Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

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Cherenkovblue said:
This, basically. Keith Packard more or less faced the same dilemma Enrico Weigelt is facing today, with precisely the same result: Wanting to build a new fork not controlled by obstructive retards, he was summarily booted. However, on first reading at least, the resulting discussion was more or less civil (even the shit on Slashdot). No fireworks here.

See what happens when you don't have faggots and trannies running everything? It's almost like if you let white people run things... shit gets done.
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Wow, history really does rhyme like pottery. Enrico Weigelt's situation is like Keith Packard's 20+ years ago in more ways than one. The current authors of the X server consider it obsolete, and in need of a replacement with a different architecture. So did XFree86 founder and board member David Wexelblat back in 2003.
On The Future Of X
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A number of people has questioned the relevence of X in general. To be perfectly honest, I'm one of them. I've even pissed off Keith and many others on the Core Team by pointing out that X is obsolescent. I've been working in the Windows world for years now, and client-server display systems are utterly irrelvent to the majority of real-world computer users. X needs to be replaced by a direct-rendered model, on which a backwards-compatible X server can be reasonably trivially implemented.
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@Lady Ivlia de Nîmes, kudos for finding this archive.
 
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CEO of Gay said:
X needs to be replaced by a direct-rendered model, on which a backwards-compatible X server can be reasonably trivially implemented.
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It's incredibly important to note the striking difference between then and now with this very quote. They want to kill off X now because they say it has already been replaced by Wayland, something that can never reach backwards-compatibility with X due to how drastic and restrictive its design is, regardless of how much they try. Wexelblat made sure to point out backwards-compatibility, which implies his ideal replacement would still have support X, something Wayland fails to do.
 
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Herman Throwaway said:
Gabe the Hutt worshippers are so fucking idiotic.

Steam pops a huge ad at you as soon as you open it.

And never forget, what gave Newell the money to start Valve was his Microsoft stock options, as he worked there for a long time before leaving to shackle idiots to his own monopoly.
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But the Valve fattie uuhhhh said something about piracy being a service problem once and I get to quote it anytime someone calls me out on being a poor faggot so he is epic and based and redpilled.

Which means we have to ignore it was basically Valve that normalized microtransactions and especially the gambling loot crate bullshit industry wide/
 
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mentally retarded user said:
Piracy is a service problem, which is why I pirate the GOG copies of games because the latest steam app is laggy and takes up too much memory and crashes.
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Valve has sadly followed the lunacy trend of making their steam client a webshit "application" running in a chromium wrapper.

I miss the old, old fully native client. :(
 
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First thing any reasonable person would do after installing steam is say "whoops, what a lapse in my judgment!" and then uninstall it again. Don't pay for videogames man. Especially from the big corpos. Don't be a sucker. If there's a small one-guy-indie you want to support then check if he's on gog. If he's not on gog it's his own goddamn fault.
 
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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:

LoL great first 15 seconds
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KiCAD posted a pretty good analysis of some of the problems of Wayland: https://www.kicad.org/blog/2025/06/KiCad-and-Wayland-Support/

Switching to Wayland now has been compared to jumping out of a plane with an incomplete parachute and hoping it's fixed before you hit the ground.

In past exchanges, I've seen Wayland developers be very dismissive of the points listed in the above URL, but they are real issues that need to be addressed one way or another, and most of them are things that work perfectly fine in X11 today.
 
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Rancid Xylitol said:
KiCAD posted a pretty good analysis of some of the problems of Wayland: https://www.kicad.org/blog/2025/06/KiCad-and-Wayland-Support/

Switching to Wayland now has been compared to jumping out of a plane with an incomplete parachute and hoping it's fixed before you hit the ground.

In past exchanges, I've seen Wayland developers be very dismissive of the points listed in the above URL, but they are real issues that need to be addressed one way or another, and most of them are things that work perfectly fine in X11 today.
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Wayland niggers are coming out of the woodwork in the HN thread to point fingers at KiCAD, because they can't ever let Wayland devs take responsibility for how shitty their protocol is. (a)
 
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Markass the Worst said:
Wayland niggers are coming out of the woodwork in the HN thread to point fingers at KiCAD, because they can't ever let Wayland devs take responsibility for how shitty their protocol is. (a)
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I like the first (top?) comment under that article.
magicalhippo said:
I've been thinking about ditching Windows as my primary OS for some years, but Wayland has been really detrimental to the Linux desktop. Over a decade later and it's still not production ready, at least in my tests. Yet X11 is dying it seems, with GNOME and KDE dropping support soon[1][2].
From where I stand, the intentional fragmentation of the ecosystem seems like an especially poor decision.
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The effect of the Wayland project has been to harm the Linux ecosystem, fragment its userbase, deter adoption, and cement the power of Redhat and GNOME (and KDE but I suspect that's more of a begrudging acceptance of allowing choice to avoid destroying Linux outright). If these were not the goals of freedesktop, they are the most incompetent morons to ever be in a leadership position.
 
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volatile puar said:
I like the first (top?) comment under that article.

The effect of the Wayland project has been to harm the Linux ecosystem, fragment its userbase, deter adoption, and cement the power of Redhat and GNOME (and KDE but I suspect that's more of a begrudging acceptance of allowing choice to avoid destroying Linux outright). If these were not the goals of freedesktop, they are the most incompetent morons to ever be in a leadership position.
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Wayland is the best thing to ever happen to Linux, in that case.
 
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Kuroyuri said:
Valve has sadly followed the lunacy trend of making their steam client a webshit "application" running in a chromium wrapper.

I miss the old, old fully native client. :(
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I don't blame them, it was a lot of effort to maintain custom clients compared to just using Chromium\Electron.

But I agree. There must exist a much more friendy frontend system without having to use a fucking browser + web rendering for ui.
 
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