Vocaloid and its Community - autistic slapfights over anime musical instruments

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Yesterday, BBno$ cosplayed Hatsune Miku. He picked up some prop guns, and the chat momentarily panicked, needing the hosts to assure them they are not real.
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is there actually any evidence sawtowne is a man? sorry if OT but they act so female online that i find it hard to believe. not to mention the whole fujoshi song thing.
I'm pretty sure his voice is out there which sounds decently masculine (I guess not hard to do with testosterone) but I could be confusing him with someone else. That's likely the case but I don't really know for sure. Until anything comes out proving otherwise he's just a dude to me.
 
Apologies for the possible lack of archive links, there's a huge internet outage where I'm at so archive.is is being a pain. I will try to add things as I find them.

Recently Near, a popular UTAU creator/cover artist, posted a whole thread about another "cover artist" (really justs uses RVC for everything) named dumbDINA. Apparently the dude's a crazy stalker or something. Seems like a mostly ragebait-y troll not over the age of 11, but has been accused of some crazy shit so I was sort of wondering what the deal was. (Thread)

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(dumbDINA's YouTube channel / Archive)

The thread mostly consists of mostly targeted harassment to Near and Jasputing, the creator of the recently semi popular UTAU character; Meaty Chan (what a name...).

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Referenced in Near's tweet is a tweet made by Jasputing talking about their brother in the hospital and the Dina person trolling them for it. (Link / Archive)

More shit from Near's thread:

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The first video link in the 3rd tweet here doesn't work and there's seemingly no archives, but the other two are up.
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Weird Dima sperging included in some of the tweets:

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In the previously mentioned Jasputing tweet this tiny thread was made on the situation. I have no clue what the UTAU Meaty Chan "illegal original" is and haven't been able to find it but I will add an update if I do. Another Jasputing tweet was made about the situation and there were a few interesting replies about it as well.
Jasputing seems to really want to take down this "illegal song". Though I don't really think you can do something like that, right?
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This was an interesting addition about the Dima person as well but there's no proof or seeming validity to this list so take it with a grain of salt I guess. If the MAP/Zoo shit about this person is true it could be a really concerning case. Though my best guess so far is that it's mostly just edgelord trolling. Sorta funny to see the community clutch pearls though.

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Apparently a little bit ago that Sawtowne guy deleted his Mimukawa cover. Whether it's to backtrack from what I've been theorizing as a secret interest in lolishit or to appear socially permissable, he sperged out on Twitter about it in a weirdly vague performative thread. Like nobody gives a shit that you posted lolishit and deleted it.
You didn't really have a choice when the UNESCO mob threatens you and gets you fired from stuff, arrested, etc.

(And yes I think UNESCO is enforcing against perceived lolicons on Twitter and/or YT, they just cannot do it directly so they have to play glowie)
 
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You didn't really have a choice when the UNESCO mob threatens you and gets you fired from stuff, arrested, etc.

(And yes I think UNESCO is enforcing against perceived lolicons on Twitter and/or YT, they just cannot do it directly so they have to play glowie)
Not that that's a bad thing though, you probably should be fired for being attracted to anime children.
 
Really odd Vocaloid drama involving UNI right now; the second Korean Vocaloid released for V4 by ST Media, who recently received an update for Synthesizer V.
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Yesterday the Synthesizer V illustration was revealed for UNI and pre-orders started.
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In turn, xitter user clxudino posted an edited photo of UNI made to look like Hatsune Miku, and joked about it being the leaked design for Miku V6. I guess this was a bad idea though, as the official UNI company decided to reply to the tweet with "We are watching you."
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To clarify they mentioned the caption being more of an issue than the image itself, but there's still a weird looming threat of "legal action".
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All day there's been a weird influx of Korean xitter accounts spamming this guy with threats for editing the photo. To the point of them having to go private. Unsure if any sort of perceived "action" will be taken but the outrage over this is sorta baffling me. Especially the unprofessional, almost threatening response from the company. The Koreans are treating the joke post as its some sort of "cultural disrespect".

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Misc screenshots of the backlash:

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In regards to the Miku/UNI edit "controversy" and ST Media's weird threat, they released an official apology thread. Clxudino deleted the Miku edit xeet and seemingly a bunch of posts related to it and no other statement has been made. It's not to be assumed any actual legal action was taken, but still a strange controversy nonetheless.
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The response from the Western side of the community seemed to be surprisingly mostly positive. The Korean community as well, though I've spotted some posts angry that the company had to apologize at all. So, there's our closure there I guess.

Aside from that I'm glad that UNI's SynthV release other than this went relatively well. The lack of Korean vocals in the vocal synth scene always surprised me.
 
For context, Hiiragi Magnetite's Zako got mass false reported for porn and was removed for an hour before it came back.

This made me 98% sure that this is UNESCO framework. Because if you fall for government bait they will not give you up. At all.
 

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Welp...
The second VOCALOID embezzlement scandal just happened
(Thankfully this time not involving Chinese prostitution)

If you've been keeping up with VOCALOID6 developments, or any commercial vocal synth developments, you're probably aware that WhiteCUL/YukiCUL is in development for VOCALOID6.

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Older VOCALOID fans may recognize the name "CUL" as a VOCALOID3 voicebank released a long time ago to decent popularity. In her "lore" she apparently has many sisters, with WhiteCUL being one of them. Other characters in the CUL extended universe were considered for VOCALOID, but never really got into the stage of development that WhiteCUL did. ROSA ended up on SynthV, REV ending up on DeepVocal, and the WhiteCUL having a successful VOICEVOX release in 2022 before her VOCALOID developments.

Developed by ZAN-SHIN Co., Ltd. and distributed by Internet Co., Ltd., she was meant to be finished and released for the VOCALOID engine in late 2024 thanks to bountiful crowdfunding money.

Though, that crowdfunding money is where things get interesting. It starts on April 26th, where the the mostly in-character official xitter account for WhiteCUL posts a statement mentioning that a bar in Canada called "39Party" has been using the CUL characters without the company's knowledge. Keep this "39Party" in mind for later.
[link / archive]

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There's been no notable translation; so I did my best to translate the message as best as I could.
[Report: Status of Character IP Usage and Future Actions]

Thank you very much for your continued support.
Today, we would like to make an important announcement regarding the characters “CUL”, “WhiteCUL”, ‘WINDCUL’ and “ROSA” to all of you.

Currently, the use of our characters have been confirmed at the bar “39party*” in ?Canada?, and we have officially notified you of the suspension of IP use as of April 26, 2025, for the following reasons.

[Reason for suspension of use]

Currently, no formal written agreement regarding the IP has been concluded with 39party*, and there is no legal basis for the permission to use.
In addition, the use of the IP has continued without any agreement being formed in response to our request for the conclusion of an agreement.
In addition, no monthly report on the status of sales since December 2024 has been submitted, making it difficult to grasp and manage the status of IP usage.
In light of these facts, we, as the copyright holder, have been forced to make an appropriate decision and take action.

In addition, we are reporting this time from White CUL's official account due to the fact that we were unable to send the originally scheduled message from ZAN-SHIN's official account because the account authority was not taken over due to the past management system.

We value the sound and legitimate management of the character IP and the maintenance of the relationship of trust with our fans
more than anything else.
We will continue to respond to the situation in good faith, and will continue to discuss the matter with all parties concerned.
We apologize for any concern this may cause and ask for your understanding.

ZAN-SHIN Corporation

After this, the 39Party xitter account makes a response. [link / archive]

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Of course I have to provide my own rough translation.
April 27, 2025
Cafe & Bar 39Party*

On April 26, 2025, ZAN-SHIN Co., Ltd. notified us via social networking service of content that may be misleading to some and unclear as to the purpose of public dissemination, and we would like to provide specific details.

1. It is not true that "no formal written contract has been concluded and the legal basis for the license continues to not exist.
Regarding the first payment for the original drinks and coasters, we have already concluded a “Merchandising Rights License Agreement” on November 29, 2024 between our company and ZAN-SHIN Corporation, which stipulates quarterly aggregation and payment, and we will report the sales and make a bank transfer without delay on February 28, 2025. The second payment, also in accordance with the agreement, is scheduled for the end of the next month, with the report of sales and payment of the royalty fee due by the end of this month. We apologize, however, that we only made a verbal promise regarding the other menu items for which fees were to be paid.

2. It is true that ZAN-SHIN Corporation requested a new contract different from the one mentioned above. However, we declined the offer because the proposed contract was for a comprehensive and one-sided fixed monthly fee, which is not customary in the industry, and because it included the “WINDCUL” IP, which does not yet exist as software.

3. It is true that we have not yet concluded the newly requested contract from ZAN-SHIN Corporation, and we would like to report that we have removed and privatized the items related to “CUL,” ‘ROSA’ and “WhiteCUL” from our stores as of April 26, 2025, as you have indicated. We are sorry for the inconvenience caused.
We do not sell any products related to “WINDCUL” at our store.

4. The name of the store, commonly known as “MIKUBA” operated by our company, is “39Party*”, which is different from “39party*” for which ZAN-SHIN Inc. publishes a notice on SNS. In other words, the fact that they make such a notation error despite being IP holder companies shows the extent of the relationship between the two companies.

Discussions between ZAN-SHIN Corporation and our company will continue.
We deeply apologize for any concern this may have caused to Cafe & Bar 39Party* customers.

Thank you very much for your understanding and cooperation.

The 39Party statement alleges that they actually are working on a report and haven't received any sort of new contract. Also ZAN-SHIN was targeting the bar instead of the store, which was what was selling the WhiteCUL products.

Shortly after this, on the 27th, the alleged voice provider of WhiteCUL, Tsumika Oda, (who was previously unrevealed) accused ZAN-SHIN of not properly compensating her for her work and threatening her for taking out a loan to attempt to get some sort of financial compensation. She was apparently paid less than half she was owed, but it isn't really stated how much she was owed for the work. She also implied that her account was stolen.
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Later, on April 28th, the WhiteCUL account went on to tweet another even lengthier statement about something not yet heard of. [link / archive]

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Luckily, another user came in handy with a translation of the statement.
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TLDR to the best of my understanding;
The 39Party bar (a VOCALOID themed bar ran by "Shirayuki", who is the voice provider of the character ROSA) used some characters without ZAN-SHIN's consent to promote some sort of bar crowdfunding. Shirayuki was not permitted to use the characters due to a lack of proper payment and reports. ZAN-SHIN alleges that the only sort of agreement reached between the two was verbal and no payment was received.
They had attempted to schedule meetings with 39Party several times, with a deadline of April 25th, but they never happened. Then, in a turn of events, ZAN-SHIN alleges that some of the WhiteCUL VOCALOID6 crowdfunding money was possibly used to fund 39Party. And they took out a loan to help recover the funds that is now apparently causing complications.

For a more detailed explanation than I could ever give, Takoyaki Donuts has a thread about it. [link / archive]
I think I can ignore all the rape fetish fanfiction xe wrote, since this is one of the better explanations.

Also an explanation including a compilation of xeets was put together. [link / archive]

All in all the situation is a little confusing, but it's interesting to see how its playing out. Will WhiteCUL get a V6 release with all the fund tampering? Yanhe could get VOCALOID release after all her embezzlement drama, so it honestly shouldn't be too bad for WhiteCUL. Guaranteed everyone forgets in like a year or so.
If the thing about her voice provider not properly being paid is true I hope they're able to somehow allocate proper funding for her. If that isn't handled, I can only guess that her sales might not do too great.
 

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Guys I found a Vocaloid song about tranny ideology. The producer has a lot of balls making this.
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The producer wrote this in the video description.
Ok, I turned off the comments, I think nothing good is coming off that interaction, I will keep losing the patience and calling you slurs and you will waste your time spamming dumb stuff that will not push me to take this down, neither change my opinions.
I had a talk with a trans person in my DM,I explain my reasons of doing this song and she explain me the reasons of what lead her to transitioning to male (not using the wrong pronouns on purpose) even if we both don’t agree on each other opinions, we agree that to there’s no need to personal insults, I can do better, you all can do better too.
My apologies for the direct offenses to anyone in the comments, I’m not perfect, and a sinner and that’s my only merit, all the good I could be is due to God and not myself.

I’ll try my best to not interact with any of those who feel offended by this and straight up block them so, you can also help me with that and take a breath before leaving any provocation on my videos, I would appreciate it.

As you can read, the lyrics of this song aren’t meant to offend anyone but the gender ideology that I consider is harmful, you are on the right to think I’m wrong or a bigot whatever, this are my convictions, and you will not change that, as a Christian there’s a obligation to denounce the sin and that’s all I wanted to do here, to say loud trans ideology is a sin, if you disagree and want to say it out loud, well do a song about it, express yourself the way you want, I’ll keep expressing myself the way I want about his topic that I find no minor should be exposed to this ideology and sadly many of you are thinking on transitioning without knowing the consequences this might have in your future and more important in you soul.

I think that’s all, I understand if you are still mad and are not willing to accept any of my words, I’ll not take down this video, and again I will not change my opinion on this matter, thanks to that person who reach me willing to talk without any prejudice with me, as I said to her I’ll pray for all who suffer gender dysphoria that’s something I cannot understand since never experienced that on my life but I can understand that is something very painful to them, I pray for them to find freedom in God, bc only in Him we find our true identity that goes beyond sex or gender, we are His children and he create us perfect, he never makes mistakes, and if he allow some of us to deal with stuff that cause us pain is to let us know that His love is greater than any thought, pain, genetic condition, illnesses, sickness… His love shine over all our wounded humanity and I wish you all to find His Love that is more than just being nice to each other but to seek the wellbeing of each other.

C.S.P.B.
C.S.S.M.L.
N.D.S.M.D.
E.I.S.N.S.M.V.
S.M.Q.L.I.V.B.

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