2025 Israel vs Iran War

[soy_king]

Jordan threw its weight in late in the game, after Syria and Egypt had mostly been bloodied as a means of trying to force Israel to negotiate rather than go double-or-nothing for bigger gains against Syria and Egypt. Jordan also allegedly gave Israel warning that the Syrians were prepping for another chimpout beforehand, so the game the Jordanians playing was a very complicated one.

Yom Kippur definitely was way more spearheaded as a communist effort to destroy Israel, so it makes sense that King Hussein, who was never really aligned with the USSR and had his fill of the Palestinians after Black September, wanted nothing to do with it. You can also argue that the Egyptians were at least somewhat successful, as they were able to reduce the efficacy of the IAF through their air defense system and were able to hold on to at least parts of the eastern bank of the Suez Canal, as opposed to the Syrians, who completely ate shit.

That war also in large part helped to hobble the US automotive industry because OPEC's oil embargo against nations that supported Israel created a market opening for more fuel efficient Japanese cars in the US and it also led to the Egyptians starting to drift away from the Soviet sphere.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Jordan also allegedly gave Israel warning that the Syrians were prepping for another chimpout beforehand, so the game the Jordanians playing was a very complicated one.

My favourite/wholesome part of the Yon Kippur war was Jordan and Israel promising to try and not attack one another in secret. Jordan got involved to save face with their fellow Arabs.

 

[CoolGuy1990]

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[Sexyphobe]

Why isn't North Korea being attacked and awaiting upcoming invasion? Even though their rhetoric is at times much more extreme than what's coming out of Iran?
Why shouldn't Iran be allowed to have nuclear weapon capabilities? A ton of other sketchy nations have them.
It's kind of a rhetorical question though, since it's all about Israel wanting to be able to do whatever they want to in the Middle East, without the threat of mutually assured destruction.

North Korea has Russia backing them, and have shown to be a loud dog that will put on a show, but won't bite. They're still kept on a short leash with eyes on them, particularly South Korea. Iran has shown to actually try shit, albeit with proxy armies but still putting funding towards it. If it wasn't for Russia backing them as well, there'd probably be more direct war with them from America and/or Israel.

 

[Boss Hawg]

Critque this Reddit tier shit.

 

[Gerelatha]

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Critque this Reddit tier shit.

Israeli AD was too effective tonight for this to be a punchy meme

 

[BillTheButcher]

I really dont have too much of a dog in this fight considering i could give two fucks who blows what up first, but is there a non-zero chance that israel let some of those bombs hit to bolster support for all out war?

 

[pistolwhipped]

Well, yeah. The IDF is unironically a dog shit military who can't do anything beyond shoot kids with rocks (and even then that's too much sometimes), but they're a fuck load better than any Arab military who refuse to train and instead believe they'll only win if Allah decides they should win.

Bro wtf is this dumb ass comment?? Do you have any idea the level of sophisticated coordination and military prestige this operation took? They blew up Iran’s shitty air defense system FROM WITHIN IRAN before using fighter jets to hit the nuclear facilities. And then they contacted all the second in command guys and told them that they’re next.

“Unironically a dog shit military” lol

How do we think this will end?

With baklava and manischewitz

 

[Historical Strelkov]

We are in the middle east because asia (japan and korea) get their energy from middle eastern oil. We are also in the middle east because if you are in the middle east you are in the middle of major trade routes. Also Israel has done a fuck ton for the usa and has paid back in intel and being the usa's triggermen (because Congress banned the cia from doing targeted assassinations like how they use to do in 1960s). Please stop repeating what you read on 4chan it's beyond dumb, simplistic and wrong.

All of those things directly benefit Israel and have nothing to do with American domestic issues.
What assassinations does America need to commit over what oil and trade routes halfway around the globe?
We have an entire hemisphere to ourselves, we don't need Israel.
Israel needs America.
Ukraine needs America.
All of these stupid geopolitical programs depend on American cashflow and technology.

Everyone loves to shit on America while taking our money, buying our shit, and moving here to fuck it up, and thats the problem.
You want Israel to be a good ally to the west? How about the Israelis come out against all this middle eastern migration to the west bullshit and help us release some of those Epstein files or something.
If the Israelis treated us the way they treat themselves, then it would be a real allyship. Not just golem that can be taken advantage of which is the way its perceived.
Then people would actually be like "you know what, Israel is actually cool they care about us, they don't just lip service us and call us retarded"

 

[Vertigo]

Cop who rescued the baby from the house wreckage.

Spoiler: uncropped

 

[Brian Oblivion]

This is a fair argument tbh. Israel definitely strikes me as being able to source technology and equipment on its own, where there's a will there's a way.

And I didn't know about the Lebanese soldiers, the more you know haha.

Thanks for the answer!

Eh, honestly if we were to cut our foreign aid to Israel down to the level we give Lebanon (i.e. cutting it by more than 90%) there would be mass emigration/brain-drain from everyone who has either duel citizenship or those without it but who have the qualifications necessary to find employment in other developed countries. It would be an extremely devastating and destabilizing event. It would be survivable but it would not be the same country it is currently. It would look a lot like other Middle Eastern countries that are not particularly oil rich.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

How do we think this will end?

Israeli victory and me panting the kiwi farms logo on an Israeli tank and the ruins of gaza. Everything else we shall see. I hope the Persian people do the right thing and hit the streets to end the Regime.

See, this is what got me over the Bell Curve on wignats/"race realists" or whatever. It's not because I feel the need to defend Greatest Ally from Annuda Shoah, or because racism is le bad and mean.

It's because unironic online wignats are hands-down some of the most hopelessly obtuse retards I've ever bickered with. Hence, it's fun to play the part of JIDF just to make them seethe and mald.

Oh it's fun to watch them. But it gets tiring. It's like talking to twitter liberals.

Yom Kippur definitely was way more spearheaded as a communist effort to destroy Israel,

ehhh less commies more arab socialists. So communism with arab characteristics.

so it makes sense that King Hussein, who was never really aligned with the USSR and had his fill of the Palestinians after Black September, wanted nothing to do with it.

King Hussein was never really against the Jews, originally he wanted Israel to be a vassal/semi autonomous region of the kingdom of Jordan where the jews would have local control but he would make foreign policy. The jews (obviously) rejected it (as zionism at it's core is about Jewish self determination), however he talked enough of a big game that he had to do SOMETHING. That's why when he took the west bank he made all the arabs there Jordianians citizens and not Palestinians.

You can also argue that the Egyptians were at least somewhat successful, as they were able to reduce the efficacy of the IAF through their air defense system and were able to hold on to at least parts of the eastern bank of the Suez Canal, as opposed to the Syrians, who completely ate shit.

Well that's how Egypt sold their win to their people and the larger arab world. They literally said "we could have won if Syria wasn't retarded" but the fact of the matter is that, even though Syria was retarded the Israelis would have never allowed themselves to lose. putting superior tactics and will aside if shit really did get dire the Israelis would have started dropping nukes.

That war also in large part helped to hobble the US automotive industry because OPEC's oil embargo against nations that supported Israel created a market opening for more fuel efficient Japanese cars in the US and it also led to the Egyptians starting to drift away from the Soviet sphere.

oh yeah 100% again It's not the jooz but the muhammadeens

 

[soy_king]

I was shared this article not too long ago by @Catch The Rainbow regarding Israeli aid from the US and how some Jews want to stop it. Some Israeli's see it as a crutch that they'd be better off not being dependent on and, rather ironically considering some sentiments in this thread about Jewish influence over America, some Israelis see it as a tool of the US to influence and exert control over Israel thus making the relationship unequal.

There's definitely a large amount of Israelis who believe that, since their whole national ethos is that Israel stands alone against overwhelming odds and wins through national solidarity. As a result, many of them tend to believe that the US killed the Israeli aerospace industry in order to force them to use US aircraft so that we can gather on the ground test data on how our planes operate.

I'm not entirely sure about that being true, but I do believe that both sides profit off the relationship and also it would be naive and foolish to blindly trust each other or think that our national interests are 100% aligned.

 

[Ravier Xavenblood]

I still can't believe that Iranian guy's name was Salami.

 

[Moneybags7173]

Israeli AD was too effective tonight for this to be a punchy meme

Israeli AD did fuck-all, as is usual they are relying on multiple other countries to intercept the missiles for them.

 

[Ethan Ralph Is 5'1"]

Because North Korea isn't about to give fucking muslims who hate the west nuclear weapons to win a bullshit holy war. North Korea just doesn't want to get invaded.

North Korea hates the west as much as anyone. And they have upwards of 50 nukes. The whole "muh Islamic holy war" thing is mirrored in North Korea, just from a political point of view instead of a religious one.

Because if Iran gets them then saudi arabia will want them and then Egypt and Syria will want them etc etc. The likelyhood nukes get used only goes up the more people have them. Seriously assad and sadam used chemical weapons without a second thought. If you want to say anything about Indian and Pakistan having nukes (they shouldn't I don't trust them). You can be rest assured they are pointed only at each other and China.

I really don't believe in kicking away the ladder, when it comes to weapons of war.
"Now we have them, and that's bad enough. Sorry, no one else gets to."
And any talk about chemical/biological warfare and war crimes from Assad goes out the window, since they've been used plenty of times by America, especially while trying to skirt around the rules by using a herbicide in Vietnam and so on.
You just don't want to be put in a poorer position weaponry and tactics wise with decreased odds of victory, and that's really all it boils down to.

 

[Gerelatha]

Israeli AD did fuck-all, as is usual they are relying on multiple other countries to intercept the missiles for them.

this is just cope, David’s sling and Arrow 3 are proven effective systems at this point

 

[Sammich]

Once you understand Iran/Contra all the way back in the 80s, there wasn't another way this was going to end. We've been on this track longer than most people that post here have been alive, and I'm probably missing a big chunk of it going back even further. Iran was mostly kept in check by Iraq, but the neocons of the late 90s (Bush Sr) and his Son in the 00s (W) took Iraq off the table, and Iran wasn't really kept in check any longer.

I hope to god this shit with Iran is the end of it, and I hope it doesn't spread into a bigger regional war, and that seems to be the case so far. Anyone that believes in prayer would do well to pray it stays isolated to just iran and Israel. I truly don't give a shit about anything in the middle east, I only care if America treasure and blood are spilled there.

 

[Meat Target]

I really dont have too much of a dog in this fight considering i could give two fucks who blows what up first, but is there a non-zero chance that israel let some of those bombs hit to bolster support for all out war?

I mean, they've already made up their minds. Their current goal is to maximize fucking up Iran's shit at minimal risk.

Neither Israel or the US are squared up to put boots on the ground in Iran; the Yids aren't gonna get into a 2-front ground war when there's still Hamas and Hezbollah to deal with. The Yanks would need to muster an invasion force double the size of Iraq in 2003, and right now there's only a couple thousand burger troops in the region.

 

[Diggus Bickus]

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