2025 Israel vs Iran War

That's just not logistically possible. One, it would take skilled labor a considerable amount of time to dismantle an entire uranium enrichment facility safely, and two, the sheer amount of movement to and from the site would've tipped off the Israelis and the Americans. You can't hide hundreds of big rigs making back and forth trips to an underground complex.
I would assume sensitive instruments and spectrometers got shipped out. Centrifuges are something they can make themselves and is a non issue for them. They have around 10k of them and those at the site are not new and already on their way out so it's not a total loss.

I don't know what "truth" the US or Israelis could even tell you. They have no idea. Based on simulations and intelligence they might have a general idea, but for them to actually know anything for certain they'd need to do a comprehensive BDA, and Iran isn't going to publicize that information because obviously they aren't.
If any side spills the beans it's to their determent. We will know how much damage gbu does or does not do, so that may be all cards flying out of player's hands.
It's possible, but even if they did, it's useless now. The uranium is still not weapons grade, their enrichment plant is out of commission, and the site they would use to actually build a weapon is gone.
There are still 3 more and one undisclosed IIRC
I would assume they were prepared for a strike and total loss.
 
In seriousness, even tho we're getting some of the standard, initial "total success total obliteration" talk, there's enough hedging around the edges to make it clear: soon enough Iran will have a nuke in "2 more weeks" and "something will have to be done" all over again. Nothing ever happens? More like no one ever learns.
Sad.
They're whatever Israel tell us they are
They are our GREATEST ALLYTM
I'm pretty sure it's destroyed or at least fully caved in you'd notice them excavating it.
i mean they could just be waiting it out.
Remember when retards said Vance didn't back Trump on this because he looked vaguely tired during Trump's three-minute speech last night
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sheer amount of movement to and from the site would've tipped off the Israelis and the Americans. You can't hide hundreds of big rigs making back and forth trips to an underground complex.
I'm loving this Iranian cope. Israel has air superiority over Iran but they would just let a truck convoy leave with no issues?
 
It's possible, but even if they did, it's useless now. The uranium is still not weapons grade, their enrichment plant is out of commission, and the site they would use to actually build a weapon is gone.
But the Axis of Retardation Telegram channels are saying there's a super secret uranium enrichment hide out! Little do they know I hacked the Gibson and all their base are belong to me. Here is an EXCLUSIVE picture of their super secret uranium hide out:
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I was also able to hack their CCTV cameras and got a picture of the real person running the operation in Iran:
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Something collapsed in that hill. It might not be totally obliterated but if you collapse a good portion of the facility it's still fucked in the long term. But that doesn't matter because Iran moved all it's uranium to its super secret hide out, so they claim.
whiffing the building isent a good look, we struggled hitting gooks in vietnam, methinks that mountian shrugged off our impromptu chimney installation
 
Geostrategists, tell me, how possible is it that Best Korea gifts Iran some warheads? IMO, their production is way too burdensome and expensive to give them to Iran, on top of the risks. Russia probably has so many of them that they could give some away
unlikely
the norks are chinas bitch, and china has absolutely no interest in that.
russia isn't very keen on distributing nukes around the world either.
every established nuclear power has a strong interest in preventing further nuclear proliferation, this isn't limited to the west.
 
every established nuclear power has a strong interest in preventing further nuclear proliferation, this isn't limited to the west.
us was fine with israel getting the bomb
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Is it that so she can operate the oven ?
 
When we consider this current situation from a Realpolitik perspective its really silly. What exactly was Iran trying to achieve with a war against a country it doesn't even share a border with? What would "destroying" that country even accomplish?

Iran's entire campaign against Israel and the USA was purely ideological. It wasn't for some grand external great power objective. It was solely for the state to justify its own internal authority.

Now it has blown up in their face. Literally.
 
When we consider this current situation from a Realpolitik perspective its really silly. What exactly was Iran trying to achieve with a war against a country it doesn't even share a border with? What would "destroying" that country even accomplish?

Iran's entire campaign against Israel and the USA was purely ideological. It wasn't for some grand external great power objective. It was solely for the state to justify its own internal authority.

Now it has blown up in their face. Literally.
What happened is Iran ended up being literally the only people on Earth who bought into the TACO meme.
 
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Something collapsed in that hill. It might not be totally obliterated but if you collapse a good portion of the facility it's still fucked in the long term. But that doesn't matter because Iran moved all it's uranium to its super secret hide out, so they claim.
It looks like it has been terraformed to death. I wonder if it was so subterranean it explains why no one around the area heard anything.
 
us was fine with israel getting the bomb
What? No. Declassified documents explicitly show that US inspectors believe they were being intentionally misled about Israeli nuclear aspirations and pushed for an investigation. The US now being aware of the Israelis having nukes is not the same as the US being fine with it.
Except the narrative was supposed to be that Israel preemptively struck Iran after the IAEA report and then asked the US to step in with its GBU-57s and we begrudgingly did so.
Both can be true. The US holds naval exercises regularly with Japan and South Korea to prepare for the possibility of conflict in the Pacific. The US practices nuclear wargames to plan escalation response. These do not mean the US is planning on starting a nuclear war with China.

Iran being a hostile nation with nuclear intent, it makes sense for the US to rehearse strikes. Trump, wanting to not get involved in a conflict, could also have begrudgingly waited to launch the strikes until there was no other option.
 
What? No. Declassified documents explicitly show that US inspectors believe they were being intentionally misled about Israeli nuclear aspirations and pushed for an investigation. The US now being aware of the Israelis having nukes is not the same as the US being fine with it.
Did they do anything about it? Bomb Israel? no, they are fine with it

Both can be true. The US holds naval exercises regularly with Japan and South Korea to prepare for the possibility of conflict in the Pacific. The US practices nuclear wargames to plan escalation response. These do not mean the US is planning on starting a nuclear war with China.
Nuclear wargame plan may also mean they will nuke taiwan or make it uninhabitable before letting it into enemy's hands.
 
Good job Hegseth. You accidentally admitted this has been planned for months.

"Accidentally?" It's been known it's been planned for at least 2 months with the ultimatum Trump gave Iran.

It's almost as if Hegseth/the Pentagon understands that a Muzzie theocracy has no qualms about invoking taqiyya to pull a fast one on the damn dirty infidel nuclear inspectors, and made a contingency plan accordingly.

The US and Israel were practicing the strike since the Biden administration. This isn't news
All of this plus Bibi's celebratory words about how he knew the US would come in to play really gets my noggin jogging over the absurd statement from the beginning about how Israel would "be alone but not isolated". Israel hasn't been alone from the very beginning.

I'm currently optimistic that we won't put people on ground (if it was anyone other than trump we'd be there already, I'm sure) but I think it's still a real possibility.
 
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