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The problem is there's no real opposition in Iran, so in the unlikely event we see a regime change in Iran, the end result will either be complete anarchy or a bunch of former regime members suddenly becoming "liberal democrats," just like all those ex-communists in the Eastern Bloc became "social democrats."
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The monarchy can be restored.
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This is probably the most likely result. If there is a regime change in Iran, yeah someone will try to rebuild it as a functioning government. At best we'll get something like Iraq now, which I feel is held together by duct tape and glue. At worst we'll end up with a another Afghanistan. Making it worse the Taliban have their own bone to pick with the Iranians and if Iran falls and is not propped up? Guess who gonna see free eats and start causing trouble.
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A direct, full-scale attack on Iran wouldn't feasible for Israel, even if the kikes had the courage to do it themselves.
But Netanyahu has been trying for the last three decades to have the dumb American goyim fight wars his behalf.
The (((Wolfowitz))) doctrine, Bush's neocons, Natan Sharansky, McCain - they all fit squarely into the scheme.
Why wouldn't Netanyahu gamble on this? It's been working as intended.
So, better get your children ready to die for your greatest ally, the dancing Israelis!
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You’re dumb as fuck if you think Iran was making any good faith attempt at diplomacy
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Hasan is like the typical NPC can't handle different thinking.
Regarding Nostradmaus, the truth is that the verses he wrote, called Quatrains, are vaguely written, even if they contain the truth it is to hard to interpret what the truth is, they are therefore meaningless.
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This is the #1 problem with those optimistic wishcasts for regime change in Tehran. There's definitely significant discontent with the Mullahs especially from the younger generations of Iranians, with increasingly huge and violent protests/riots erupting against the Islamist government over the last decade+, and I don't believe that's all inorganic astroturf or a Jewish-organized color revolution with no actual popular support (if it were, this trend would've petered out after the first few such protests were squashed and anyone resembling a leadership figure got black-bagged by the authorities, as has been the case in Russia for example).
However this opposition to the Mullahs remains very disorganized, with basically no visible leaders or guiding organizations in Iran itself, and contrary to what Hollywood would like to tell us, 'leaderless' mass uprisings have never succeeded in history. At most you just get mass riots Jacquerie-style and maybe a Syrian-style clusterfuck of a civil war as a million poorly-organized rival factions take up arms against the regime and each other, not immediate regime change and a smooth transition. If Khamenei has really fled the country as some rumors suggest, better hope that the Iranian generals that Israel didn't kill are on their payroll & able to fill the power vacuum, I think that would be the only way to have anything resembling a semi-smooth transition to a pro-Western government in Iran without the chaos that an attempt at bottom-up revolution practically guarantees.
Crown Prince Reza seems like a cool guy & all, but he hasn't been in Iran since the Islamic Revolution. And while he is popular with the Iranian diaspora (certainly including numerous fell;ow post-Revolution exiles and their descendants, I knew an Iranian girl in high school who was a rabid supporter of the Pahlavis like her parents & grandparents), it's also very difficult to gauge the popularity of monarchism in Iran itself, the Mullahs aren't exactly the sort to allow polling of support for their overthrow and the forms of government to replace their theocracy after all and I haven't seen too much overt monarchist support in most of the past major Iranian protests (the Cyrus the Great Day protest being the exception since it was primarily a monarchist protest). I think it's too
to expect a Pahlavi restoration in the event that the Mullahs go down, at best the Crown Prince might be able to pull a Simeon of Bulgaria and get democratically elected president/prime minister of an Iranian republic, then just see where he goes & whether he can build up support for his restoration to the Shahdom from there.Larry Poster
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Who cares about these 'Americans' that are Israel first and would sooner let 10 Americans die before a single Jew does? Not me.
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That could be. Netanyahu has three things that seem to influence his behavior most:
1. His fanaticism.
2. His paranoia.
3. His inability to think in terms of long-term consequences.
Netanyahu doesn't compromise and he's a fanatic about establishing his dominance. He feels that anything he does he must commit to 100% or God will turn against him or some such thing. He's about as bad the Iranian leadership in that regard, so it's no wonder he chimped out at the prospect that he might have to compromise a little to make a peace deal work out. Other nations might think he's weak. He also thinks everyone's number one goal is to invite the wrath of the US by taking out Israel at all costs. Conflating legiti criticism with antisemitism is also something he does on the regular.
Not to mention, he also doesn't worry about consequences because he knows he'll never face any. Convince the US that Saddam has nonexistent nukes? Who cares. It's not like the US will stop giving them weapons. All that will happen is that a nation will get toppled, tons of people will die, and the US will be seen with egg on our faces.
The result? Do whatever you want. Is your popularity waning and your own people are starting to resent you? Oct 7 and retaliation! Oh noes, now he's a war criminal?!? It's okay, Iran is going to get nukes in two minutes time if he doesn't strike now!
Not saying that the arabs are any better. I wouldn't want to fund their wars or die for their nations, either. Still, there's a plain aggressor in this case, and it ain't Iran this time.
Super old, but a lack of taking blowback into consideration is why he's always ready to beat the drums of war and then wonder why things like Oct. 7 happen:
Maybe these two will destroy each other and no one will have to deal with either of them again.
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Time for our dear leader to start a kiwi revolution in Iran.
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If I post this screenshot to Twitter and come up with a crazy theory maybe the IDF will give me a job as a social media agent.
That Sikorsky is the only aircraft inbound for Israel right now though.
Edit: Flight radar just made a liar out of me there's a private Cessna from Bulgaria there as well that just popped up, and disappeared just as quick.
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Third time's the charm maybe we can turn it all into glass
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Shame that the previous Shah died about 20 years ago outside a New Jersey gas station before he could see this day.
That's no aircraft...
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Yeah let’s replace a shitty theocratic regime with a shitty monarchic regime.
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They should have stayed in brooklyn instead of doing some gay bible larp.
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Flight radar tracking isn't flawless. Sometimes it loses tracking data for aircraft and just projects them on the map along their last known heading. The live shipping tracker does the same thing too.
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There is also a lot of GPS jamming going on
I mean I don't think people would know.
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Israel's Netanyahu: "Very soon, you will see Israeli Air Force jets over the skies of Tehran. We will strike every site and every target of the Ayatollah's regime."
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Even Israel admits that Irans retaliatory strike killed a few of them. Is the iron dome weakening?