2025 Israel vs Iran War

The absolute bizarre thing about this all is that Hezbullah and Hamas have the greatest opportunity of all to bomb the fuck out of Israel while all defences are out of sync and they're not. No wonder Israel can outsmart 99% of the Middle East when they're fighting absolute retards.
Well, yeah. The IDF is unironically a dog shit military who can't do anything beyond shoot kids with rocks (and even then that's too much sometimes), but they're a fuck load better than any Arab military who refuse to train and instead believe they'll only win if Allah decides they should win.
 
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Tinfoil hat time, but I get the feeling that Iran also wanted the two generals & that CoS gone too, hence the absurdly precise strikes on those three sandniggers.

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General Gabagool when?
 
@Historical Strelkov I gave it a read and it just says the USA funds Israelis DEFENSIVE capabilities (anti rocket systems, iron dome etc). I see nothing about the USA giving Israel bombs and airplanes for free.


Look if you want to be against that, then I think that's stupid because all you are causing is more civilian deaths. But whatever, I'm still right.
 
Well, yeah. The IDF is unironically a dog shit military who can't do anything beyond shoot kids with rocks (and even then that's too much sometimes), but they're a fuck load better than any Arab military who refuse to train and instead believe they'll only win if Allah decides they should win.
>"If Allah wants us to win, then we'll win!"
>proceed to lose almost every modern conventional battle against infidels
>What did allah mean by this?
 
Israel is playing a zero sum game with biblical enemies?
war is one of the few true and honest zero sum games isn't it? whatever helps one side hurts the other and vice versa. complaining about fairness in war is really weird tbh outside a few particular and very specific exceptions like disguising your soldiers in enemy uniforms. even that is technically okay so long as they identify themselves .1 seconds before opening up
 
Why can't you just admit that the Israelis have the upper hand "by means of deception" and so they are taking advantage?
It's like you're so disrespectful about it, that you can't even admit that this is all done because Israel is playing a zero sum game with biblical enemies?
Is it because most antisemitic people never bothered to open the Torah? Then yeah I can see how they "deserve it".
Half the reason the world is annoyed with Israel is because they claim victimhood when everyone knows they've got the best gear, tons of money, tons of investments in foreign enterprises, and leverage in the governments of diaspora countries.
I think people would respect that a lot more than "but we're spending your money on the rust belt" like thats cool buddy, but that literally only serves you. The money is just going in a circle, and the product goes to you.
Foregoing the idea that it isn't extremely advantageous that Israel's defense industries are located on an entirely different continent, and manned by a larger population whose economy can be harnessed.
Just admit the real perspective, that Israel is going to do whatever it wants, because they think they're smarter than everyone lol. Why is that so hard?
You're literally just trying to find a reason to be mad, especially when this use of aid is not only not even the least egregious compared some of the fiascos like Afghanistan or Ukraine, but doesn't even end up being used against our own people, like the Pakistanis do. It's hard to take you seriously when you ignore such blatantly obvious exploitation of American taxpayers by truly corrupt regimes and hyperfocus on Israel, despite the fact that their aid conditions are incredibly strict by comparison. Moreover, it clouds your perception and makes you think that the Israelis are somehow way more reliant on US military support than they actually are.

I sincerely hope you get some help or at least chill out and touch some grass, this isn't that serious.
 
@Historical Strelkov I gave it a read and it just says the USA funds Israelis DEFENSIVE capabilities (anti rocket systems, iron dome etc). I see nothing about the USA giving Israel bombs and airplanes for free.


Look if you want to be against that, then I think that's stupid because all you are causing is more civilian deaths. But whatever, I'm still right.
I guess the argument against this would be that by propping up Israel defensively it allows them to invest offensively, meaning they can strike out in situations where otherwise diplomacy would have been preferred, thereby prolonging and escalating hostility and as a result that is actually causing more civilian deaths.

I don't care personally because I'm not an American and as far I'm concerned the US can fund whatever or whoever it wants, but I could see that being the argument.
 
The absolute bizarre thing about this all is that Hezbullah and Hamas have the greatest opportunity of all to bomb the fuck out of Israel while all defences are out of sync and they're not. No wonder Israel can outsmart 99% of the Middle East when they're fighting absolute retards.
They spend more time doing PR with Western leftists (Who would be up against the wall right after they're finished with the Jews) than they do building a half-decent military.
 
@Historical Strelkov
Are you fucking retarded? Serious question.

This entire situation can be boiled down their being no other option because a country says they want to remove you from the planet, has taken previous steps to do it (I.E proxy wars), and is capable of having nuclear bombs in the next 1-5 years refuses to negoiate with anyone.
Iran is a walking human rights violation just by themselves, let alone trying to get nukes.
I'd have more symphony for fucking North Korea.

At some point, you just have kill the guy trying to kill you and I doubt they'll even do that.
 
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