2025 Israel vs Iran War

[David Floyd George]

Did Trump do that? I've seen some Israeli news sources talk about it but I don't think I've seen anything of Trump doing it rather I've just seen him continue, perhaps facetiously continue to say Iran needs to negotiate.

I'm wondering about this as well. I don't recall him saying anything like this, and a quick GIMF gives zero results. At this point I'm chalking it down to "monomaniacal wingnat making shit up again."

 

[merpalerpaherp]

What would even replace the current regime? Surely one that is friendly to Russia and probably China and Pakistan too all of whom at best are indifferent to both Israel and the US because I can't imagine Putin being happy if the US sets up shop near their sphere of influence.

Also who is to say the next regime wouldn't want to pursue nuclear weapons anyway just for the sake of insurance whether it is Israel, Russia, or whomever.

The only option I saw was a video someone posted earlier today, some exiled guy. Pretty sure he's a plant and wouldn't be taken seriously enough, we needed a moderate from inside the current regime to organize a coup from within for the best outcome on all sides imo. I don't think that is likely at this stage or Ayatollah would be dead in his sadaam hole already.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

Muslims don't believe in forgiveness, especially not for infidels or apostates. If they did, the Middle East wouldn't be a trashfire of thousand-year-old blood feuds.

it was never about america supporting the jew. america supported the ayatollah and look what great friends he was even back in the coup's new days. we essentially put them in power in the first place through destabilization.

muslims hate christians and jews because they're told to convert or kill. it's not about the fact that we just have different cultures, it's about the fact that our culture isn't islam. that is unacceptable, and the holy book that guides muslims directly commands them to convert everyone possible, kill them, or subjugate them and force them to pay a tax. if the united states stopped supporting israel 100% tomorrow, it would just change the type of propaganda and the narrative being fed by islamists, not to mention it would only result in the hard right who so thoroughly hate jews accusing people of being secret hebrews, taking under the table hebrew money.

I'm not watching that

What happened to the pictures of shot down Israeli F-35s and a female pilot as well as the “a surprise that the world will remember for centuries” that was promised earlier tonight by Iranian state-run media?

like i said, that video was an abomination. did anyone actually believe iran had shot down an f-35 other than the retarded camel-piss drinkers? those images were obvious photoshops and AI works.

 

[draggs]

more and more countries are flocking to China

America's soft power is fading away around the globe

lolwut

Which ones

African countries are defaulting left and right on their Chinese loans, Italy pulled out of Belt and Road, Panama bent the knee to the US, Argentina under Milei hates commies again, all of China's neighbors not named Best Korea, Russia, and Burma (at least the military government) fear and resent China, India doesn't like the Aksai Chin thing still going on, America obviously doesn't like China, Canada resents China for trying to bully them over arresting some chink at the request of the USA, Australia fears and resents China...

Foreign direct investment in China dropped 90% from 2021 to 2024. ~$344 billion in 2021 to ~$18 billion in 2024. Total for those years: ~$603 billion. Total direct foreign investment in the USA in the same period: ~$1.353 trillion. FDI in China has rebounded somewhat so far this year but still pales in comparison to the amount of FDI in the US. Yeah more and more countries are flocking to China, America's soft power is fading away lulz

 

[31. Januar]

I mean, yeah, its obviously delusional to believe Islam isn't an imperialist philosophy and that it is compatible with western civilization. They don't really hide it.
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This wewuzerry that muslims always try to pull will never cease to both piss me off and amuse me because
A. The muslim invasion of Spain was carried out with incredibly significant Jewish support, and would not have succeeded as well as it did without said Jewish support
B. Both pan-Iberian caliphates which would dominate Spain quickly fractured into disunited warlord states, on again and off again fighting either with themselves or with Christians, or with Christians against themselves
C. Were entirely annihilated because the Iberians refused to surrender entirely, to the point that both the caliphates and taifas had to tolerate Christians operating within their territory.

There was an old /his/ post I recall. "Those that posit that Al-Andalus benefited the native population, would be enraged and appauled at the idea that European colonialism benefited Africa, Asia, and the Americas."

 

[David Floyd George]

Trump showed his word means nothing, and that he does not negotiate in good faith.

This is the second time you've claimed this. Prove it.

 

[Taser Confetti]

Muslims don't believe in forgiveness

Like Jews still seething about Hadrian, the Spanish Inquisition and Leo Frank?

 

[JCVD_Fan]

the comparison isn't quite applicable. As of right now at least the Saudi's are playing ball with Israel to an extent. which wasn't the case with Iran even when Saddam was in Iraq. So pointing out that Iran took that place after Iraq is a "well duh" moment because Iran was already anti-Israel

The populations of these Muslim countries that tolerate Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan etc. are still 95%+ extremely anti-Israel and their leaders have to issue token condemnations of Israel to avoid a revolution against them. If their rivalry with Iran who they see as the bigger threat currently is settled, they won't be able to ignore this problem forever.

 

[Sammich]

I agree with you but sperging in the thread does nothing tbh

Very fair, i'm done.

 

[msd]

I hope that Muslim guy i played payday 1 with isn't just forever blocked from playing it with me now.

Fuck Iran, give me my friend back
Fuck you too israel, stop trying to drag us into thia

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

Trump showed his word means nothing, and that he does not negotiate in good faith.

But, Trump was the person who pulled out of the original Iran deal in the first place. And his deal with Syria, which is he doing in good faith, shows as long as you don't get in the way of US proxies, you're not going to have any problems. And I'm not sure what you mean by "flocking to China." China is still heavily dependent on the U.S. and so is the E.U. Even China "bullies" its neighbors which is why Russia, their biggest ally, doesn't even trust them and have fought border wars against them.

And your argument doesn't even make any sense, because you think countries are going to flock to a country where the cost of doing business with them is higher for them.

 

[Lovely Kin]

Burma (at least the military government)

Myanmar is such a mess that even their own ethnic groups are divided on China whether they hate or love China I think the Wa State and their weird little government likes China?

 

[Meat Target]

This literally doesn't matter at all. Trump showed his word means nothing, and that he does not negotiate in good faith. This is in addition to his attempts to bully other countries in the past months with his trade war nonsense, which was what initiated the flocking to China.

"He's not negotiating in good faith!", protested the lying taqiyya cocksucker.

 

[draggs]

The populations of these Muslim countries that tolerate Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan etc. are still 95%+ extremely anti-Israel and their leaders have to issue token condemnations of Israel to avoid a revolution against them. If their rivalry with Iran who they see as the bigger threat currently is settled, they won't be able to ignore this problem forever.

Are we going on about the Arab street again? The Arab street is a paper tiger that has got cucked again and again and again

 

[Meat Target]

A. The muslim invasion of Spain was carried out with incredibly significant Jewish support, and would not have succeeded as well as it did without said Jewish support

Yeah, I'm gonna need a citation on this one, dawg. Not saying it ain't true, but there weren't ZOG-backed do-gooder NGOs back then. The Jews had been diaspora'd pretty hard ever since Hadrian.

 

[Rekieta’s Broken Penis]

Yeah, I'm gonna need a citation on this one, dawg. Not saying it ain't true, but there weren't ZOG-backed do-gooder NGOs back then. The Jews had been diaspora'd pretty hard ever since Hadrian.

Why don’t you two retards shit up another thread instead?

 

[WhoBusTank69]

So did the jews destroy iran yet?

If they got rid of their problems they would have no reason to ask for help.

 

[Taser Confetti]

Yeah, I'm gonna need a citation on this one, dawg. Not saying it ain't true, but there weren't ZOG-backed do-gooder NGOs back then. The Jews had been diaspora'd pretty hard ever since Hadrian.

Just wait until you find out Jews fought alongside Muslims during the crusades like the Battle of Jerusalem in the 1st Crusade.

 

[Screamer_2]

This literally doesn't matter at all. Trump showed his word means nothing, and that he does not negotiate in good faith. This is in addition to his attempts to bully other countries in the past months with his trade war nonsense, which was what initiated the flocking to China.

When considering this, it's also worth noting the way NATO handled descalation negotiations around Ukraine. There's Boris Johnson getting Ukraine to back out of peace negotiations. The Minsk 2 accords were NATO delaying the war to build UK Ukraine's defences and was a pretence of an attempt at stopping it.

It's not new to Trump but with everything Trump. He just tells you how the sausage is made. People get outraged he openly drops the pretence.

 

[draggs]

Yeah, I'm gonna need a citation on this one, dawg. Not saying it ain't true, but there weren't ZOG-backed do-gooder NGOs back then. The Jews had been diaspora'd pretty hard ever since Hadrian.

https://escholarship.org/content/qt17h688pf/qt17h688pf.pdf?t=mjq4mb

tldr no the Jews were not important to the Muslim invasion and conquest of the Iberian Peninsula. The first history of the invasion and conquest that blames Jews for anything was written 400 years after. Earlier histories make no mention of Jews doing jack shit