Sony hate thread

[Mister Fister]

The funny bit is, is the PS5 is a powerful and competent console. It's not the hardware letting them down, it's the software and ability to code to the machine.

Cerny is a hardware genius and his last console is the PS6, they're his own words. After what Hulst or whomever, did to the PS5PRO, which i believe was not what cerny had in mind, evidenced by how quite Sony have gone over the Pro, one can't help but wonder what they'll do when their shit software is running on shit hardware. Chances are, PS6 will be an off-the-shelf solution like Xbox Series, unless Cerny is given full autonomy to make it.

You're right though, sonyggers will rush to buy it but, to those Sony fans who have their eyes open, it's easy to see the damage that has occurred to their brand. The PS5 is falling behind PS4, month on month and Sony are desperately fiddling the sales numbers to hide that fact. I think the PS6 will be the worst selling Sony console in their history, relative to potential purchasers - it won't sell fewer than the PS1, because there were fewer gamers...supposedly.

Cerny probably is getting poached by Lisa Su.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

nintendo can't go to pc because of the fucktillion extra hardware shit that puts any VR racing enthusiast to shame, anyone thinking that will happen by nintendo in the foreseeable future is delusional and anyone that wants to do that better live in a country that won't let nintendo sue you to hell and back.

Absolutely. Nintendo would never open their hardware up by going PC and allowing emulators to have an easy ride.

PS6 is literally PS5 which is hardware upgrades, nothing more.
yeah sure you can toss a fucking gyroscope controller in there but they know they can get extra cash by making it pc compatible...

Yep. Sony are following Microsoft's playbook since 2012, to a T. You could set your watch to them, they are that predictable.

Cerny probably is getting poached by Lisa Su.

I can't blame the guy. even though he's at retirement age, he will probably consult for AMD.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

they follow in Sony and Microsoft’s footsteps and test a few old games in the PC market…

They tried ages ago in the Pc-88 days but Nintendo did a lot of weird shit back then. It'd probably be more likely they go for the smartphone market and make random gacha crap for android and ios.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

They tried ages ago in the Pc-88 days but Nintendo did a lot of weird shit back then. It'd probably be more likely they go for the smartphone market and make random gacha crap for android and ios.

Pokemon Go.

 

[StacticShock]

They tried ages ago in the Pc-88 days but Nintendo did a lot of weird shit back then. It'd probably be more likely they go for the smartphone market and make random gacha crap for android and ios.

that's basically the END stage of a japanese developer lifecycle.
making shitty gacha games based off IP's because the yakuza needs to captalize on people getting old and shieet.
you know they are definitely dead once they start shitting out pachinko machines.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

Cerny probably is getting poached by Lisa Su.

Cerny is an independent contractor, if he wanted to work for AMD, or anyone else, he already can.

AMD has openly admitted that Cerny had a big influence on their last couple of GPU generations, as they made changes and additions to their designs to incorporate his requests.

 

[Two Dollars]

some grade-A copium from Hulst and Nishito

Continuing from this, a former Playstation exec said they didn’t even consider Nintendo competition or include them in business analysis outside Japan because… reasons?

You can’t lose to your competition if you arbitrarily change the meaning of competition.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

Continuing from this, a former Playstation exec said they didn’t even consider Nintendo competition or include them in business analysis outside Japan because… reasons?

You can’t lose to your competition if you arbitrarily change the meaning of competition.
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There honestly isn't a ton of overlap between the two, since few people own more than one console and the libraries for the two systems are pretty divergent. They are both in the video game market, but cater to different segments more than they directly compete.

 

[Two Dollars]

There honestly isn't a ton of overlap between the two, since few people own more than one console and the libraries for the two systems are pretty divergent. They are both in the video game market, but cater to different segments more than they directly compete.

So different libraries with different experiences cause people to purchase one console over another? That sounds like competition.

I get what the argument is supposed to be, but it assumes that people who like Game Type A will never consider playing Game Type B and are a lost cause in business. Even that Yoshida guy acts like Nintendo players ”””graduating””” to Playstation is a given without even considering the possibility that if Nintendo makes games that are significantly better than what Playstation offers, then those players might just stay where they are, therefore Playstation needs to give them a reason to migrate to their ecosystem.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

So different libraries with different experiences cause people to purchase one console over another? That sounds like competition.

I get what the argument is supposed to be, but it assumes that people who like Game Type A will never consider playing Game Type B and are a lost cause in business. Even that Yoshida guy acts like Nintendo players ”””graduating””” to Playstation is a given without even considering the possibility that if Nintendo makes games that are significantly better than what Playstation offers, then those players might just stay where they are, therefore Playstation needs to give them a reason to migrate to their ecosystem.

The majority of each platform's user base would not pick the other due to the differentiating characteristics of each platform.

They are indirectly competing, not fighting for the same dollars. They offer different enough products that there is a bit of overlap, but not a lot of consumer mobility between them. Think about an SUV and a sports car. Both are parts of the automobile market, but what makes a person buy one or the other usually comes down to one serving the want or need of the buyer in ways the other, by design, does not. Playstation vs Nintendo is that sort of situation. They are in the same business, but going for different use cases.

 

[Markorian]

They're definitely not  as direct of competition as microshaft by virtue of having a decent pace of exclusives and some sort of feature outside of being a gimped cripple pc that uses your TV as a monitor like Playstation and Xbox are, but to say Nintendo isn't competition to them is reductive to the point of misinformation.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

nintendo can't go to pc because of the fucktillion extra hardware shit that puts any VR racing enthusiast to shame, anyone thinking that will happen by nintendo in the foreseeable future is delusional and anyone that wants to do that better live in a country that won't let nintendo sue you to hell and back.

The bigger reason is everytime they've tried to get their franchises on other systems, something goes horribly wrong. The CD-i games are a more well known example of this. There's also Super Mario Bros. Special for the PC 88.

Yes, that is really what the music for this version sounds like. It's like the game itself has depression.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

The bigger reason is everytime they've tried to get their franchises on other systems, something goes horribly wrong. The CD-i games are a more well known example of this. There's also Super Mario Bros. Special for the PC 88.

Yes, that is really what the music for this version sounds like. It's like the game itself has depression.

I was expecting something horrible, but outside of the EYE-BLEEDING colors, this is actually a competent port for its time.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Nintendo being late to the punch on every single trend is both a blessing and a curse. Makes you wonder how long it’ll be before they follow in Sony and Microsoft’s footsteps and test a few old games in the PC market… just kidding it’ll never happen

Don't jinx it, Nintendo is barely hanging in my good graces by a thread as it is...

I think the PS6 will be the worst selling Sony console in their history, relative to potential purchasers - it won't sell fewer than the PS1, because there were fewer gamers...supposedly.

Tje only way they can salvage PS6 is good exclusives. If PS5 is anything to judge that by, it's not gonna happen. There's barely even any good exclusives for PS4, for that matter (but at least they exist).

I was expecting something horrible, but outside of the EYE-BLEEDING colors, this is actually a competent port for its time.

Pretty interesting differences too, wouldn't mind a remake. I know there's ROM hacks of SMB for it but I mean a proper remake.

 

[Hermiöne Granger]

I think the PS6 will be the worst selling Sony console in their history

I think its to early to predict anything when it comes to the PS6. But for the PS6 to be the worst ever. It must not play any PS4/PS5 games at all, have no disc drive and be depended on servers like the XBSX. That need to be connect to servers at start up to set it up with an account, or else you cant use it at all.

 

[moocow]

have no disc drive and be depended on servers like the XBSX

They already tested the waters for that with the discless PS5 that supported an "optional" external disc reader that has to be authenticated online and permanently "married" to the unit (so it won't work with any other PS5). The disc drive nonsense was undoubtedly meant to discourage people from bothering with physical media. I assume it did well enough to at least warrant consideration for a completely discless PS6.

Always-on internet connectivity being required for basic operation is a given. Microsoft wanted to do that as early as the Xbox One and only walked it back because of how much people screamed about it back then. These days, I don't expect that much resistance to the idea.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

I think its to early to predict anything when it comes to the PS6. But for the PS6 to be the worst ever. It must not play any PS4/PS5 games at all, have no disc drive and be depended on servers like the XBSX. That need to be connect to servers at start up to set it up with an account, or else you cant use it at all.

It will play PS4/PS5 games when the special edition is released exclusively for the PS6, or if you pay £30 to play Horizon 3 that you bought on PS5.

As @moocow states, they've already tested the discless, no physical option and while they'll probably release a SKU with a disc drive, it will be £149 more expensive because reasons.

But none of that really matters. Today, PS5 is 15 million units behind PS4, with the gap increasing. It took five years for the numbers of PSN users on PS5 to be larger than those on PS4. The caveat is, there's no evidence to show that those PS4 players moved to PS5 which caused the increase. Which means the PS4 players could, and probably have, abandoned Playstation in favour of Nintendo or PC.
We saw this with Microsoft; their players abandoned them in droves in favour of the PS4.

Sony are following the Microsoft playbook to a T.

 

[Adash]

It must not play any PS4/PS5 games at all

Maybe, but backcompat is one of the few things holding Sony users together, due to sunk cost. If they're forced to buy their games all over again, that just leads to more of them hopping to PC.

have no disc drive

Pretty likely, how else can they extort money out of people via PSN? I chatted to one of my friends about games that are more expensive on PC instead of PS, and he gave Stellar Blade. The PSN version was actually more expensive.

be depended on servers like the XBSX. That need to be connect to servers at start up to set it up with an account, or else you cant use it at all.

Also quite likely, consoles get more and more linked to online functionality. They can probably pull some bullshit claim like "our games stream data from servers as you play, you NEED an internet connection!" or something.

The bigger reason is everytime they've tried to get their franchises on other systems, something goes horribly wrong.

Eh, not really. ID Software had made a SMB3 demo that ran and looked pretty damn well, and even got approval by Nintendo Of America until their Japanese counterpart realized how it'd probably take away from NES sales.

 

[Markorian]

I think its to early to predict anything when it comes to the PS6. But for the PS6 to be the worst ever. It must not play any PS4/PS5 games at all, have no disc drive and be depended on servers like the XBSX. That need to be connect to servers at start up to set it up with an account, or else you cant use it at all.

My weird, out there ps6 prediction is that it's going to have a completely different cpu architecture (both the ps4 and ps5's cpu ended up being its worst part, with it often being the bottleneck on the ps5, something almost unheard of in today's modern gpu arms race), and because of this, backwards compatibility will be a much more daunting prospect than ps4 to ps5, or even switch to switch 2 (which also have different architectures), and the ps6 as a result will launch without backwards compatibility on most or even all ps4/ps5 titles, and will require later updates (which will likely be dripfed). Sonyggers will somehow treat this as if these are game launches for the ps6 every time it happens.

 

[Jarch6]

PlayStation 6 is Top of Sony’s Priorities Right Now, Says Sony CEO


Says the company who were hacked, constantly lose PSN availability and hiked their price up three times.


content and services
New and enhanced ways
player engagement.

These niggas smoking the strongest crack.

If there was any generation to prolong like the 7th gen it would be this one. Any marginal increase in hardware performance for the PS6 would be unnoticeable to the end-user and anybody who bought a PS5 would feel majorly gypped given that there was barely any games for the damn thing (disincentivizing them from being swindled again by buying the PS6). Further, it's an unforced error given that Xbox and Nintendo aren't going to try and push forward the hardware specification standards any time soon (if ever). Then again, consumers are cattle so maybe it'll be fine.