hoe_math / Justin Quirici / Justin Careesi - "HISTORY'S MANLIEST HILARIOUS SEX GENIUS", Makes autistic charts, kicked off the cunt carousel, Chubby Chaser, "discriminated" against for being a white male, wants the Bible to be rewritten, COVID RUINED HIS DREAM JOB!

[Dr Cruel]

his channel is all about how to make the transactionality of opposite-sex relationships more fair for everyone.

It's not about fairness. It's about instincts and cold numbers. Schopenhauer hit on this a long time ago.

 

[AMHOLIO]

It's not about fairness. It's about instincts and cold numbers. Schopenhauer hit on this a long time ago.

Dating isn't fair, unfortunately. Not everyone gets a partner or to pass on their genes. Sometimes it will be a missed opportunity type of deal - job, obligation, or circumstances keep people from dating. Sometimes, it's really just because there is no pussy or (long term relationship) dick communism. Some people are not made for a long term relationship - they're too solitary, they believe they're entitled to control their partner like a servant, they treat a partner as someone who's only worth being with when the persin themselves feels like it, some of them just cannot stop picking BPDisasters. Some are undiagnosed or diagnosed mental cases or have some genes that shouldn't be passed on. Even with teaching, some people will never grow enough to have a long term happy dating life. It sucks, but sometimes, it's better for the person (or for the rest of the world) in the long term. No matter what the reason, never being able to have a long term partner if you truly want one is one of the harshest realities in life to accept. The playing field could be made more even and I am all for rethinking how we interact with each other and find opportunities to date, but some people will never find success since they just don't have the skill.

Hoe Math says his body count is in the triple digits, around 120. That's 120 more opportunities than other men have had, yet he still couldn't manage to keep down a chick or pass on his genes (then successfully graduate to bitching about child support, something that hasn't happened yet fortunately for all involved). He had a more than fair chance, yet here he is, malding how he doesn't have a wife (to disrespect I guess) or children. I trust him on how to pick up women, but how to keep them is an entirely different playfield he can't manage to find success in. If his channel was more focused on short term success and less on long term goals, I would find it annoying but passible since he was actually successful. As it is, he is also trying to go for long term goals of relationship success, which he is ill-suited at.

Sorry for rambling, just thinking about how sadly dating won't ever be fair and it sucks, but it isn't the end.

 

[Dr Cruel]

Sometimes it will be a missed opportunity type of deal - job, obligation, or circumstances keep people from dating. Sometimes, it's really just because there is no pussy or (long term relationship) dick communism. Some people are not made for a long term relationship - they're too solitary, they believe they're entitled to control their partner like a servant, they treat a partner as someone who's only worth being with when the persin themselves feels like it, some of them just cannot stop picking BPDisasters. Some are undiagnosed or diagnosed mental cases or have some genes that shouldn't be passed on. Even with teaching, some people will never grow enough to have a long term happy dating life. It sucks, but sometimes, it's better for the person (or for the rest of the world) in the long term.

( . . . )

Often someone with a great job or income will be pursued whether he wants a partner or not. Later the pursuer will try to separate the revenue from the partner and then pursue other targets. Some people will succeed because they believe they're entitled to control their partner like a servant, they treat a partner as someone who's only worth being with when the person themselves feels like it, treats women like property, and so on. This is particularly popular in Muslim countries. Some have an advantage because they are undiagnosed or diagnosed mental cases or are outright psychopaths. Whether or not some genes should be passed on has nothing to do with it. Some people will never have a long term happy dating life no matter what they do. It sucks, particularly because it is often quite arbitrary.



The same applies in warfare. The evil often survive and the virtuous are exterminated. Successful strategies and tactics can be quite arbitrary. Someone on the winning side may still be killed, while someone who loses may still survive and prosper.

It's not about fairness. It's about instincts and cold numbers.

Generally a male seeks multiple partners and sex without responsibility, while women seek lasting relationships and a secure family environment. Modern technological society and determined efforts by Left fascists to break the idea of the family unit has destabilized this trend so that both men and women increasingly pursue sex as recreation. This has ironically led to the return of male chauvinism - societies which allow men to force themselves on women and dominate them have higher birth rates. Men who are whores and have multiple female partners have more children. Women who have lots of sex and lots of children out of wedlock account for higher birth counts. And so on.

It's the success of the strategy in terms of birth numbers that matters. Deserve's got nothing to do with it.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

A potpourri of tidbits from hoe_math's Twitter


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More tweeting @ James Lindsay to bait engagement. He pretty much does this every other day.
More baiting about the Woke Right and colorblind meritocracy wrt the LA ICE riots over the weekend.
Doesn't look like Lindsay bit this time.



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hoe_math bragged about how much time he was saving using AI to do his research for him for his videos. Only to receive some mild pushback in the comments, where he retreated that he was only using AI to "find sources" that he would've discovered anyhow.


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As per usual, hoe_math's #1 ranked "Hoe's hoes" Rachel Wilson (Andrew Wilson's wife) was in the comments simping for absolutely anything he says or does, including using ChatGPT to do his homework for him.





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In this one hoe_math describes realizing only at 23 that he was abused as a child by his parents with only vague allusions with its associated trauma because a girlfriend was mean to him.

A Twitter rando seems to speculate that his father was partly responsible. hoe_math gives his father a pass because he was apparently brainwashed by hoe_math's grandparents and the education system into being a neglectful, "hands off", beta patriarch.




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More GeoGuesser as hoe_math admits he's looking for forever homes in the Lake Tahoe, NV area but finds them too expensive even with all his YT shekels. Lake Tahoe is also still his 2nd choice as he longs to find a house in the Cascades mountains.



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Here's hoe_math giving moneybags Dan Bilzerian a gold star for calling out Charlie Kirk as too pro-Israel.



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hoe_math himself gets pretty sadistic & medieval when commenting on Bonnie Blue (Guinness Book of Records attenting-seeking whore) and Aella's suggestion that all women want to be restrained and used by men, only they are repressed by society from knowing so.

Twitter rando: I just read Bonnie Blue is planning on holding a 'petting zoo' where she is tied up in a box and up to two thousand men can do what they like with her. Why is no one helping...
Aella: THIS IS A COMMON MANIFESTATION OF FEMALE SEXUALITY. Some women don't experience this urge, have difficulty imagining minds different than theirs, and then pathologize other women from deviating from their concept of what sexuality is okay to have
Crypto Bro: How do you expect a young single guy to read any of this and not instantly become Hitler?
hoe_math: I would go tell that gutter whore that locking those women in cages and wiring their mouths shut is an expression of normal male sexuality but I guess using the block button is also an expression of normal female sexuality
Another X rando: i've thought for a while that this level of whore-ism is partly a result of teenage girls listening to their bitter wine moms/aunts delusions that maybe they'd be happier if they just slept around more when they were younger. how hard am i coping? [Essenitally nature v. nurture]
hoe_math: All women are like this in all times if you let them [Essentially nature, not nurture]

 

[AMHOLIO]

A Twitter rando seems to speculate that his father was partly responsible. hoe_math gives his father a pass because he was apparently brainwashed by hoe_math's grandparents and the education system into being a neglectful, "hands off", beta patriarch.

Men are victims of society, women are the enforcing arm of society. Sorry girls, you've always been a pawn of those in charge and have to listen to the right men to become better.

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hoe_math himself gets pretty sadistic & medieval when commenting on Bonnie Blue (Guinness Book of Records attenting-seeking whore) and Aella's suggestion that all women want to be restrained and used by men, only they are repressed by society from knowing so.

>One male fucks a car, announces it on the internet and that he is dating a car. a few other internet dwellers congratulate him.
>"oh that guy's just a weirdo with weirdo friends"
>One career whore woman does a whore stunt for attention, another notably insane woman says all women like this
>"She's right all females are begging to be slut boxed and are untrustworthy"

Guess they're right.


The amount of men sticking their dick into something insane or doing risky sexual behavior and having paraphilias is so much more than females. To believe the insane person that is Aella is like listening and believing the crazy homeless man that Trump will die tomorrow by divine lighting because you really want him dead, he's grasping at whatever confirms his worldview without questioning it. We all have our moments of this, but if chicks were all like this, why the fuck isn't it socially acceptable already?

This is so dumb I want to show up to his apartment and personally give him a personal IRL mini trashcan dumb trophy for him to display on his walls or next to his desk as he draws on video.

 

[NoBueno]

I saw the first video from this guy today show in my feed:

Not sure why he's "famous" just bringing up the same points other random "redpill" bloggers do. Just another content farm to me, is it because he uses drawings like an 8th grader?
Reminds me of the time that Onlyfans girl let those guys have it on their girlbashing podcast and told them they are just farming OnlyFans girls for content while pretending to be high and mighty, offering no solutions, it was just money making for them

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

Not sure why he's "famous" just bringing up the same points other random "redpill" bloggers do. Just another content farm to me, is it because he uses drawings like an 8th grader?

The "Why did hoe_math get famous?" above all the other generic redpill/dating guru is an intriguing question not really answered by the OP or the thread.

A lot of somewhat similar types like Michael Sartain or Rich Cooper weren't known to me until they interacted with hoe_math himself.

One possibility could be his amateurish art style cartoon drawings. Which are certainly unique in the genre.

Another possibility could be the aura of mystique in keeping his face and identity anonymous all this time.

I mostly assign his brand credibility to his self-reported former career & success as a manwhore with 120+ kills. But this certainly doesn't make him stand out in his industry, as being promiscuous & successful with loose women is really a minimum standard.

It should be noted that hoe_math's demographics are 90/10 male. So his viral fame is coming primarily from hopeless young men and divorced and bitter older guys.

hoe_math also initially went viral in the summer of 2023 on Tiktok before consolidating his social media fame by shifting to YT. Old Tiktok assuredly had a very different demographic than 2025 YT, presumably with more young women. hoe_math has mostly abandoned Tiktok because of inconsistent monetization revenue compared to YT, even with his return to a more Tiktok-like shorts format with recent content releases. I heard him reiterate as much last week on his most recent live.

It should also be noted that his initial and self-reportedly most viewed/successful debut video was only pen doodles as compared to his more vibrant and colorful contemporary work. So it could be argued that it wasn't the quality of artwork itself that makes him successful, at least initially.

YT Link - Men with no hoes, where are you?


This is a YT reupload of his old Tiktok content. It's the oldest one in the feed. This appears to be the Tiktok short that actually predates his "hoe_math" branding namesake where a commenter gave him inspiration for his moniker with a "I didn't expect to wake up to hoe math this morning" quip.

I'm not sure if this is also his first/most viewed video content as well that made him go viral. But in the clip we see some of his familiar hypergamy and 1-10 Male/Female ranking charts, only at this time they are simply doodles in pen.

It also stands out just how short and unimpressive his initial viral reaction vid was.

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I covered some minor cow crossover between I, Hypocrite & hoe_math earlier this month where Lyndon Perry covered Matt's "I'm 40 and it's so over" viral lamenting tweet. I, Hypocrite's take at the time was that it wasn't too late to marry and start a family (as he did at 3, that real men like Andrew Tate are stoic and don't whine and show weakness like hoe_math, that hoe_math exhibited very feminine energy and was in a "bad headspace".

Rumble link, June 16th, 2025, The Daily Cope

Some more "Unexpected hoe_math" today on LP's show. Somehow in a leadup to a Joe Rogan video edit and a segue about David Lynch, Perry unsolicitedly mentioned that he isn't a fan of hoe_math and can't listen to his content despite its ideology and popularity because of his negative energy and juju.

He also took a shot across the bow that he's probably not married with a family because women can similarly detect and are repelled by his "bad vibes".

Some lore on Perry, he's a Canadian retired wigger in his early 40s who moved to Olympia, WA to marry an age gap fan (currently 25, apparently 20 when they married) & living rent-free in her parents' compound.

He has 3 small children with her IIRC and a teenage daughter from another relationship back in Canada.

He's a born-again Protestant. He sometimes hosts RW religious debates.

He's a Nick Fuentes enjoyer but tends to fight online with the Groypers over their more anti-family takes.
Most famously, Perry and Fuentes/the Groypers sparred online whether the Wifejak meme was wholesome (Perry) or beta (Fuentes ).



This very Daily Cope episode, Perry was celebrating Stefan Molyneux' return to Twitter by reviewing some of his content about the arguments against corporal punishment for children (both Molyneux and Perry are against it).

So Perry's criticism of hoe_math mostly comes from a Christian, middle-aged, RW, later life age gap marriage with children angle.

 

[Dean Pentel]

Best screengrab I could get. Wanted to capture more of her promise ring but the clip is only a second or two long and hoe_math's hand keeps patting up and down

I liked some of this guy's content because it seemed as if he were a petty racist that liked math, lifting weights, and violence (like me). But a promise ring, and at his age?! What a dumb faggot!

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

YT Link

hoe_math has gone back to doing Tiktok-style shorts over the last week or so, reportedly because he finally caught up with his long form content. The new shorts are reacting to women commenting on the "chopped man epidemic", where "chopped" is apparently a synonym for ugly.


A still from the latest short. hoe_math loves to showoff this selfie of himself from 9 years back when he was at his peak. It's in the OP and in thread several times. It's one of the few body shots that are known to exist of him.

It amuses me that he doesn't have a cropped anonymized version of the gun show selfie and has to keep from phonebooking himself in the short with his own hand.


A few more stills from the video. This seems to be a remastered hoe_math "life quality chart".

I've seen him use a similar handdrawn chart that wasn't labeled as specifically.

I thought the better-labeled chart of his adult life was notable where he identifies significant events in his own chronology along with the corresponding age.

18 - leave home
22 - evil gf, wrong major
23 - self-maximize
25 - grad school
26 - crazy gf, bad job
28 - real job, move (city)
29 - bad roommates
31 - laid off
31-35 - uber, freedom as freelancer, dream job
36 - COVID lockdowns
39 - hoe_math

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Some comments on his X post about the same "The Chopped Epidemic" short.

He didn't realize in his 20s how exceptional he was because he had no trouble with apps because he was so buff & handsome. He was getting 3 dates/week and considered himself Top 10%.

Then one day he stopped getting online attention at 33 when he hit the male wall and dropped to a "6ish, 7ish range (the land of the dead)". His hairline receded and his face "lost its youth". Which made him empathize with other chuds and made him sad.


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Another one of his followers telling him to be just be a passport bro and go find a "28 y/o in Rural Europe".

hoe_math has been pretty consistent in his complete rejection in traveling abroad to find a mate. Other than a brief border crossing to Canada, I don't believe he's ever left the USA.

Also one of his recently ranked Top 10 "Hoe's hoes" agrees, encouraging him to go raid the Balkans.

If I had money from getting a job at age 23, I'd have done fine, but women only liked me for sex and left when it got emotional because I didn't have anything. Just a floor mattress and an old car.

So now I BARELY just started making money, and I don't wanna marry a 40 year old woman or a 25 year old who looks at me like a meal ticket.

It's not even worth leaving the house.I'm just gonna spend my time explaining it to the guys who are 23 NOW.

hoe_math neither enjoyed being a boy toy nor a sugar daddy.

 

[AMHOLIO]

He didn't realize in his 20s how exceptional he was because he had no trouble with apps because he was so buff & handsome. He was getting 3 dates/week and considered himself Top 10%.

Then one day he stopped getting online attention at 33 when he hit the male wall and dropped to a "6ish, 7ish range (the land of the dead)". His hairline receded and his face "lost its youth". Which made him empathize with other chuds and made him sad.

This is so embarrasing. I can't stop laughing.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

He didn't realize in his 20s how exceptional he was because he had no trouble with apps because he was so buff & handsome. He was getting 3 dates/week and considered himself Top 10%.

Then one day he stopped getting online attention at 33 when he hit the male wall and dropped to a "6ish, 7ish range (the land of the dead)". His hairline receded and his face "lost its youth". Which made him empathize with other chuds and made him sad.

I'm gonna call bullshit on Hoey's take because as a general rule, men don't play by the same rules as women and if he somehow had gone from hero to zero as soon as hit 33, I'm gonna wager there was a lot more going on that actually caused that.

 

[Steinercard]

I will agree with HoeMath that sex tourism and passport bro shit is retarded. Autistic, bald, 40 year olds genuinely believe those filipina and chinese women actually love them after just ariving in Thailand. It's like watching Chris Chan earnestly describe the dimensional merge. He desperately wants to believe it. Good on HoeMath for not being suckered in to such obvious delusions. But his standards are fucked and he's too narasistic to lower his standards.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

I will argue that sex tourism is different in that guys partaking in it aren't under any delusions that desperate Asian girls love them, they are just getting pussy on the cheap. Passport bros on the other hand are legitimately retarded enough to believe that some 5/10 Asian hooker loves their dorky ass for their "personality".

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

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hoe_math being grandiose again declaring that reprints of his two-year-old self-assembled Ken Wilber research Levels chat will "revolutionize several fields at the same time" & "going to make understanding and explaining psychology so stupidly easy that millions of people are gonna be embarrassed that they didn't see it before."

But of course, he's not being completely benevolent.

And you're gonna give me money. And I'm gonna spend some of it on that cheese that has the crunchy cheese crystals in it because it's fancy.

The first comment on the post for me what surprisingly a hater, particularly one with which hoe_math didn't immediately become bellicose.

I heard him complain that one of his more recent charts for sale, his "Situationship Evasion" arrows chart didn't actually sell that well, so he started giving it away. It's tough to be a pseudointellectual infographic artist, always having to dig deep to find the next viral cartoon chart meme.


Archive of dead Patreon link to the chart



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More evidence that he's the most unfocused, unproductive mopiest retired manwhore autist redpilled cartoonist out there.

There's some evidence in the thread/his Twitter that he does have some "behind the scenes" person helping him with his "tweetbook" he continually alludes to, but isn't published.

He also made an open callout on Twitter a few months back for the equivalent of an online personal assistant to handle all his day-to-day procedural stuff, but he apparently never followed through.



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Here's hoe_math RTing fellow minor lolcow Carl Benjamin/Sargon of Akkad as a Muslim chides Carl over The Great Replacement Theory and mass migration in the UK. That it's already too late, the Bongs are conquered and Islam has won.

Only really notable that I don't know if I've ever seen the two interact before.



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Along the same vein, here he is RTing Tommy Robinson, British provocateur. about migrant crime across the pond.



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Apparently his old nemesis from his first ever livestream debate opponent from his "Sex Fight with Macken Murphy" from 2023 doesn't have hoe_math blocked despite Murphy being more of a male feminist academic type and hoe_math's fairly radical shift to dissident right political views on Twitter since.



Macken references some research from 1983/2016 that only 8% of women (presently? historically?) worldwide has sole discretion in their mate choices, compared to 31% of men. I don't understand what the combo "Alternative" slice representing 18% on both slices represents. But Macken's sources claim there is strong parental involvement in mate choice in 90% of marriages on the female side worldwide.

hoe_math comes over the top, advocating for bringing that 8% of free Western women choosing their mates down to zero, using laws preferably.

 

[NoBueno]

I'm gonna call bullshit on Hoey's take because as a general rule, men don't play by the same rules as women and if he somehow had gone from hero to zero as soon as hit 33, I'm gonna wager there was a lot more going on that actually caused that.

The problem I have with these content farms it encourages blame shifting. The people watching don't want to feel it's "their fault" for something, so videos like these feel good to watchers. This goes through a myriad of topics. But in this case, it's about Men blame shifting to Women because "I'm bald and old, don't exercise, and have no money" why don't women like me? Theres never an encouragement of self-examination or of the underpinning systems. Because that is difficult, and people don't like difficult. Easier to say "ALL women are assholes", that will get you the clicks, then they can go back to modded Skyrim with their harem of loli wives in peace

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

I made a hoe_math related post in the Conservative Mysticism discussion thread about Matt finding symbology all around him in crystal shops and dating apps. And him rightly calling out New Age woo peddlers as using the Papyrus font to steal valor from actual ancient wisdom traditions.



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Here is hoe_math in Jared Taylor's replies. I don't know exactly how to describe Taylor. He's an old hat White more senior White Nationalist type who has some sort of ties to Japan (military brat?). He was banned for years like Molyneux and Fuentes on Twitter, but was let back on within the last year. He heads up some sort of White advocacy group/conference called American Renaissance.

Anyhoo, hoe_math kind of gives a strange reply here. Unlike Taylor and a lot of the anti-immigration, anti-Great Replacement Theory types, he doesn't actually want POC and illegals to be deported or remigrated.

He's apparently down with the billionaire industrialist class exploiting illegals and immigrants for cheap labor. Only hoe_math's version seems to be more along sadist and eugenicist reasons. With a lot more sterilization and torture.



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Here hoe_math is warning the West to clean their rooms before the Old Testament God comes back to take us all out with a Great Flood.
This theme sort of goes off on Ancient Aliens tangent where hoe_math posits that we may be living more in a Matrix Revolutions Zion scenario or perhaps an Elron Hubbard Scientology one where human civilization gets cyclically destroyed and rebuilt by higher powers. Or that we are simply projections of Ancient Alien DNA like Scientology or the Prometheus Alien prequel. (Movie references are my own narrative analogies, not hoe_math's).

 

[AMHOLIO]

Scientology

It's a wonder he didn't get picked up by the cult. He seems like the type who'd go for it.

 

[Steinercard]

One last post about hoe_math's Mysticism essay.

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So the Take Home Message, TL; DR of his ancient wisdom gobbledygook essay is that even if you aren't a Chad & even if Zoomer girls are skanky & disloyal, you still have to go out & try to smash anyway because some Old World pagan deity compels it to be so.

He's also getting pretty close to declaring himself a prophet.

This is another of those occasions where I'd agree with Hoe Math if he wasn't such a pretentious faggot. In general as a bloke you should choose to either pursue women or not. If a woman is a whore, avoid her. You can actually choose not to be with a slag. If every woman around you is a slag then don't date and work on yourself till the right woman comes. Also be social. Chudposting on social media all day won't get you laid. And relationships should happen. Not be sought after. Because that's where the danger lies. Letting things happen naturally with women as opposed to forcing things will give you power as a man that no woman will ever take away from you. Stop being emotionally and sexually needy. It's actually easy.

This should be common sense and not given to you as esoteric advice by a seething and coping manwhore who desperately wants to turn the clocks back and is making that your problem.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

Dunno about you guys but I personally can’t wait for Hoey’s own Rudyard-style schizo breakdown. That shit is gonna be epic.

 

[YautjaWeeb]

Sounds like he's ready to pop. The latest "bird hands" video started off strong but devolved into showing off his pigeon chest and sperging. Holy shit ~700k subscribers.