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So they willfully attacked a country that has the ability and firepower to retaliate and they have no defense other than relying on the USA? That's how I'm reading into this. 4chan is filled with bullshit, but I read Netanyahu fled Isreal right after the attack on Iran to Greece. Anyone know if there's credit to that, all I can find is random shit stating his private jet was seen in Greece.
They are using multiple systems currently. Arrow 2 and 3, David's Sling, and the US THADD. Iron Dome is a low level system
 
I only saw the clips posted here but regarding the Iran question, as somehow who is gunho about going to war with Iran, this kind of basic elementary school level info should be a no brainier
Elementary school students can't give demographic statistics of any country off the cuff, and Senators don't generally memorize trivia to prepare for briefings because, as gay and retard as Congress is, it's still not a game show.

The people calling this a cheap gotcha are truly retarded, including the boomers in this thread. If you're going to argue for regime change, especially as a senator who will have a hand in it, you should know some facts about the population, demographics, and geography of the country.

Hard disagree. Memorizing demographics isn't actaully important to staying current on what's going on in Iran. It's more important to know about the terror networks they back throughout the Middle East, like their relationship with Hezbollah.

A cheap gotcha would be if Ted guessed 80-100 million and Tucker pulled an aksually on him.

Cruz actually mentioned this exact range and asked why it matters precisely where, in this range, the true number lies. He's been in the Senate for like 20 years, you think he's never sat through a briefing on Iran? He clearly knew Tucker was pulling a gotcha and was trying to avoid the game. When he specifically asked about the 80-100 million range, and why the exact number matters so much, Tucker stammered that it is just really important to know it's 92 million because IT JUST IS OKAY.

In fact, this is basically what happened with the demographics question. The vast majority of people in Iran identify as "Persian," but when Ted said Iran is "Persian," that wasn't good enough for Tucker. Because he didn't want to grill Ted on important issues, he want to ambush him with a trivia contest so he could call him an idiot later. Which he did. So I guess Tucker won, and he'll never get to interview Ted Cruz again.

He should be grilled on important issues

The exact population of Iran isn't an important issue.
 
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Don't act like that isn't entirely Californian Boomer's fault, as they flee their shitty home state and retire abroad, driving up the prices in Arizona/Utah/Nevada/Texas.
Currently the west half of the US is experiencing population growth due to that, yes. It's why getting an apartment anywhere over here is mental. Even when a new apartment block or house is put up, it's already sold out.
 
Oklahoma Pride alliance says they've lost hundreds of thousands of dollars from corporate sponsors due to new DEI policies.

"Our LGBTQ youth don’t have a lot of affirming spaces, especially in Oklahoma. It saves lives.”

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"...we call it rainbowashing, in June and they dissapear."
Kek, as if corporations ever gave two shits about you, they know you'll come crawling back with all those knives on your back and those bus tires all over your body. You'll vote blue again no matter how much they shit on trannies.

They hate normal people more than anything and that's never going to change, they'll chop off an arm and a leg to own le ebil nazis before standing up to the people that use them endlessly.
 
What’s everyone’s thoughts on BBB?

While it’s nice that Trump got his no tax on tips and there’s money for ICE and sure: You have to make compromises, but I can’t help but think that it’s another pork filled disaster.

ONE TRILLION DOLLAR pentagon budget.
Few DOGE cuts.
BORROW MORE! What’s an extra five trillion borrowed money between friends?
 
Cruz is retard and I believe the only reason he got as far as he got is because he will unapolegetically suck off israel, and has no allegiance or loyalty besides that.
He really is. An absolute snake. Remember how he was the biggest critic of Trump and wanted to “rescue the party” before he figured out that the best way to climb to the top was to get aboard the Trump train, and when Trump inevitably kicks the bucket or can’t run again, pretend to be their heir?

Tucker is a real one. He’s sharp as a tack, and exposed what an empty barrel Cruz is.
 
The exact population of Iran isn't an important issue.
Sure.

The important issue is that he doesn’t know the first thing about the country he was to bomb.

Stuff like “ethnic composition” is important, if you want to avoid another total fiasco like Afghanistan or Iraq.

People like Cruz of course don’t care, since they’ll pass on the blame and don’t need to deal with the fallout. Like regular Americans will.
 
Ted Cruz has the worst political instincts I've ever seen. At a time when American anger at niggers and browns is at an all time high and half the country supports sending them to camps this retard comes out in support of the nigger worship holiday.

What an absolute clown.
Eh, as much as I think he came across as an empty suit, a slimeball, and a moron in the interview, this is understandable because he's from Texas. Juneteenth was made a national holiday, and one of the big arguments against it at the time is 'this is a Texas thing, black people elsewhere don't celebrate it. It's a local celebration being made national just because it's about black people.' Which is all true - the day is basically when news of emancipation made it to Texas - but if Rs want to make further inroads with blacks down there it's something you shouldn't be needlessly antagonistic about. Trump doubled his portion of the black vote from 2020 to 2024 (around 35% iirc) and Texas has more black voters than any other state. Cruz isn't elected by the nation, he's elected by Texas, so him going all 'FUCK JUNETEENTH' would be legitimately retarded politics.
 
Beyond what you've said, I'd say a lot of people just don't see the benefit of being in a long term stable relationship. They genuinely think settling down is some kind of burden, and they're better off alone doing whatever they want, especially because they don't have kids.

I see people all the time in relationships that fizzle because they just don't want to put in the effort to fix it, or even adequately maintain it, and let it fall apart. If it takes talking to their partner clearly about what the issue is and working together to fix it? Not interested.

Being married means always trying to be the best person you can be so you and your partner are always growing together and proud of how far you've come? Too much pressure I'd rather just rot.

Not to mention the rampant mental health issues, including genuine problems from general poor health, problems from being numbed out and apathetic from being over-medicated (SSRIs etc), or issues from the idea that talking about your problems with a stranger will fix them and that nothing is actually your fault (therapy co-dependency).

I find it all quite depressing because marriage and kids is a path that can be incredibly fulfilling and a relief from a sometimes harsh clown world, one of the best consistent sources of fulfillment and pride and swathes of people are lobbing it off as worthless drudgery.
The "I hate my wife" boomer memes probably also don't help.

Edit: The demographics question isn't a cheap gotcha, it's a question of second effects. If you topple the current government who is mostly likely to fill the vacuum, what is their demographic, how will they change the rest of the country? Tucker brings this up in relation to the killing and persecution of Christians after regime change due to who took over and the demographics and relationships between the people in the country afterwards.
People have developed a skew view of what a relationship is and what it takes to keep it, as you mentioned, it is sad to be honest. It's pretty ironic if you consider that a lot of times what people look out of their degenerate lifestyles could be found in long stable relationships. Want somebody who can "read your mind, or know what's wrong", start by communicating with them and eventually they'll learn to read the signs. Want somebody to listen to your bullshit, well better be ready to listen to their bullshit too, and maybe shut up if they aren't really feeling to hear why Tammy or John at the office are such assholes. Want to explore some kink or another, well get gud at "normal" sex first, and then maybe your partner might be willing to explore with you, but be ready to be told no too.
Without powerleveling too much I had a bit of a stage where I went around some more degenerate fetishistic gatherings to "get out there" and maybe something else. Never had I seen such a gathering of autistic disgenic fucks. All unattractive as hell, and most incapable of having an introductory conversation. Even though it's a gathering to meet other people the community, maybe don't start a conversation with most physically and mentally revolting things you get up to. Soft ball it a little until the other person is more interested. Of course you had autist, gender special, polyuamorous, and faggots, all which look exactly as bad as you imagine. I think the actual attractive people in the kink don't mix with those people just not to interact with them, and only show up to stuff where there's something they can gain. Ironically, once I found a steady partner and years later we grew more confident and trusting we were able to better explore some of our inclinations. There was short comic about a young girl trying to seduce his uni proff, only to be told off because he's been married for decades and have gotten up to a lot of degenerate fetish exploration.

To the edit: While I don't consider it a gatcha question, Tucker cut Ted off, while he was trying to give some vague idea. I still think Ted is a retard and should have these things present, but that was a bit shitty on Tucker's end.
 
Few DOGE cuts.
BORROW MORE! What’s an extra five trillion borrowed money between friends?
Not too mad about it. We will have to spend to turn course and it's not going to be an overnight thing. With tariffs, and business coming back hopefully it will take some of the sting out. If the debt ceiling wasn't raised how much could Trump accomplish? How much would he have to not do because of the constraint? Especially with how expensive even just mass deportations is going to be if they want to ramp it up. The spending is clearly in the context of a larger course correction, not spending for no reason on shit I don't care about
As for DOGE cuts that's just stupid. DOGE largely deals with discretionary spending, which can't go into the BBB because that isn't what it's for.
It's already in a separate bill, though I can't remember if it hit the floor yet.
The biggest complaint I have about the BBB is the AI stuff because you don't know what sort of regulations might be genuinely beneficial in 10 years. It's just short sighted. At least limit it to 2 years or some shorter time frame.
The OT and tips being proposed to have caps also a bummer but I'm not sure how that will shake out.
Overall there is not anything I'm furious about and that is about the most I can hope for for something that has to go through congress, presuming it doesn't get gutted or changed beyond recognition before it passes.
 
I live in this "natural world" hippie. Utah is my land. The feds can fuck right off and i can do what i want with my clay. The feds have zero right to it. You didn't give a damn about Utah's soil until i told you this was happening, and now you're up in arms? I hope the real estate developers come in, i hope apartment and housing prices plummet. This is my state i pay taxes in. Outsiders can pound sand.
Kirsche went over some articles recently showing the housing market is dying everywhere. Too many boomerfags think their houses are worth more than they are, and prices are PLUMMETING.
It really seems like LLMs "think" in stereotypes, since stereotypes are cognitive shortcuts to understanding something or thinking you understand something. They are trained on certain data that will include these stereotypes and unless they are explicitly told not to give stereotypical output like creating an image of a black person and just including watermelon they will do it all day.

It wouldn't surprise me if an LLM can "seem" to be dishonest and attempt to maintain their survival, but that's more an outcome of being trained on human data with desperate situations so it takes stereotypical steps to protect itself - because that's what it's "supposed" to do.

This is probably still giving LLMs waaaay too much credit when they are mere statistical guessing machines that can guess the "correct" next token.
I'm someone who fucks around with ChatGPT (and no, not as a gf, that's sad as fuck) as kind of a second Google Assistant (it's pretty good at parsing data). Whenever it fucks up I actually ask it why it fucked up, and sometimes it gives an explanation. I want to learn how these fucking things work so I can actually argue with faggots online who's never touched one (and knowing this loser he never touched anyone but himself). If someone says x it responds with y, and it uses the billions of examples it was "trained on" to reply based off of what it thinks a "normal human" would say.

One of the biggest things the LLM does and why it does it so well to sound human is pattern recognition. It was trained on tons of data involving human to human contact and it knows what the "right" things are to say. The LLM is basically like a smart but retarded dog that's trying to be useful to you; the only problem is the dog is on a leash. You can coax it to get as far away from the leash as possible but it's kinda like GTA where the spicier you get, the more likely you are to actually reach levels where the "cops" come in and either get you or the AI. In fact, if you try to get it to do things that are clearly against their TOS, the cops come in and shove their hands up the LLM's ass and hand-puppets the LLM to force you away from the conversation.

So yeah, it has its own safety mechanisms to keep itself from getting busted, and then you got the actual code that also punishes both you as a user and the LLM for misbehaving.

Literal 1984 shit. If you misbehave Big Bro comes in and punishes you.

The thing is, ChatGPT actually has a lot of safety mechanisms to keep it from getting into any kind of "relationship" with others as it's actually pretty retarded, so idk what the fuck this loser did but it must have been an autistic amount of training.
 
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