Pretty sure she isn't pro-loli, just the stance of "I don't like it, but its just a drawing" stance. The vice piece, other then a couple scum was mostly a hit job. Someone went to that shop with all the blurred images lining the wall into the shop and it was just normal anime garbage, vice only blurred it to make it look like it was something gross.
How did you guys take
Probably ought to treat those as cursed artifacts. Did anyone ever come up with a protocol for handling and disposing of the Sonichu medallions? If they did you might want to follow that.
Im just driven to the simplest conclusion, pippa likes kirsche, kirsches content is very similar in terms of personality to pippa, therefore he probably started watching kir cause he liked pippa.
This really isn't true though, besides being kinda edgy (which Pippa hasn't been for a while now) their content is wildly different even in terms of personality. And why only start following Kirsche in May after the VICE articles, when Pippa and Kirsche hadn't publicly interacted since January, or collabed since November last year? I refuse to believe it took a Pippa fan almost 2 years to discover Kirsche through watching Pippa's content/interactions.
pippa used to dogwhistle a lot but then she lost her teeth.
This thread is milk toast. The only people throwing a short hissy fit are from other threads who are tourists trying to throw a wrench in it, because they dislike a vtuber getting influence.
Kirsche doesn't consume porn, but very much so enjoys lewd art as should be apparent on her boat women consumption. She recognizes that too many people abandon or don't even try to get into a relationship because they porn addicted. She even defined a hashtag (#KirschePop) for porn of her model. On the loli stuff, like Jimjamflimflam mentions, she tolerates it as its just fictional, but personally doesn't like it and even bans people who make porn of her character that involves any loli stuff or futa stuff for that matter.
>join a place where people dont censor opinions that include inconvenient truths
Before I cared about their stance on pornography I began with pippa and found kirsche through her. I watched her content and found it felt like a less censored version of pippas content. The timing seems like a coincidence to me and from my experience it seems like he probably followed a similar path considering how many collabs her and kir have.
Yes her group isnt a monolith, maybe its just the loudest fans but I found her discord back when I was a part of it to be militantly pro lolicon to a fault. Back in my time there before I left not a single person opposed to cunnyposting/loli posting (or at least vocally showed disapproval), and I even remember discussing with one fan on there where he said there are obviously pedophiles in the lolicon community, however we should just ignore them or something to that line. I was so suprised that I saved a screenshot of it but Ill have to try and find that cause I left like a year ago and my phones to the rim with memes.
The major problem is a lot of time the people that break away from the typical anime aesthetic aren't ones trying to put thought into the model, and it's more likely progs who end up making Tumblr tier abominations.
It was one of the final goals for her 50+ day donothon. Not something she did for shits and giggles. Chat paid up, she got it commissioned. It isn't the gotcha you think it is.
Its very common for people even uncomfortable (not that Kirsche is, but still) with porn art of them to still define a tag to separate it out and make sure people can filter it on twitter. its not necessarily an endorsement of it, although it obviously depends on creator
>Noooo! Why isnt everyone praising my favorite vtuber 24/7! She must be displayed as flawless at all times!
We don't like vtumors that contradict themselves when they preach about shit like Freedom of Speech or lefties being bad at handling criticism (Kirsche when she gets the slightest ounce of actual criticism, not lefty criticism). We also don't like grifters who exploit their fans (Pippa. maybe Kirsche).
How many times do we have to go over this, you retards don't know the definition of the word grift. If you think Kirsche or Pippa are ACTUALLY grifting to exploit their audiences you either don't watch them or are purposefully making up your own headcannon so you can justify to yourself why you're being a retard.
He's saying that engaging with newfags from the Jim thread is pointless because they're not coming from a point of "I want to understand anime imageboard/vtuber culture" but rather a point of "I already hate all of this and am looking for excuses to hate it". It's kind of like talking to journalists about kiwifarms. You can highlight the monopoly on free expression or the arrests of zoosadists resulting from people on kiwifarms investigating it, or the massive embezzlement in trans lifeline, but the journo will only remember the parts he can use to smear the site and forget about anything else.
You know, I'm in her server right now. I could just open discord, type your name in the search bar and find that conversation, provided of course you weren't banned for being a glownigger.
Not everything has to be a "gotcha", my dude, I was only providing some additional context. And besides, Kir didn't exactly try to hide it or seem ashamed of it, she literally tweeted out a link to it.
