US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Current members of the House of Representatives
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Current members of the US Supreme Court
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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[qoop]

I've stopped responding to the thread I made

That lasted like an hour lol

 

[harmy.kook]

I want CTR back, I just want to talk politics again bro.

Pfft, NO. It'll go back to Jewspergery instead of Mormon-spergery

Null making it accessible was mistake, but another problem is nobody reporting the Off-topic sperging until its gotten to 10s of pages worth of arguing-in-circles.

 

[Justsomecicada]

They need some religious target, and CTR isn't here to be argued with.

It's the equivalent of Atheists arguing with Christains. Pointless as neither will listen

Your right man totally has nothing to do with welper spending all day advocating for public land to be sold to black rock. I agree it’s shitty people target his faith and weight but nigga look where we are.

Mabye actually read the thread instead of instantly jumping in to defend one of your butt buddies

 

[harmy.kook]

[Sneed]

It has been brought up several times before since its been revealed for months.

Try again.

 

[King Metalia]

What exactly makes a person Christian to you? Because I cannot see anything that means a damn besides recognizing Jesus as God.

Wait I thought Jesus was God's son? Is he his own father or an I severely misunderstanding Christianity?

 

[Schpoots]

Walz constantly looks like he shit his pants. I can't stand his face.

 

[Justsomecicada]

Yeah. Who gives a shit?
I find it the height of arrogance to take ones personal Christology and declare that OFFICIAL CHRISTIANITY (TM).

For comparison, I despise Orthodoxy-Catholicism’s saints and most everything else unique about it, but I don’t consider it NotChristianity because it literally isn’t when you worship Jesus and have him as your savior figure.


In Arian theology (which Mormonism uses a variant of), Jesus, God, Holy Ghost are all separate gods.

In Athanasian Christianity, which is all the mainstream denominations, they both are the same thing and are separate from each other. The logical paradox is unresolvable and so there’s a bit of legalese woo (the Athanasian Creed) that brushes it aside and says “WOW THATS SO DEEP MAN.”

You just said
Christian’s believe Jesus is god
Mormons don’t believe Jesus is god,
By your own logic they aren’t Christians.
I’m so confused

If a Arian or human view of Christ is Christian how are Muslims and such not also Christian?

Your definition of Christianity is broad to the point using it would render all Abrahamic religions except Judaism as forms of Christianity

 

[Justsomecicada]

Also Arianism is not the belief Jesus is a separate god

It’s that Jesus ISNT god and he is created thing or human teacher

 

[shekelshoah666]

Glad to see Mike Lee getting dragged over selling land for pennies what a total fucking loser. Never forget he is a huge Blackrock supporter and is one of the driving forces behind increased H1B visas from India.

Utah sends their best and they are still fucking awful.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

The lib fallacy about Trump selling federal land is that it's supposedly national parks, but I don't think anyone's talking about paving over Yellowstone

It's more like "All these hundreds of miles of grazing ground in Nevada are owned by the Federal Government so all farmers there have to pay the government for grazing permits, but also the government can just say fuck you no farmers get to graze here anymore so all the farms with literally nowhere else to graze their animals are ruined, and also no one voted for this and no one can vote against this or appeal it because this is the government's own property, so you have to pay at a toll booth to go to and from your home" and Trump is saying "How about we let those farmers actually buy and own the land they live off of?"

The likelihood of all the land being bought up by BlackRock/China is another problem

 

[quaawaa]

Trump says he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize:

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Trump says that a deal with Harvard is coming soon:

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Trump complains about interest rates:

Spoiler: Image in Tweet

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[Deathegg]

President Trump in the interview. Acknowledges his past statements about U.S intervention. That if U.S involvement is had, that there will be no boots on the ground. Continues that Tulsi Gabard and intelligence is wrong about that Iran isn't building a nuclear weapon. Also sorry for phone posting. https://youtu.be/5cvZuDbmdSc?si=C7zawf3xLw3LzpJB

 

[Delany's Donkey]

how a Church centered and named after Christ cannot be a Christian church.

because being a Christian actually means something. it's not just believing a man named Jesus of Nazareth existed It is recognizing that He Is The almighty God who created all reality with a word, He is not a created being nor is he the Brother of lucifer and the reason we were created is to serve and honor him, not to eventually become "gods" one day, that's literally the lie the serpent told to Eve in the garden of Eden. these are not tiny doctorial Issues, you believe in a completely different, blasphemous, fanfiction version of Him to the point where he's Christ in name only.

It's like claiming to be a Muslim who follows Muhammed but when you describe Muhammed you say he's actually a living 14 year old Jewish girl from San Francisco who loves Gay shit. i wouldn't call you a Christian in the same way If some guy today changed his name to "Jesus Christ" and started a religion i wouldn't call his followers "Christians".

there is no way half of the post in the past 15 pages don't get nuked from this thread.

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

What exactly makes a person Christian to you? Because I cannot see anything that means a damn besides recognizing Jesus as God.

1. Reads scripture daily.
2. Repents to Jesus when they sin.
3. Prays daily.
4. Tells others about Jesus.
5. Abandons carnal pleasures and earthly luxuries.
6. Not ashamed of their faith.
7. Lives for Christ daily.

 

[Eventide]

It's really funny to me how hard Democrats pander to native Americans and their general language just flow right through them like it's nothing. They treat them like they're niggers and just kinda assume they'll have them as a voter base without any second thoughts.

There's really not that many of us (maybe 5 million total?) & we mostly live in extremely red states, like Oklahoma, Montana, Wyoming, or the Dakotas. I assume the Democratic party never tried to pander to us 'cause it's just not economically worth it to fight for our votes (which usually go to Republicans 'cause we're not much different from any other flyover state conservative Middle American).

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

You just said
Christian’s believe Jesus is god
Mormons don’t believe Jesus is god,
By your own logic they aren’t Christians.
I’m so confused

If a Arian or human view of Christ is Christian how are Muslims and such not also Christian?

Your definition of Christianity is broad to the point using it would render all Abraham religions except Judaism as forms of Christianity

Because Muslims don’t consider Jesus “a god” at all, just a prophet.

Arianism is just one attempt at interpreting the Holy Trinity. Bible explicitly refers to Jesus as God, but it also explicitly refers to him as an entity that has a relation to God that in our earthly world is not possible (father-son).

Every theologian that tried to tackle this retarded puzzle got shouted down (and often their followers murdered) by muh Church. Modalism. Partialism. Arianism. And the success of Athanasianisn came down as much to political persecution as anything else. Arius’ take on it was the most elegant because it’s also the most common sense: if you’ve got God running around on the ground getting nailed to wood and God up in the clouds and God talks to God, then regardless of what we call it these can’t be the same entity.

I didn’t say “a god” because there is a possibility that somebody would bring up some obscure third-class Middle Eastern or Oriental religion from the Dark Ages that worships him as a god of carpentry or whatever shit alongside Zeus and Vishnu.

The central point of Christianity is that God had a son that was also God and came down here to die to absolve the world of its sin. All else is quibbling, purely intellectual, utterly unimportant.

Can you not concede that Catholicism has a slightly more coherent understanding of Christ than a group of people who think He was a Cherokee magician because Joseph Smith translated it from an Ancient Egyptian grocery receipt?

Explain to me first what the “Cherokee magician” crack is. It sounds, like the “Muslim moon god” thing to be chest-thumping nonsense.

 

[harmacist]

Thank you. Yes us Mormons are fucking weird. The only time in modern day I've heard us called HERITICS is Kiwi Farms and Twitter. We are Christian. We're just weird. Deal with it I guess. Don't get spooked by the missionaries if they knock.

i dont get spooked by them, i find them incredibly disrespectful. knocking on a complete strangers door and trying to push your religious ideology on them, then they get pushy when you tell them no. theres a level of arrogance to that whole act, which is reinforced by you, a mormon, saying "deal with it i guess". i shouldnt have to deal with your bullshit

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

Satan is reciting scripture to suit his own purposes again. Although "Satan" is giving him too much credit, he's more like a gay lemure.

 

[quaawaa]

Department of State is revamping their contractor screening process.

Why was the State Department hiring retarded pajeets in the first place?

 

[>IMPLYING]

Mormons have a arian view of Christ, so no they literally aren’t

I have no skin in this game but I always found the trinity to be unusually uncontentious within Christianity.
Sure you had Arianism but the trinity seems too much of a contrivance of interpretation in a meta sense rather than something sourced directly from scripture. I always found the fact they had to add a verse to support it (1 John 5:7–8 ) means they were aware on some level that it was hard to accept without explicit mention. It almost feels like they really didn't want him to be a demi-god, even though the eventual concept of the Hypostatic Union just makes him one in purpose anyway (fully human and fully divine as opposed to half of each). I guess I wonder why the trinity has extreme rigidity to it versus a lot of other things.