2025 Israel vs Iran War

If Dimona is targeted, that's a massive F to israeli nuclear programme as well as the cheapest dirtiest bomb they can muster up. Most of Israel becomes more unlivable than Chernobyl
The April 1945 Fuhrerbunker energy in this thread has risen exponentially in the last 24 hours. No stalker child, Steiner is not coming. Enjoy Jew prison
 
Germany’s Chancellor Merz: U.S. to decide today whether to join Iran war
BREAKING: Two senior Israeli officials told Axios that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yisrael Katz, and Israel’s security establishment believe Trump is expected to join the war soon and strike Iran’s underground Fordow enrichment facility.
If he "officially" joins, he will kill his MAGA movement. It'll be interesting to see, at the very least.

TES is real but a lot of people joined because they didn't want more of this shit happening.
 
If he joins, he will kill his MAGA movement. It'll be interesting to see for sure.
No he won't. Polls show 75 percent of Trump voters support US bombing of Iran


Majorities of every political category – 81% of Republicans, 80% of Democrats and 68% of voters not affiliated with either major party – are at least somewhat concerned that Iran may be developing a nuclear weapon.

Seventy-three percent (73%) of Republicans, 50% of Democrats and 48% of unaffiliated voters would support the United States taking military action against Iran’s nuclear weapons program.

Seventy-five percent (75%) of those who voted for Trump in last year’s election would support a U.S. strike to destroy Iran’s nuclear weapons program, compared to 42% of Kamala Harris voters.


US and Israeli meetings are happening side by side timewise
 
This is childish.
Of course, I'm just a "mediocre" non-Jew and, therefore, inferior, so you can disregard what I say entirely because "jew" = superior. You may as well leave it at that. That said...

You'll have to accept that the villains in your story will never admit they are villains, or just stay malding about the Jews being the winners and saying what they want to justify their actions.
This will be what it is; I personally have no power to prevent it, but this is a discussion forum and we're discussing the unprovoked attack the State of Israel launched on the [Islamic] Republic of Iran. Questions of morality in such circumstances will always be - and should be - asked.


You could reconcile yourself to the world and history a bit more fully, and abandon moral categories for evaluating what was basically always ethically justified to the actor.
Given that quote from @Catch The Rainbow that I broke down a few posts ago, I'm not sure "ethics" truly enters into it.

The Arabs aren't leaving Egypt either, those settler colonist bastards.
Is there a particular reason they should? They've been there continuously for something like several-hundred years or so, yes?


Is there a time threshold where you won't be mad at hypocrisy in politics?
The issue is quite a bit more complex than "hypocrisy in politics", friend.


Are you mad about those awful Prussians conquering the rest of Germany and then inventing the welfare state? Talk about some hypocrites.
You'll have to come to the realization that events of antiquity - or even of a brief hundred or so years prior - have little, if any, bearing on things literally happening as we speak.


Americans are not different. Americans were and many remain quite convinced God gave us this land, and the Indians were a bunch of mouthbreathers whose ineffectuality at warfare is proof of America's manifest destiny.
These United States certainly have their fair share of innocent blood on their hands, it's true. It's also true that despite it's failings, these United States have been a tremendous force for good in the world. I'm not sure you can make that case for the modern State of Israel.

And yes, there are American religious fanatics [mostly ardent supporters of the State of Israel] who also believe in what was once known as Manifest Destiny. How often are the deci

America should never fight for what is good, but for what is strategically wise. It is always a bad idea to break an alliance with a group of people who are strong, generally united, smart, rich, and good at fighting, and friendly to you, for a group of people who are weak, generally disunited, stupid, nigger rich, and bad at fighting.
Being an ally doesn't mean rubber-stamping any and all activities of said ally.


You would gain a lot of advantage in your life if you stop thinking about politics and history in terms of moral categories which are never sufficiently descriptive of human behavior or human nature. You should think about benefits, costs, and assessing the real potentials of what will happen.
Real potential you say? Remind me again how many weeks away from a nuclear weapon Iran has been for the past thirty years? Over that same time-frame, how many acts of aggression has the State of Israel initiated in the name of Jewish supremacy and what has been the result of these collective actions? How much "peace" has the State of Israel won for itself in those decades? What has happened, what is happening and what will continue to happen is that people will continue to object to and "resist" - for lack of a better term - the punitive and racist acts of the ME's worst neighbor, to all our collective detriment.

There's no good future for the Islamic Republic of Iran, and there's no case for abandoning Israel to deal with those crazies when they threaten everything the US built in the Cold War and were the engine of the awful costs of our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
I'm not sure where I called for an outright end to the pragmatic Israel-US relationship, so I'm not sure why you're even suggesting it.

I'm not even going to bother addressing this twaddlespeak about Iraq and Afghanistan.

You are expressing a child's moralizing view of politics. "THE BAD GUYS SHOULD SAY THEY ARE BAD BECAUSE THEY ARE SO BAD AND AWFUL SO I AM NOT MAD AT THEIR HYPOCRISY BUT THEY ARE JUST SO EVIL," is what I took from this...
You're entitled to your opinion.

...and you sound extremely angry at a group of people you have decided without a lot of clear or inarguable evidence is evil...
:story:


...because they settled in a place...
Let's be very clear; the modern State of Israel, as in the land that generally conforms to that within the boundary of the 1922 partition plan which separated "Jewish Palestine" and "Arab Palestine" is, in significant part [not entirely], land stolen from its rightful inhabitants.

The actual area either inhabited by Jews continuously from antiquity [and extremely small area] or legitimately purchased from the mid-1800s onward for "Jewish" cultivation and settlement is a rather small part of the whole.

While I put little stock in the United Nations partition plan of the late 1940s, it more accurately laid out the dimensions of a country based on population centers than the 1922 partition plan.

They didn't just "settle" there, they came in, terrorized the inhabitants in an attempt to expand "Jewish" territory and when the rightful landowners resisted they murdered them. Because the land was "theirs" by "right", and they weren't going to share it with anyone that wasn't willing to put themselves under the political control of a "jewish" state.

...made war to secure it, made war to defend it...
Yes, in fact the people who refused to leave their land or subject themselves to an alien authority didn't particularly like being ethnically cleansed from land they legitimately owned, any more than you would if a squatter one day made camp in your back yard and subsequently engaged in violent acts in an attempt to force you out. So those people attempted to form an alliance to take back what was taken by force. And, to a degree, they did. And now they live under a military occupation, treated as less than human - certainly not equals - because to this day they continue to be angry that what was theirs was stolen from them and they haven't just happily accepted the situation.

...and continue to make war against the nations that are developing capabilities to destroy them...
There are consequences to stealing someone else's land and, subsequently, being a bad neighbor.

The falsely-called "palestinians" may be among the shit of humanity, but you'd react no different where you in their shoes.


...while other groups are intransigently attacking/counterattacking them for decades.
Again, actions have consequences, as does a misbegotten belief in your own "superiority".
 
Trump now yelling UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER! on Truth

Steve is not only running Agenda-Free TV and the most-watched air fryer in the world, he's also president of the United States

I do Not have Any information Regarding the Supreme Leader of Iran... HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE HE IS! LOOK AT THAT! UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER! - President Steve Trump
 
Iran’s Chief of Staff claims that the attacks on Israel so far were intended as a warning to deter, and says punitive operations will be launched soon, according to Sky Arabiya.

USATODAY - The moves by the U.S. military have been made with an eye toward protecting American troops stationed in the Middle East, a senior Defense official said​


No matter your ideological opinion on Israel you have to give them their flowers, they don't bluff and bluster like the Islamic nations do.
Israel has been extremely deficient in this area, it is a literal miracle that they're able to do this. In January they wouldn't have been able to pull this off

Again, actions have consequences, as does a misbegotten belief in your own "superiority".
hey faggot, like i pointed out, that was written by a non Jew. you wasted your time seething over a nonjew's observations of the populist antisemitism he lived through
 
Iran has been launching smaller salvos of missiles at Israel over the past day because its capabilities have been degraded by Israeli strikes, the IDF believes.

According to IDF assessments, Iran is not trying to conserve missiles for a longer war, but rather, they are struggling to coordinate larger attacks.

The majority of Iran's top military leadership has been eliminated in strikes, and some 40% of its ballistic missile launchers have been destroyed, according to the IDF.

The IDF has also said it has been "hunting down" missile launchers and thwarting the attacks.

Iran was launching dozens of missiles at a time in the first days of the conflict, but in the past day has been launching only a handful at a time. However, those attacks have been more frequent.

Because of the smaller missile attacks, the Home Front Command removed its pre-launch alert, which instructed civilians in areas potentially under threat from Iranian ballistic missiles to be prepared to head to bomb shelters.

It is believed to be harder for the IDF to detect the pre-launch preparations compared to when barrages comprise dozens of missiles.
 
Unless we get confirmation from other news sources, it is bullshit.
The not long after this screenshot, the ugly crone presenter said women in Islamic countries are less oppressed than in western countries including Israel. As an example, she says Mia Schem was perfectly safe and also not in any danger of sexually assault when captive of Hamas as a soldier.

Except Mia Schem was done with military service when taken hostage, having completed her mandatory period and was working at a tattoo parlor, and kidnapped while attending the Nova festival. And she was sexually assaulted while a Hamas hostage, and they tortured her by hurting her arm that was shot. The newscaster said Hamas has Islamic values and regard women as holy and would never defile them.

I wonder if anyone in Iran actually watches this stuff.
 
It's really interesting how detached online/twitter MAGA is from IRL MAGA to the point where they cannot measure the pulse of the party correctly
There are not enough rainbows in the world
That's what a lot of people voted for; no more foreign conflicts, no more world policing and all it took is for Bibi to pick up a phone and say "You vill declare war, goyim" and back to square one.
 
The Islamic Republic, like Hamas, has a really good and rational option at hand: give it up. Hamas should relinquish control of Gaza, agree to the exile of its leadership, and disarm. The Islamic Republic should agree to let go of enriched uranium they don't need anyway. These options, considering their situations, are the most reasonable for their national interests and for self-preservation.

What prevents them isn't interest, but rather notions like "pride," "honor," "resistance"—and, ultimately, fundamentalism. The Iranian regime is much smarter than Hezbollah and Hamas, and it has much more to lose. They should save themselves, the world, and, most importantly, their own people from this needless cycle—rooted in a deep and ongoing mistake: the belief that they can cheat their way to the nuclear threshold or weapon, and that they can continue supporting every terrorist cell across the region.

That era is over. It died on October 7. And the German Chancellor is right: Israel is doing the world’s dirty work. It’s just that the Supreme Leader, Sinwar, and Nasrallah didn’t get the memo—or wouldn’t have listened.

Sinwar and Nasrallah are now dead. Iran can still turn to rationality.
 
You dumb nigger...
LOL...

...this is written by Sartre. Sartre was a non Jewish French philosopher...
I didn't say who wrote it; I said - as you quoted - it perfectly encapsulates the Jewish supremacist mindset. Beyond that, if that is what Sartre got out of "observing" the goings-on in Vichy France, he wasn't nearly the intellectual he's purported to be.
 
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