2025 Israel vs Iran War

[Catch The Rainbow]

# French MFA spox walks back Macron's claim that regime change would be "strategic mistake" - says Macron's main focus is the danger of Iran's nuclear program

 

[Rekieta’s Broken Penis]

If Trump attacks Iran he has been captured by the neocon ZOGbots and will litrully destroy America with adventurism for Israhell

If Trump doesn't attack Iran he's chickened out

It almost makes one think it isn't serious criticism but instead is reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Trump reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Stop bruising your throat on his spotted dick. Trump is a chicken because he’s postures about stuff he doesn’t have the stomach to do. He’s literally like “I need another two weeks to decide ”

 

[draggs]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Trump reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Yeah we got that you're not serious already

 

[Dawdler]

How fat and out of shape were they though? I'm sure that played a factor if they had like diabetes, hypertension and ate like crap.

It is most likely similar to the American troop that died in the first Iran attack on US base last year.

 

[Pendulous Dong]

Now that Tulsi and Macron have bent the knee, I think it's already over and we're just waiting for the nukes to drop. I don't think Trump is going to be satisfied with the 6-12 month delay that a bunker buster would provide, I think we're in a genuinely unique scenario where a country can be nuked without anyone retaliating and Trump is willing to let that genie out of the bottle.

 

[Rekieta’s Broken Penis]

Yeah we got that you're not serious already

I don’t mind Trump but this cult of personality some people have towards him is really pathetic. You’re putting yourself in the same camp as Laura Loomer, who goes around journaling whenever somebody disagrees with the man.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Stop bruising your throat on his spotted dick. Trump is a chicken because he’s postures about stuff he doesn’t have the stomach to do. He’s literally like “I need another two weeks to decide ”

He is stuck waiting for assets to enter the region. This requires a lot of prep work and at this moment they're likely working 24/7 just to be able to evacuate everyone and be ready on time for an attack. It's been a week, almost no time

Khamenei is fearful of communicating, concerned that Israel will intercept any signals and use it to target him , Khamenei has not responded to attempts from multiple countries seeking to help de-escalate the conflict. Khamenei thought to be battling cancer, in hiding from Israeli strikes- CBS reports

Sources said Trump maintains the ability to launch a strike while he's golfing in New Jersey. A secure suite was set up in New Jersey and it was ensured he would have access to secure communications, allowing him the option to give an order.

U.S. and European diplomats confirmed that there are confidential conversations about who would lead Iran next, whether the nuclear sites and material can be secured, and the potential environmental and health fallout for regional allies from military strikes on nuclear facilities.

polymarket:

 

[Goofy Logic]

It is curious that Europe is falling in line about Iran. Either Isreal and the US have a convincing argument or they smell blood in the water.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

Trump is willing to let that genie out of the bottle.

There's been an understanding among the nuke powers since the Korean War that nukes are off the table for regional conflicts. I'm 80% sure that Trump won't break that understanding. If he does use a nuke to take out Fordow or wherever the Iranians are building their nukes it'll be a lame tactical bunkerbuster and we won't get any cool 4K footage of a mushroom cloud.

 

[draggs]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Trump reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee cult reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

You know, you don't have to use a bingo card to write a post. What does it make you that when someone disagrees with your characterization of Trump you immediately denigrate them as a cultist sucking his cock or whatever silly ragebait is on that bingo card lol. It's a self-serving false dilemma. Agree with me or you're a Trump cultist! lol. idk how a few sentences is "journaling" either

Trump saying Iran's position is unacceptable does not necessarily mean that he must attack Iran to rectify it, and if he doesn't he chickened out. That's another false dilemma. Just as false as the Lindsey Graham opinion that Trump must attack Iran or Iran will have nuclear weapons. There's a lot of fake and gay false dilemma-ing going on here and all of it is arranged to justify what people already believed

 

[Burnt Fish]

I don’t mind Trump but this cult of personality some people have towards him is really pathetic. You’re putting yourself in the same camp as Laura Loomer, who goes around journaling whenever somebody disagrees with the man.

You posted that you though he was going to chicken out citing how he was wearing a hat as showing that.

You deserve to have your idiocy pointed out and mocked like the retard you are. That 90% of your posts in this thread are on the same level only drives the point home.

Don't be a retard, retard

Either Isreal and the US have a convincing argument

or perhaps, an international organization without ties to the US or Isreal providing them with third party testimony supporting the claims.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

There's been an understanding among the nuke powers since the Korean War that nukes are off the table for regional conflicts. I'm 80% sure that Trump won't break that understanding. If he does use a nuke to take out Fordow or wherever the Iranians are building their nukes it'll be a lame tactical bunkerbuster and we won't get any cool 4K footage of a mushroom cloud.

No need for a nuke to take out Fordow. US has 20 bunker busters iirc

It is curious that Europe is falling in line about Iran. Either Isreal and the US have a convincing argument or they smell blood in the water.

Europe is in range of Iranian missiles.

 

[draggs]

No need for a nuke to take out Fordow. US has 20 bunker busters iirc

Nobody outside of authorized glowniggers, military, and the president/bigwigs high up in DoD/State Department bureaucracy knows how many GBU-57s the US has. Anyone who says they do and gives a number is lying/seriously breaking federal law

 

[soy_king]

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Now that Tulsi and Macron have bent the knee, I think it's already over and we're just waiting for the nukes to drop. I don't think Trump is going to be satisfied with the 6-12 month delay that a bunker buster would provide, I think we're in a genuinely unique scenario where a country can be nuked without anyone retaliating and Trump is willing to let that genie out of the bottle.

Nukes are definitely off the table, that would be completely unpalatable both domestically and internationally. All this speculation that the GBU-57 is ineffective is complete speculation up and until it's actually deployed, so that's almost certainly the most likely option should these current round of negotiations break down.

I think the Europeans genuinely understand that a nuclear Iran is a threat to them because it will be another crackpot third world regime who'll be able to leverage their untouchability to blackmail the Europeans into providing them even more favorable economic concessions or aid. They can't openly say it because their populations are liberal retards who mindlessly suck off the Palestinians and Muslims in much the same way a lot of people here think American normies mindlessly suck off the Israelis.

 

[Burnt Fish]

Nobody outside of authorized glowniggers, military, and the president/bigwigs high up in DoD/State Department bureaucracy knows how many GBU-57s the US has. Anyone who says they do and gives a number is either lying or seriously breaking federal law

it's ok, we only need 3, two to get into Fordow, and one for the Ayatollah's bunker he's been bitched out hiding in.

 

[draggs]

it's ok, we only need 3, two to get into Fordow, and one for the Ayatollah's bunker he's been bitched out hiding in.

Depending on how Fordow is built might not even need to "get into" it. Collapsing it is an option unless they built it up to Raven Rock/Cheyenne Mountain standards. So is collapsing the entrances and destroying its power plant (which is not buried under 200-300 feet of rock) so the loss of power wrecks the centrifuges before Iran can do anything about it. So is pinpointing and bombing the ventilation outlets. No ventilation, no access at a scale that matters to the centrifuges or enriched uranium stockpiled there. Destroying the centrifuges accomplishes the goal and it doesn't require cracking the place open

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Depending on how Fordow is built might not even need to "get into" it. Collapsing it is an option unless they built it up to Raven Rock/Cheyenne Mountain standards

Israeli raid option is the most risky imo

HRANA: At least 30 Iranians arrested today for cyber activities

According to N12 news, The U.S. has delivered a final offer to Iran:

• END uranium enrichment
• SLASH long-range missile programs
• DISMANTLE key nuclear infrastructure

Israel believes rejection = U.S. enters the war.

Turkey, Oman, Italy & Norway offered to host talks. Iran hasn’t responded.

 

[AntiSchwuletteAktion]

He is stuck waiting for assets to enter the region. This requires a lot of prep work and at this moment they're likely working 24/7 just to be able to evacuate everyone and be ready on time for an attack. It's been a week, almost no time

Khamenei is fearful of communicating, concerned that Israel will intercept any signals and use it to target him , Khamenei has not responded to attempts from multiple countries seeking to help de-escalate the conflict. Khamenei thought to be battling cancer, in hiding from Israeli strikes- CBS reports

Sources said Trump maintains the ability to launch a strike while he's golfing in New Jersey. A secure suite was set up in New Jersey and it was ensured he would have access to secure communications, allowing him the option to give an order.

U.S. and European diplomats confirmed that there are confidential conversations about who would lead Iran next, whether the nuclear sites and material can be secured, and the potential environmental and health fallout for regional allies from military strikes on nuclear facilities.

polymarket:

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There is no need to wait for assets. There were already enough U.S. assets in-theatre to dismantle the Iranian military prior to the Israeli strikes. The additional surge of aircraft is already in-theatre, imo it's to apply diplomatic pressure primarily and secondarily to make an air offensive overwhelming if we go down that path.

Fuck Israel, fuck Iran, keep American troops safe

 

[PhoBingas]

It is most likely similar to the American troop that died in the first Iran attack on US base last year.

Wasn't that the guy who went out like Elvis? Heart attack while taking a dump? Or am I thinking of something else?

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

There is no need to wait for assets. There were already enough U.S. assets in-theatre to dismantle the Iranian military prior to the Israeli strikes. The additional surge of aircraft is already in-theatre, imo it's to apply diplomatic pressure primarily and secondarily to make an air offensive overwhelming if we go down that path.

The goal isn't to dismantle the military, the goal is to bomb fordow and prepare to protect Gulf oil infrastructure. You also need to evacuate assets. The surge of aircraft isn't in theater, the US sent around 35(?) fuelers from the US to CENTCOM.