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Bombing a country to rubble and then leaving the country alone to form their own government in the aftermath is a long-term plan so retarded that even Jews are going to see what's wrong with it. You're going to end up with Iran ruled by Super ISIS.
more like you'll end up with a destitute ruined wasteland ruled by super isis.
doesn't really matter how insane and retarded the new government is. with the state in shambles, the military destroyed, and the economy in ruins, they can't pose a threat to anyone but their immediate neighbors for quite some time. should they ever get close to posing a threat again, there's nothing stopping america from just repeating the same thing again fifty years later.
 
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Trump told Netanyahu he didn't want Israel to bomb Iran. Netanyahu did it anyway.

Trump told Netanyahu he didn't want Israel to bomb the Iranian nuclear program. Netanyahu did it anyway.

Trump told Netanyahu he didn't want Israel to kill the Ayatollah. Netanyahu gave the go-ahead anyway.

Trump told Netanyahu he wasn't going to order the US armed forces to strike Iran. Cue last night.

Are you beginning to see a (((pattern))) here?

ETA the fact that Trump kept saying he was close to making a nuclear deal with Iran, all the while Iran said "we will not stop enriching, it is our right" repeatedly the whole time.
Yeah. Deception works against dumb inbred Muslims.
 
All I know is all the thread tourists are shrieking it's two more weeks to another forever war, while the administration is flat out saying we aren't sending soldiers to Iran.
The administration is going to do whatever they feel they need to, like always. We went from "Israel can handle it" to Ted Cruz having diarrhea of the mouth-faucet and admitting the US has been assisting Israel in bombings. This led to even more bombings, except the US was willing to admit to them this time. At this rate, the cope by next weekend will be "Well it's only a few boots on the ground, it's only specialized teams!"

In a fucked up sort of way, public opinion back home is just another enemy the US military plans to fight. It's very easy to sway public opinion into not supporting military action overseas. It's also cheaper and more likely to succeed than a slugging match with a country that funds DARPA. Trump will absolutely shelve populism for a while and do whatever he thinks is best for Israel if he has reason to believe foreign groups are trying to undermine American military operations by pulling another Vietnam-style "War bad" campaign.
 
If boots end up on the ground
Define this before you make promises. If special forces operations count you may have already lost, it might come out there have already been some US ground operators in Iran for months even if it's just scouting operations. There are a lot of off the books operations going on that aren't announced publicly and that goes for russia and china and most major players. The invisible war is a very real thing.

Edit: To be clear if this has been going on I imagine it has been going on for years.
turns into nation building
If this happens i'm going to seethe shid and fard but i don't see it. Doesn't seem like trump's style, he likes low risk high reward.
 
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There's only one real solution to build a stable functioning country in the Middle East after we invade a nation: mass ethnic cleansing. These people will never forget what we did to them, they will never give up and they will always hate our guts no matter what we do. We have to wipe every single one of them out and build a new country without them. Obviously America will never solve the problem they're continually repeating over and over again, because the optics are beyond career destroying. Nobody is willing to be the one to attach their name to mass ethnically cleansing Iraq or Iran
Or here's an idea, stop giving Israel everything they want, and don't involve ourselves in bombing campaigns, regime change, and nation building. The countries in the middle east hate us for one reason, and honestly a pretty reasonable one: we're Israel's big brother that beats up other kids they started a fight with, and we never bare any meaningful consequences for continuing to do it.

We don't need to engage Generalplan Mitte Ost, we literally just need to get the fuck out of Dodge and let Israel deal with their own problems, but of course that will never happen.
 
You know what? I'm gonna say it:

This never would've happened if Kamala won.
The year is 2025, Kamala Harris just won the election
-Electric cars are now mandatory and gas is $9 a gallon
-We are currently sending troops to fight Russia in Ukraine, after giving them another $2 billion
-Your kids are taught all 486 recognizable genders in kindergarten and it is illegal and a hate crime to prosecute a LGBT individual for sexual misconduct of any kind
-Guns are now illegal unless you are an illegal immigrant gangbanger
-There are now as many Mexicans in the US as Mexico

But hey, at least we didn't successfully bomb people that hate us in the middle east once
 
Yeah. Deception works against dumb inbred Muslims.
He played the long con since the beginning of his election campaign? Wow, so based and intelligent! More American money is being burned for the state of Israel, which he consistently stated wouldn't happen. No more intervention, right? How are you trying to spin it?
 
Use of the second person and generalist collective terms is a passive manipulative tactic older than the English language and easily understood by people who aren't retarded. It's a simple and effective means by which to pressure people into agreement with your position and force an 'us vs them' dynamic.

And saying it's just shorthand when its use strengthens a key component of one of the major arguments made by terrorists for striking civilians/civilian infrastructure in democratic countries isn't particularly intelligent. Say 'the U.S. government' if that is who you're speaking about. Rather than attempting to include everyone in the U.S. with the government's military considerations and actions abroad.

At a minimum, it's less inaccurate and makes you sound less folksy. Which if you didn't know, is the polite way to call someone retarded.
Look nigger, Americans can say "we" talking about America. I dunno what the fuck you think you're expressing here.
 
The year is 2025, Kamala Harris just won the election
-Electric cars are now mandatory and gas is $9 a gallon
-We are currently sending troops to fight Russia in Ukraine, after giving them another $2 billion
-Your kids are taught all 486 recognizable genders in kindergarten and it is illegal and a hate crime to prosecute a LGBT individual for sexual misconduct of any kind
-Guns are now illegal unless you are an illegal immigrant gangbanger
-There are now as many Mexicans in the US as Mexico

But hey, at least we didn't successfully bomb people that hate us in the middle east once
Kamala would have absolutely started sending people to die for Israel in addition to all of that stuff. Don't forget Russia started making moves when it became clear the sitting US president had severe dementia and was only awake for 8 hour stretches.
 
The year is 2025, Kamala Harris just won the election
-Electric cars are now mandatory and gas is $9 a gallon
-We are currently sending troops to fight Russia in Ukraine, after giving them another $2 billion
-Your kids are taught all 486 recognizable genders in kindergarten and it is illegal and a hate crime to prosecute a LGBT individual for sexual misconduct of any kind
-Guns are now illegal unless you are an illegal immigrant gangbanger
-There are now as many Mexicans in the US as Mexico

But hey, at least we didn't successfully bomb people that hate us in the middle east once
Bro the hysteria is so gay. Trump bombs sandniggers that chant DEATH TO AMERICA. So now Kamala is the better option because JOOS. Fucking retards.
 
more like you'll end up with a destitute ruined wasteland ruled by super isis.
doesn't really matter how insane and retarded the new government is. with the state in shambles, the military destroyed, and the economy in ruins, they can't pose a threat to anyone but their immediate neighbors for quite some time. should they ever get close to posing a threat again, there's nothing stopping america from just repeating the same thing again fifty years later.
Well that's the best outcome here right, a bunch of much more fanatical lunatic terrorists running a failed state that has nothing to lose, with a bunch nuclear waste lying around couldn't POSSIBLY turn in to a much bigger problem.
 
We are currently sending troops to fight Russia in Ukraine
Meh a bit of a stretch
Bro the hysteria is so gay. Trump bombs sandniggers that chant DEATH TO AMERICA. So now Kamala is the better option because JOOS. Fucking retards.
Do you mean you do not want to give up on all your policy positions?But Drumf bombed Iran though!

Fucking Chud
 
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All I know for sure is that Europe is fucked. If you're living in the most pozzed EU countries or in the UK and you're watching this shit in Iran go down and you're not already preparing for the inevitable influx of 6 gorillion more displaced migrants from the Middle East, you might just be dead meat.
 
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Use of the second person and generalist collective terms is a passive manipulative tactic older than the English language and easily understood by people who aren't retarded. It's a simple and effective means by which to pressure people into agreement with your position and force an 'us vs them' dynamic.

And saying it's just shorthand when its use strengthens a key component of one of the major arguments made by terrorists for striking civilians/civilian infrastructure in democratic countries isn't particularly intelligent. Say 'the U.S. government' if that is who you're speaking about. Rather than attempting to include everyone in the U.S. with the government's military considerations and actions abroad.

At a minimum, it's less inaccurate and makes you sound less folksy. Which if you didn't know, is the polite way to call someone retarded.
Oh, I won't be polite about it, you're just a retarded autist who's reading way too much into this. We is short hand for the US, nothing more. I'm not sure why you're reading into that manipulation tactics. The funny thing is, you're insisting I have to write a certain way, to your standards instead of using commonly used short hand. No, you don't get passive aggressively police my word choice.
 
Look nigger, Americans can say "we" talking about America. I dunno what the fuck you think you're expressing here.
If I typed it out in size 26 font would that help you understand it? Or should I use smaller words?

It's manipulative language and inaccurate. If you're talking about the american government, say so. The citizenry are not the government and vice versa, and it's an important difference to make when speaking of such matters.

If you don't think it is, you're a mental midget who shouldn't be discussing politics in public.
you're just a retarded autist who's reading way into this. We is short hand for the US, nothing more. I'm not sure why you're reading into that manipulation tactics. The funny thing is, you're insisting I have to write a certain way, to your standards instead of using commonly used short hand. No, you don't get passive aggressively police my word choice.
And you're a retarded autist who keeps insisting it's not a big deal while simultaneously defending an improper and inaccurate means by which to refer to the entity you're talking about as if it's a massive problem if you stop doing so in the way I'm calling out.

Almost as if you're not so stupid as to really buy the notion that it's 'just shorthand'. And if you are? See above.
 
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