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Most of the public land being proposed for sale is unliveable. And probably will be bought up by large developers so your average person will not see any benefit from it.

Where are you getting this "land being proposed for sale is unliveable." I've heard this said multiple times and don't know where it's coming from.

I'm sure in the tens of millions of acres being offered there will be some viable land. I doubt the entire Western half of our nation is unable to be developed.

Also if developers invest in these places, they don't develop in others.

These amorphous "developers" are more than some shadowy nameless corporation.
If they develop factories, the factories will need workers. If they develop apartments, the apartments will need tenants.

This is not a zero sum game, have some hope.
 
It's actually pretty depressing. People forget that the entire Mediterranean basin was studded with jewels of human civilization before the Arabs moved in, destroyed the irrigation works, chopped down centuries-old olive groves, and let their goats destroy all the fields.
North africa was basically an extension of europe. Eygpt was colonized by the greeks and the holy land and Turkey were the richest parts of the roman empire.

then the muslims attacked.....
 
Cali conservatives do this on the west coast, New York and mass on the east coast and Minnesota and Wisconsin one in the Midwest. I think a part of it is the Overton window these people came from is different then the one they moved form. It’s a damn shame. A Cali conservative might be a centrist or even a liberal Republican by red state standards at the end of the day if worry less about them and more about the people who left their home state and then still vote blue no matter who

I think these sorts of people (transplants) make for the worst enemies because at least with your outright enemies you know what you're dealing with. These cowards will stab you in the back though and with just as much, maybe more, good intention than diehard liberals will.

Also, more controversial for this thread: "conservatism" (aka 90s liberalism) has become so performative with the ruses put on by people like Donboi and Elong, that transplants can easily just stick on a red MAGA hat and continue supporting the crazy shit like LGBT etc because well bro why don't you like the gays it's not like it's tranny furries!!!!
 
We should have a hard ban on foreigners owning property in the US
Most countries start out with laws like this. And here’s the funny thing. Every single fucking time, the finance kikes and Globohomo crowd moves in and demands they cut it or regime change them.

Libya had banned foreign ownership of land. Then Ghadafi fell. Ukraine banned it. Then they got couped in ‘14 and now Blackrock is the biggest land owner.

If Trump passed a law like that, he’d be regime changed too.
 
I think these sorts of people (transplants) make for the worst enemies because at least with your outright enemies you know what you're dealing with. These cowards will stab you in the back though and with just as much, maybe more, good intention than diehard liberals will.

Also, more controversial for this thread: "conservatism" (aka 90s liberalism) has become so performative with the ruses put on by people like Donboi and Elong, that transplants can easily just stick on a red MAGA hat and continue supporting the crazy shit like LGBT etc because well bro why don't you like the gays it's not like it's tranny furries!!!!
Yeah I know the feel; I live in a area that used to be heavily paleocon that is now a very diverse mix of neocon,MAGA, libertarians, centrists and liberal republicans and some old paleocons

In my region tho this has been a thing since like the early 90s

Most countries start out with laws like this. And here’s the funny thing. Every single fucking time, the finance kikes and Globohomo crowd moves in and demands they cut it or regime change them.

Libya had banned foreign ownership of land. Then Ghadafi fell. Ukraine banned it. Then they got couped in ‘14 and now Blackrock is the biggest land owner.

If Trump passed a law like that, he’d be regime changed too.
Mexico has such a law and they haven’t been ACKED, well anymore then they already are by being Mexican
 
My Senator has done his fucking job
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Basically most of Utah is occupied by the feds and most of us are stuffed into a small area that the actual State of Utah controls. Trump is giving states like mine more control of our own fucking states. Then these retards:
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Are fucking hippies that proably live in states that actually own their own fucking states and aren't cramped in a narrow sliver compared to the rest of the state. Fuck these hippies. Based Trump.

Imagine being stoked that your senator politically sunk the one local issue he was supposed to tackle by arguing it's about selling our pristine and priceless national treasures for pennies on the dollar to whomever to pay a fraction of a percent of the budget instead of opening up the patchwork of federal dirt lots in residential areas. Why would you be happy about that? What would make you think he is doing a good job selling this soo badly that federal lands will probably become more locked down for another generation? Your senator "doing his fucking job" just torpedoes your one local interest for the next decade and this is a success to you?

What is actually wrong with Libertarians that makes them incapable of making a winning move?
 
Tulsi Gabbard says her testimony is being taken out of context regarding Iran. Twitter.


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The neocons say Iran *could* develop nukes with the amount of enriched Uranium they have in weeks or months. So we need to bomb the shit out of them until they don't have that capability.

But Iran isn't particularly closer now to making a nuke than it was 3 months ago or 3 years ago, and if we wanted peace, we could keep negotiating, and they'd likely give up their stockpile.

The Russians say Israel's war is about regime change and breaking the Axis of Resistance and this seems more right to me. Bibi might feel like he's at the zenith of his power right now; Trump is his guy at the moment, but won't be president forever, and popular opinion, even among boomer U.S. conservatives, is rapidly turning against Israel. If there was a moment to take out your regional enemy, now might be the best shot he has.

It would be cool to have a Islamic history thread

I want to see the autistic debates on if the Sunni or Shia were right

I like the Shia more. They are more democratic and always cared more about your average Abu and Mohammed.

Outside of the sects, the Persians are a cooler and more stable culture. They've actually ran a functioning mid east democracy for almost 50 years without any coups or civil wars. They respect the rights of their minorities, including their jewish minorities. If you ever meet any Iranians IRL, you will find them educated, earnest, and interested. And you can play Backgammon with them.

Unfortunately we are aligned with the Sauds, who are thug Bedouin gangsters, and Israelis, who are thug Zionist banksters.
 
Imagine being stoked that your senator politically sunk the one local issue he was supposed to tackle by arguing it's about selling our pristine and priceless national treasures for pennies
Because it doesn’t actually do that
on the dollar to whomever to pay a fraction of a percent of the budget instead of opening up the patchwork of federal dirt lots in residential areas.
Because it does actually do that, in Nevada at least.

What is actually wrong with Libertarians that makes them incapable of making a winning move?

Mormons* are retarded, but nobody on Twitter actually read the amendment


If you want to read the actual land amendment, it’s Subtitle C. Thanks @quaawaa

Link


TLDR: There are purchasing limits; national parks, waterways, etc. are excluded; and there is a strict time and area limit on the amount to be sold.
 
Tulsi Gabbard says her testimony is being taken out of context regarding Iran. Twitter.


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The neocons say Iran *could* develop nukes with the amount of enriched Uranium they have in weeks or months. So we need to bomb the shit out of them until they don't have that capability.

But Iran isn't particularly closer now to making a nuke than it was 3 months ago or 3 years ago, and if we wanted peace, we could keep negotiating, and they'd likely give up their stockpile.

The Russians say Israel's war is about regime change and breaking the Axis of Resistance and this seems more right to me. Bibi might feel like he's at the zenith of his power right now; Trump is his guy at the moment, but won't be president forever, and popular opinion, even among boomer U.S. conservatives, is rapidly turning against Israel. If there was a moment to take out your regional enemy, now might be the best shot he has.



I like the Shia more. They are more democratic and always cared more about your average Abu and Mohammed.

Outside of the sects, the Persians are a cooler and more stable culture. They've actually ran a functioning mid east democracy for almost 50 years without any coups or civil wars. They respect the rights of their minorities, including their jewish minorities. If you ever meet any Iranians IRL, you will find them educated, earnest, and interested. And you can play Backgammon with them.

Unfortunately we are aligned with the Sauds, who are thug Bedouin gangsters, and Israelis, who are thug Zionist banksters.
if you had to choose who is worst

Saudis?

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Open to anyone btw
 
Imagine being stoked that your senator politically sunk the one local issue he was supposed to tackle by arguing it's about selling our pristine and priceless national treasures for pennies on the dollar to whomever to pay a fraction of a percent of the budget instead of opening up the patchwork of federal dirt lots in residential areas. Why would you be happy about that? What would make you think he is doing a good job selling this soo badly that federal lands will probably become more locked down for another generation? Your senator "doing his fucking job" just torpedoes your one local interest for the next decade and this is a success to you?

What is actually wrong with Libertarians that makes them incapable of making a winning move?
This is how much of Utah the federal government controls

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They can spare a few acres and still leave plenty of cactuses and rocks for you to look at.
 
This is how much of Utah the federal government controls

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They can spare a few acres and still leave plenty of cactuses and rocks for you to look at.
Im sorry man but you never convince me that this won’t be used to house a gorrillion niggers, Indians or Mexicans, especially given the Lee guys voting history and who he gets money from. Sure it sounds great in principle but why trust these people.
 
Imagine being stoked that your senator politically sunk the one local issue he was supposed to tackle by arguing it's about selling our pristine and priceless national treasures for pennies on the dollar to whomever to pay a fraction of a percent of the budget instead of opening up the patchwork of federal dirt lots in residential areas. Why would you be happy about that? What would make you think he is doing a good job selling this soo badly that federal lands will probably become more locked down for another generation? Your senator "doing his fucking job" just torpedoes your one local interest for the next decade and this is a success to you?

What is actually wrong with Libertarians that makes them incapable of making a winning move?
Yes sell the land to Blackrock to make more houses, for Americans? No of course not, we need it to house our H1B workers from India.
 
Because it doesn’t actually do that
Can you fucking read nigger? I didn't say that's what the legislation is actually doing. I said that's what he's selling it as. I didn't make him use this picture to introduce the idea. Nobody did. That retard did. If you want to sell something to people, perhaps you should consider "selling" it instead of making it sound like you're going to sell off national treasures in the middle of nowhere for "affordable housing."
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Once again, wtf is wrong with libertarians that they are incapable of making winning moves? This should have been a layup and instead he's one-upping Massie and Rand on the "retards unable to get anything done politically" board.

This is how much of Utah the federal government controls

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They can spare a few acres and still leave plenty of cactuses and rocks for you to look at.
Cool, that wasn't how "BasedMikeLee" sold it and continued to retard walk into rakes on xitter though. Which was the entire point of my post. Maybe somebody should get these libertarian types to a marketing seminar or something.

Btw that still ignores that you're not addressing the issue people had with the plan. They were under the impression that we were selling national treasures to fund a tiny portion of the budget and instead of addressing that misconception, they did what you are doing. "We have sooo much land what does it matter?!" Why didn't you clarify what land it is, why are you stuck on this angle of it instead of the one that actually got people up in arms? Why are you allergic to winning moves?
 
Mormons* are retarded
well they follow an obviously false pedophile cult that believes Native Americans are actually Jews
Yes sell the land to Blackrock to make more houses, for Americans? No of course not, we need it to house our H1B workers from India.
I think Feds shouldn't be allowed to just squat massive amounts of land in flyover states, that being said purchases should be made by individuals and not massive corporate entities
 
Im sorry man but you never convince me that this won’t be used to house a gorrillion niggers, Indians or Mexicans, especially given the Lee guys voting history and who he gets money from. Sure it sounds great in principle but why trust these people.
If you actually think that states where the feds don't own > 50% of the land mass are wall-to-wall niggers, spics, and pajeets, then you have never been outside of a major city ever, in your life. It's kind of ironic that you're really passionate about saving the spaces you never go to.
 
If you actually think that states where the feds don't own > 50% of the land mass are wall-to-wall niggers, spics, and pajeets, then you have never been outside of a major city ever, in your life. It's kind of ironic that you're really passionate about saving the spaces you never go to.
Where did I say it was a wall to wall with them now? It’s the risk of it being filled wall to wall after all this new housing is built. That’s what real estate developers tend to do. I don’t think that federal land ownership = more white why would that make any sense.
 
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