Elliot Page / Ellen Page - Former actress, starred in Juno. Turned into a pooner and divorced her wife because being a lesbian was not boosting her career anymore. Receives a daily dose of asspatting from Hollywood. Likes to show off her "male" body using fake abdominals.

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Sinner's Sandwich said:
Oh god, whoever that pooner Goblin plays, wokists are going to claim that character as a zippertit from that day on. Let's hope it's a character Nolan made up instead of one from greek mythology.
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She should play Phemius. I want to hear her serenade Penelope’s suitors with that beautiful voice of hers.
 
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Nolan could be as progressive as the rear of Hollywood (I don't know, I'm assuming), but he's smart enough to not give her a role where he could be mocked.

(Yes, I'm aware that Zendaya Is Athena...)
 
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What's the over/under on Elliot detransing in the future?

Recently a prominent pooner @legaltweetz announced they are a girl again, also one of Brad Pitt's kids was a pooner for a few years and now I think is back to their gender assigned at birth (woman), even an old friend of mines female cousin who switched to going by the male form of her name and was wearing very guy-type clothing for about a year is apparently just a girl again, it seems like the trans trend hit its high watermark and is (hopefully) falling back, at least for the FtM side of it, they're finally realizing that being a guy sucks ass.

I think pooners will have an easier time going back, especially for the ones who didnt get surgery though it's possible if they were on male hormones they may have fertility issues. The ones that did get surgery like Elliot Page cut their tits off to such an extreme degree I'm not sure that's fixable, they might be able to get fake tits but if they took out the entire gland then I'm assuming they'll never be able to produce milk in the event they decide to have kids.

Anyway, do you think there is a chance Elliot comes crawling back to being Ellen or are they too far gone? Possibly a sunk cost fallacy at play considering they went so aggressive in their pooning out.
 
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Anyway, do you think there is a chance Elliot comes crawling back to being Ellen or are they too far gone? Possibly a sunk cost fallacy at play considering they went so aggressive in their pooning out.
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Not a chance.

We've seen in the book, how she goes on for pages and pages about how she hates anything to do with being someone feminine, how she literally thinks she is genocided for wearing dresses, "literally" killing her in the process and how pathetically has to explain how she has real male sex with a woman, which I imagine must be pretty gross to watch considering the escort has sex with a Frankenstein lady with her breasts removed and it makes her "hard".

Ellen was like this way long before the Pooners' mass hysteria began. She wanted to be a real man by any means necessary, and maybe she thought going zipper tits would make her feel better. And went to the changes, receiving applauses and praise from the public, but even something like that only was temporally.

And besides, considering all the spectacle and self-fellation -nopunintended- she did with her book. I would think she would know how incredibly hypocritical it would be for her to simply decide she no longer wants to go back to being a normal woman, after all the virtue signaling and holier-than-thou attitude she used to show to conservatives over this aspect.

It would be ideal, it would even be finally the sign of a slight recover on her mental health, but it's impossible, she already made the decision and will try everything she can in trying to convince herself that she made the right decision. It is too late to reflect on whether she made the right call, she is now living the consequences of what she did.
 
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Ellen has the extra problem of having to think about her career so she wouldn't dare detransition until the ideology dies out enough to not destroy her life. She also has a lot of mental problems fueling this which will never go away.

I'm guessing too far gone or suicide. She's fucked up her life to the point where the most favorable thing for her now in terms of reputation is to die young in some kind of accident or illness like cancer.
 
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Nicholas II of Russia said:
We've seen in the book, how she goes on for pages and pages about how she hates anything to do with being someone feminine, how she literally thinks she is genocided for wearing dresses, "literally" killing her in the process and how pathetically has to explain how she has real male sex with a woman, which I imagine must be pretty gross to watch considering the escort has sex with a Frankenstein lady with her breasts removed and it makes her "hard".
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I'll be honest with you, I don't know how much I believe the authenticity of her account in this book. Seems to me like she wrote this book to justify her pooning out, and much of what she had written there is an interpretation after the act, meaning, in the process of pooning out she suddenly realized she hated dresses all along and it was awful that she had to wear them, etc., but in real time, she was a bit uncomfortable at most, or possibly even thought nothing of it.

I don't know, I see this a lot with pooners. They retrospectively make something that was minor or didn't even exist, into a major deal. Many of them claim they were girly as girls because that was expected of them, and actually they felt uncomfortable with it all along, and post this one photo of them as a child unsmiling as a proof that they were uncomfortable. I don't believe this for a moment, sorry. These are the same people who claim children don't pretend, so if a child says they are this gender, believe them. Yet apparently they had just been pretending to like or be okay with so many things all their childhood. I have no doubt they are rewriting their own history to fit the narrative of them being a trans man, possibly without understanding they are doing it. So I don't know, I can see Ellen do this too.

By the way, I do think that there are (not many) kids who are very people pleasers and would pretend consistently to like some things and dislike others to please their parents. But this is something that is rather pathologic you can say, I mean, it's a consistence pattern of behaviour and it's rather complex, you don't just snap out of it as a teen or young adult and it doesn't really manifest the way these pooner present it.

Anyway, imo, it is possible Ellen would detransition after (if...) transition would get out if fashion and will be recognized as the medical scandal that it is. Then many of these pooners will detransition imo and will be regarded victims of this disaster, which is true in a way and false in another... This is my prediction for the future. Well, hopefully. So, if that happens, I can see Ellen detransition and claim to have been victim all along and publish a new book about how she survived the biggest medical scandal of the 21st century. The question is, of course, would she last this long...

I imagine she could also go incognito and detransition quietly, but it seems very unlikely. I think she will either die a pooner or detransition when it is popular and everyone would embrace ex-pooners as poor victims, collectively forgetting how much they had pushed for it and how they attempted to silence and cancel anyone who tried to stop them.
 
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Disliking wearing dresses isn't as unusual as pooners would claim. Especially when it's forced for an occasion you're not comfortable with like a wedding or even church. Most kids, girls too, want comfortable wearing to play, not sitting straight for hours dressed like a doll. You grow out of it with socialization and understanding of human behaviours ("if I have to go to a wedding, I need to dress properly").

Ellen didn't like wearing feminine clothes because she just didn't. That's it. Many straight women don't like it either, that doesn't mean they're lesbians or trans. She failed at understanding that red carpets are promotional stunts and she needed to dress the part and being unable to get a good stylist to dress her comfortably while also not looking like a hobo like the other Ellen.
 
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Tasty Tatty said:
Disliking wearing dresses isn't as unusual as pooners would claim. Especially when it's forced for an occasion you're not comfortable with like a wedding or even church. Most kids, girls too, want comfortable wearing to play, not sitting straight for hours dressed like a doll. You grow out of it with socialization and understanding of human behaviours ("if I have to go to a wedding, I need to dress properly").

Ellen didn't like wearing feminine clothes because she just didn't. That's it. Many straight women don't like it either, that doesn't mean they're lesbians or trans. She failed at understanding that red carpets are promotional stunts and she needed to dress the part and being unable to get a good stylist to dress her comfortably while also not looking like a hobo like the other Ellen.
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Plus she was likely groomed by internet pooners. You spend your life being uncomfortable with societal expectations of women and then at a vulnerable point in your life they start brainwashing you with the rhetoric. Played with cars as kid? Hated dresses? Wore shoes? Pooner. I’ve unfortunately witnessed this irl and it’s horrifying. Hollywood is definitely not a good place for gender non conforming women either. No wonder she snapped and cut her tits off.
 
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90 Day Beyonce said:
She could play Patroclus and all the fujo allies will have to pretend that "his" relationship with Achilles is just like their yaoi imagination.
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Maybe Nolan will do that to discourage the fujos from touching his film.

I can see Ellen detransitioning, the scars will act like a leto joker damaged forehead tattoo or a bunch of literal self harm scars so that people interacting with her can't forget that she's wounded. It being obvious from her appearance means she won't have to tell people or perform it all the time through her actions so she might be able to just chill out and live a quiet life finally. I think that's why she couldn't stick with the nature commune or her marriage, because if people saw her happy in the present they wouldn't know she used to be unhappy and can't get over it.
 
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Tragon Dirtle said:
I think that's why she couldn't stick with the nature commune or her marriage, because if people saw her happy in the present they wouldn't know she used to be unhappy and can't get over it.
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She can't stick with anything because she's severely mentally ill, and what mental health care she receives is the "affirming" kind, which is absolute poison for anyone who goes through periods of psychosis. She desperately needs intensive inpatient treatment for both her mental illness and her eating disorder, and strict lifelong supervision to make sure she's following her medication regime when she's released.

She's never going to get either of these things.
 
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I don’t see Ellen detransitioning unless she got something out of it. She’s still getting more praise for being her “real” self in Trump’s America, even if even that too is rapidly drying up. Being Elliot is beneficial to her as long as people talk about her in mostly affirming tones. It means that people haven’t forgotten her.

I see her committing suicide regardless. She has inflicted too much harm on her body from the eating disorders and medical transitioning, and what inner strength she had when she was younger is long gone. Suicide rates are very high amongst Ellen types for many, many reasons.
 
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