US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
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[Irene and 22 others]

Oh thank god fatpacks is here I was worried that this might actually be a thing for an instant

But how do we know it's the same Fatpacks and not some other glowie using his account?

 

[gagabobo1997]

I think a potential way to spin this or make compromises would be to bump the farm slaves to the back of the list (Trump already said criminals are at the front of the list) and give a stern warning that you have x amount of time to replace them with Americans or face the music. But I'm just some retard on a tranny killing website

immigrant workers harm US citizens far, far more than immigrant criminals. even with cartel thugs you have a relatively low chance of being murdered or robbed in the US. but hundreds of thousands of Americans can't get jobs because of immigrant workers.

 

[LillyTheBestGirl]

It's over.

Then nothing should stop you from killing yourself, right? Just end it, bro, end the suffering.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

Yeah Im not buying the 'hurr durr, you need manual labor".
Eli Whitney invented the cotton gin in 1794. With AI and modern machinery, we can innovate and drive the cost down.

Manual labor won't go away, but some of the sperging sounds more like dooming rather than finding a solution.

 

[Wash away the rain]

Before autists sperged about computers, they sperged about trains. And before they sperged about trains, they sperged about horses.
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Embrace tradition.

Wait a minute what do trains, computers, horses have in common speed (computers for speed of thought) what else do autismos like that goes fast sonic it all makes sense now.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

She created a production company in 2009 with her amassed billions with the sole purpose of creating a film adaptation of Bless me, Ultima, some Chicano novel I don't know enough about to comment on,

What is up with that flag?

Why does it look like the Nazi flag?

 

[Eekum Bokum]

Gotta put this here.

And with a possible avatar.
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Gotta love the new tack: BUT MEXICO OWNED IT FIRST!

Yeah, for like 20 years.

Their argument is basically "Well, this dude owned your house a 100 years ago, so give it back to his family."

I know I'm behind but this argument they make is perhaps the most retarded argument I have ever heard. Based on their logic the East coast of America should go back to Britain, The center should go back to France, the entirety of central and south America should go back to Spain and Portugal and all of Africa barring Ethiopia needs to go back to the European powers.

It's just another example of the left's "this works for me but doesn't for you" rulebook. When someone says that just laugh in their face.

 

[Oulun]

At the end of the day, I would rather have no blueberries and no illegals than an unending stream of them both.

 

[Zoot]

Yeah Im not buying the 'hurr durr, you need manual labor". With AI and modern machinery, we can innovate and drive the cost down.

Manual labor won't go away, but some of the sperging sounds more liking dooming than finding a solution.

or just do less stuff. Oh no there aren't enough hotel workers or dishwashers. Alright, well we don't need as many hotels or restaurants, as there are 30 million fewer people in the country, so it doesn't matter.

 

[Ass to Ass]

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/12/israel-strike-iran-us-not-participate

https://archive.is/4YhWF

The Trump administration told the Israeli government the U.S. won't be directly involved in any Israeli military strike against Iran's nuclear facilities, two U.S. sources and an Israeli source familiar with those discussions tell Axios.

Why it matters: Officials in the U.S., Israel and Iran are all preparing for a scenario where U.S.-Iran nuclear talks collapse, Israel orders waves of strikes on Iran, and Iran retaliates by attacking Israel and U.S. bases in the region — possibly all within the next week or so.

President Trump confirmed Thursday that Israeli strikes "might very well happen."
Privately, the administration has informed Israel that would be a solo mission, not a joint operation, at least in terms of bombing and other offensive kinetic activity.

The sources did not say whether the U.S. would provide assistance in terms of intelligence or logistics, such as with aerial refueling.
The U.S. would almost certainly help Israel defend itself from Iranian retaliation, as it has during past Iranian attacks.
Zoom in: While Israel could cause significant damage to Iran's nuclear program, an Israeli operation would be more limited than one involving U.S. participation.

Israel's air force doesn't have B-2 or B-52 bombers that can carry the massive bunker buster bombs that would likely be needed to hit Iran's Fordow underground uranium enrichment facility, which is built deep inside a mountain. Israel would likely attempt to repeatedly strike the same targets over the course of multiple days in order to damage Iran's underground sites. Analysts are divided on the likelihood of success.

State of play: Iran has vowed to strike U.S. targets in the region in the event of any attack on its nuclear program.

The U.S. is in the process of withdrawing diplomats and military families who could be in harm's way.
Driving the news: The Pentagon canceled on Thursday a planned visit to Israel this weekend by CENTCOM commander Gen. Erik Kurilla, a U.S. official said.

The cancellation of the visit was another sign that the U.S. doesn't want to be seen as cooperating with an Israeli strike against Iran.
The White House and the Israeli embassy in Washington declined to comment.
What they're saying: Trump told reporters Thursday that he doesn't want to say an Israeli strike "is imminent," but it might happen.

Trump stressed he wants to avoid conflict but said that will require concessions that Iran has been unwilling to make.
He added that so long as there's a chance of a deal, he doesn't want Israel to do anything to "blow it."
Between the lines: Trump's remarks urging Israel not to attack while talks are taking place wasn't coordinated with the Israeli government, according to a U.S. source familiar.

Israel previously assured the White House it wouldn't move unless the talks fail, as Axios reported last week.
State of play: Israeli officials say the Israel Defense Forces are on high alert and preparing to strike Iran quickly if White House envoy Steve Witkoff's diplomacy fails this weekend.

Witkoff will meet Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi on Sunday in Oman to discuss Iran's response to the U.S. nuclear deal proposal.
That meeting, and the U.S. assessment of whether there's still a path to a deal, could determine whether diplomacy continues or conflict begins.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

This is bullshit. Lots of young men in this country would be perfectly happy harvesting crops. Provided they got paid enough to buy their pick up truck, take their girl to a nice dinner, buy some beer and eventually get a house to put the girl in and raise children.

But that is not the economy we have. Because the economy we have is still reliant on slave labor.

Again I reminded of my autistic obsession with the song "battle cry of freedom". There is a very powerful line it.

"We will welcome to our ranks, all the loyal true and brave. Shouting the battle cry of freedom! And although he may be poor, not a man shall be a slave. Shouting the battle cry of Freedom! The Union forever, hurrah boys hurrah! Down with the traitor and up with the star! As we rally 'round the flag boys, rally once again, Shouting the battle cry of freedom!

not every job is going to pay the 50s dreams of a house and family. you couldn't point to a time in us history where being a picker paid anything more than a shed and a hogmaw

 

[gagabobo1997]

Crops that actually feed people and animals, things like corn, wheat, etc. are all almost entirely farmed with huge machines and don't need as much immigrant labor.
Fruits are great, and are probably my favorite food group, but I would pay $40 for a box of strawberries if it meant I never had to see a spic or chink in my life ever again.

 

[mindlessobserver]

To prevent these harmful impacts, I hereby revoke the Presidential Memorandum of September 27, 2023. Further, within 15 days of the date of this memorandum, the Secretary of Energy, the Secretary of the Interior, the Secretary of Commerce, and the Assistant Secretary of the Army for Civil Works under the direction of the Secretary of the Army (heads of departments) shall take all appropriate steps to withdraw from the Memorandum of Understanding filed on December 14, 2023, in the Columbia River System litigation, National Wildlife Federation v. National Marine Fisheries Service, 3:01-cv-640-SI (D. Or.), Dkt. 2450-1 (MOU).

This is the big one here folks. The Federal Government has just seized control of the entire watershed of the west coast. Oregon, Washington and California have just been told to shove it. Washington DC is in charge. No more "Understandings" and court settlements.

 

[clickbait]

I know I'm behind but this argument they make is perhaps the most retarded argument I have ever heard. Based on their logic the East coast of America should go back to Britain, The center should go back to France, the entirety of central and south America should go back to Spain and Portugal and all of Africa barring Ethiopia needs to go back to the European powers.

It's just another example of the left's "this works for me but doesn't for you" rulebook. When someone says that just laugh in their face.

Ok but who owned France and Britain before? It should go back to them.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Then nothing should stop you from killing yourself, right? Just end it, bro, end the suffering.

If I didn't an hero myself even with the generous state assisted suicide in Canada, and this is Canada where things are pretty much finished and we are just waiting on the doom part, there is no chance I will do it now. I will live til the bitter end.

NEVER SURRENDER.

 

[Mister Fister]

Ok but who owned France and Britain before? It should go back to them.

EUROPE AND THE MIDDLE EAST SHALL RETURN TO ROME!

 

[WelperHelper99]

This is the big one here folks. The Federal Government has just seized control of the entire watershed of the west coast. Oregon, Washington and California have just been told to shove it. Washington DC is in charge. No more "Understandings" and court settlements.

The SPICE WATER must flow!

 

[gagabobo1997]

My only hope is that Homan or Vance or someone convinces Trump that carving out (even temporary) exemptions for 'hard workers' is absolutely backwards and retarded policy when White Americans want mass deportations. I don't have particularly high hopes, though.

 

[mindlessobserver]

If I didn't an hero myself even with the generous state assisted suicide in Canada, and this is Canada where things are pretty much finished and we are just waiting on the doom part, there is no chance I will do it now. I will live til the bitter end.

NEVER SURRENDER.

Once we've dealt with the beaners, we will fix the mistake made by the Scottish and the French that made Canada separate from the Union.

 

[BullfrogBill]

At the end of the day, I would rather have no blueberries and no illegals than an unending stream of them both.

At the end of the day you can just plant your own blueberry seeds depending on your region lol The seeds are cheap shit.