, buy some beer and eventually get a house to put the girl in and raise children.

But that is not the economy we have. Because the economy we have is still reliant on slave labor.

Again I reminded of my autistic obsession with the song "battle cry of freedom". There is a very powerful line it.

"We will welcome to our ranks, all the loyal true and brave. Shouting the battle cry of freedom! And although he may be poor, not a man shall be a slave. Shouting the battle cry of Freedom! The Union forever, hurrah boys hurrah! Down with the traitor and up with the star! As we rally 'round the flag boys, rally once again, Shouting the battle cry of freedom!
All the hippie talk of automating everything goes out the window if you just pay your damn workers and treat them like a human being. No fire and hire bullshit. You hire them and you stick with your guys. No pushing them out because they wanted some water or to take a piss. I know guys that do that to their illegals. It's why they have them. The mindset needs to shift. You need to be loyal to your farmhands, not just throw them away and drive them like a rented mule.
 
Most farms don't have that gay high tech shit my man. That is some hippie shit. Have any of you seen a farm before?
LMAO have you? Farms are filled with high tech shit. You realize that bigger farms have multiple autopilot tractors that seed and harvest for them every year right? In fact it's a big complaint by smaller farmers who rely on equipment they can fix themselves, and the ones that can get halted by companies like John Deere forcing them to send their tractor in for expensive repair (similarly to how Apple operates). It's too much software for old geezers to mess with.

I grew up in Illinois where all you see is corn or soybeans to the horizon for miles, don't think farmers dumb just because they're rural. Most agriculture majors in college are very heavily technology focused.
 
Scoop: U.S. told Israel it won't participate in an Israeli strike on Iran
Axios (archive.ph)
By Barak Ravid
2025-06-12 21:36:17GMT
The Trump administration told the Israeli government the U.S. won't be directly involved in any Israeli military strike against Iran's nuclear facilities, two U.S. sources and an Israeli source familiar with those discussions tell Axios.

Why it matters: Officials in the U.S., Israel and Iran are all preparing for a scenario where U.S.-Iran nuclear talks collapse, Israel orders waves of strikes on Iran, and Iran retaliates by attacking Israel and U.S. bases in the region — possibly all within the next week or so.
  • President Trump confirmed Thursday that Israeli strikes "might very well happen."
Privately, the administration has informed Israel that would be a solo mission, not a joint operation, at least in terms of bombing and other offensive kinetic activity.
  • The sources did not say whether the U.S. would provide assistance in terms of intelligence or logistics, such as with aerial refueling.
  • The U.S. would almost certainly help Israel defend itself from Iranian retaliation, as it has during past Iranian attacks.
Zoom in: While Israel could cause significant damage to Iran's nuclear program, an Israeli operation would be more limited than one involving U.S. participation.
  • Israel's air force doesn't have B-2 or B-52 bombers that can carry the massive bunker buster bombs that would likely be needed to hit Iran's Fordow underground uranium enrichment facility, which is built deep inside a mountain.
  • Israel would likely attempt to repeatedly strike the same targets over the course of multiple days in order to damage Iran's underground sites. Analysts are divided on the likelihood of success.
State of play: Iran has vowed to strike U.S. targets in the region in the event of any attack on its nuclear program.
Driving the news: The Pentagon canceled on Thursday a planned visit to Israel this weekend by CENTCOM commander Gen. Erik Kurilla, a U.S. official said.
  • The cancellation of the visit was another sign that the U.S. doesn't want to be seen as cooperating with an Israeli strike against Iran.
  • The White House and the Israeli embassy in Washington declined to comment.
What they're saying: Trump told reporters Thursday that he doesn't want to say an Israeli strike "is imminent," but it might happen.
  • Trump stressed he wants to avoid conflict but said that will require concessions that Iran has been unwilling to make.
  • He added that so long as there's a chance of a deal, he doesn't want Israel to do anything to "blow it."
Between the lines: Trump's remarks urging Israel not to attack while talks are taking place wasn't coordinated with the Israeli government, according to a U.S. source familiar.
State of play: Israeli officials say the Israel Defense Forces are on high alert and preparing to strike Iran quickly if White House envoy Steve Witkoff's diplomacy fails this weekend.
  • Witkoff will meet Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi on Sunday in Oman to discuss Iran's response to the U.S. nuclear deal proposal.
  • That meeting, and the U.S. assessment of whether there's still a path to a deal, could determine whether diplomacy continues or conflict begins.
Tensions explode on House floor over Padilla incident
Axios (archive.ph)
By Andrew Solender
2025-06-12 21:32:48GMT
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Rep. John Mannion at a House Education and Workforce Committee hearing at the U.S. Capitol on Feb. 5 (left) and Rep. Mike Lawler outside a House Republican conference meeting at the U.S. Capitol on June 4 (right). Photos: Bill Clark and Tom Williams/CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images.

Rep. John Mannion (D-N.Y.) shocked colleagues in both parties Thursday by tearing into Rep. Mike Lawler (R-N.Y.) in what sources described as a tense and profane confrontation over the forcible removal of Sen. Alex Padilla (D-Calif.).

Why it matters: Lawmakers and aides who witnessed the Mannion-Lawler incident described it to Axios as the product of rising partisan tensions over the Trump administration's use of legal and physical force against Democrats.
  • "The temperature is rising in here. There's a lot of unnecessary comments being thrown around, insinuations," said Rep. Julie Johnson (D-Texas).
  • "What we're seeing with the actions of this administration is out of control, and Republicans aren't doing anything to reign it in. Tempers are flaring."
What happened: As Lawler was speaking to Rep. Jimmy Panetta (D-Calif.) on the Democratic side of the floor, Mannion began shouting at his fellow New Yorker, multiple sources who saw the interaction told Axios.
  • "Mannion stands up and just starts yelling at him for absolutely no reason but emotion about the atmosphere that we're in right now," said one House Democrat who was standing close by.
  • The lawmaker said Mannion told Lawler "something to the effect of, 'You've got to do something. Stand up. Grow a pair of balls.'"
  • Lawler's response, they said: "F*** you ... I have no idea what you're talking about."
The intrigue: Just before the vote, Mannion had a similar outburst during a press conference on the House steps regarding the Padilla incident.
  • "We need you," he shouted at the press. "We need you to hold them accountable. Media, it's your country too."
  • "Don't cover the distractions. Cover the actions that lead us towards authoritarianism, please."
What they're saying: "I asked him to compel his colleagues to save the country and stop what the people of this country do not want ... the defiance of law," Mannion told Axios of his comments to Lawler.
  • He added: "Mike Lawler and I served in the state legislature. He knows well enough."
  • Lawler said in a post on X: "John Mannion was entirely unhinged and unprofessional. That was a shameful display that exposed his complete lack of temperament."
  • "No wonder numerous staffers have previously alleged a toxic work environment. He should go seek help for anger management — and f*** off," Lawler added.
State of play: Padilla was pushed to the ground and handcuffed by Department of Homeland Security officers after trying to confront DHS Secretary Kristi Noem at a press conference in Los Angeles.
  • The incident comes just a day after Rep. LaMonica McIver (D-N.J.) was indicted by the Trump administration for allegedly assaulting law enforcement outside an ICE facility in her state, which she denies.
  • A staffer for Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) was also handcuffed and briefly detained by a DHS officer at the congressman's New York City office last month.
  • After the incident at Nadler's office, House Administration Committee ranking member Joe Morelle (D-N.Y.) sent congressional offices a letter advising them to "exercise control of your physical space" and ask law enforcement for a warrant.
What we're hearing: "People are so on edge," a senior House Democrat told Axios of the blowup between Mannion and Lawler.
  • "This floor is raw ... People think they are going to come in and arrest people on the floor," the lawmaker added. "
  • Rep. Maxwell Frost (D-Fla.), a member of Democratic leadership, described the mood on the floor as "very tense."
  • Rep. Blake Moore (R-Utah), the vice chair of the House Republican conference, told Axios: "We cannot let the tinderbox that's going on right now ... continue. We need to have a peaceful weekend."
The bottom line: As Mannion was walking out of the Capitol, Panetta turned to him and asked, "What are you doing?"
  • "My own thing," Mannion replied with a slight shrug.
  • Panetta said in response: "Apparently, man."
 
Yeah, no. McCarthy ruined a lot of actors/actresses' lives and careers from the Golden Age of Hollywood. I see nothing different here from McCarthyism. The methods are the same.
Yeah there were no communists in Hollywood:
I know Razorfist gets a lot of shit here but his rants on this topic are really solid. He also covers how McCarthy was not responsible for what you have been conned into believing he was...I think it is around eight minutes where he talks about that topic.

I want to point out that this is not a poke at you because tons of people especially those of a certain age were totally bamboozled. My father cannot be convinced that McCarthy, a senator, had nothing to do with a committee in the other chamber of Congress.
 
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All the hippie talk of automating everything goes out the window if you just pay your damn workers and treat them like a human being. No fire and hire bullshit. You hire them and you stick with your guys. No pushing them out because they wanted some water or to take a piss. I know guys that do that to their illegals. It's why they have them. The mindset needs to shift. You need to be loyal to your farmhands, not just throw them away and drive them like a rented mule.
The berry harvesting machine is cool and all but I don't want every part of life automated by a machine. That's fucking depressing and souless, America is already too nihilistic as it is without more and more machines replacing human work.
 
LMAO have you? Farms are filled with high tech shit. You realize that bigger farms have multiple autopilot tractors that seed and harvest for them every year right? In fact it's a big complaint by smaller farmers who rely on equipment they can fix themselves, and the ones that can get halted by companies like John Deere forcing them to send their tractor in for expensive repair (similarly to how Apple operates). It's too much software for old geezers to mess with.

I grew up in Illinois where all you see is corn or soybeans to the horizon for miles, don't think farmers dumb just because they're rural. Most agriculture majors in college are very heavily technology focused.
Motherfucker I lived in Illinois, shut the fuck up. Dad would take me to the farm show every year to get a day off school. They have tech. It's ridiculously expensive for most of the small fries. Manual labor is in high demand retard. Machines aren't taking over even with them.
We mostly do corn and soybeans where I live. Everyone uses a tractor and a combine harvester for harvest.
You still need people though. It's not this wireless skynet bullshit you technerds are selling.
 
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Trump did it for Modi too, is Trump India's bitch?
It's over, Trump will import 100 million Indians. Trump was also quoted as saying: "Indians are great, just look how they made Canada great again. America needs more good and great workers. Indians are hard, honest workers that will make America EVEN GREATER!!"

But honestly, how can't people realise that being extra nice to someone like preparing a chair can greatly improve someones fondness for you, especially during a negotiation. It is as if these people have never worked an actual job. Basic common decency is just: 1. Begin with nice banter, 2. prepare a chair, 3. ask if they want coffee, 4. give them something to drink, 5. begin business talks. Just by doing those things you already have gotten extra leeway to negotiate more in your favor, art of the deal.
 
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I saw this and I really resonated with it, as a lot of 80's/90's kids do. It reminds me a lot of the reaction people had during the Gamestop stock hold, I remember the one 4chan post about a kid who saw his dad's business fall apart during the '08 crisis and he succumbed to alcoholism and death while the banks got away with less than a slap. Same situation here, and it also doesn't take years to learn how to roof, faggot.
If uneducated Mexicans can do it, literally anyone can. They are easily the stupidest people on the planet, there is no excuses for ever hiring them
 
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