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Lol, this gets more ridiculous every time I hear it. He got lightly pushed in a 240p video, then he got shot to death. Somehow this turned into "ass-raped to death at knifepoint"

No there's a video of some sick Arab a dude sticking a knife in his ass. I have unfortunately seen it.

That's not how he died though.
 
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every time i link this arab twink's channel people seethe but you can pick literally any video he's ever made about the US-Israeli relationship and just be gobsmacked with how well documented, how blatant, how obscene the Israeli rape of America has been.
I tried to explain Isreal to a ching-chong after he asked what the deal with the Jews was, and really the best I could come up with on short notice was "imagine the Chinese but worse" and he was like "oh shit, it's that bad?"
 
To be fair, teachers are on average incompetent retards. It wouldn't actually help anything.
If teachers had guns, a lot of students would be shot. And it would be justified because students attack and assault their teachers somewhat regularly.

Glad no children were injured in the church shooting. You could see a lot of children in the sanctuary on video.
 
Means nothing to aircraft, next time you're on a plane see if you can spot the color of a car in somebody's driveway near the horizon.
USS Liberty false flag denial in the year of our Lord 2025 LOL

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Thomas Hinman Moorer, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, accused President Lyndon B. Johnson of having covered up that the attack was a deliberate act.

Captain William L. McGonagle of Liberty immediately asked Vice Admiral William I. Martin at the United States Sixth Fleet headquarters to send a destroyer to accompany Liberty and serve as its armed escort and as an auxiliary communications center. The following day, Admiral Martin replied: "Liberty is a clearly marked United States ship in international waters, not a participant in the conflict and not a reasonable subject for attack by any nation. Request denied."

Official testimony combined with Liberty's deck log establish that throughout the morning of the attack, 8 June, the ship was overflown, at various times and locations, by IAF aircraft.

Liberty crewmembers say that one of the Noratlas aircraft flew so close to Liberty that noise from its propellers rattled the ship's deck plating, and that the pilots and crewmembers waved to each other.

At about 05:45 Sinai time, a ship-sighting report was received at Israeli Central Coastal Command (CCC) in respect of Liberty, identified by an aerial naval observer as "apparently a destroyer, sailing 70 miles [110 km] west of Gaza". The vessel's location was marked on a CCC control table, using a red marker, indicating an unidentified vessel. At about 06:00, the aerial naval observer, Major Uri Meretz, reported that the ship appeared to be a U.S. Navy supply ship; at about 09:00 the red marker was replaced with a green marker to indicate a neutral vessel.

After the naval observer's Noratlas landed and he was debriefed, the ship he saw was further identified as USS Liberty, based on its "GTR-5" hull markings.

Secretary of State David Rusk in a statement to the Israeli ambassador:
"At the time of the attack, the USS Liberty was flying the American flag and its identification was clearly indicated in large white letters and numerals on its hull. ... Experience demonstrates that both the flag and the identification number of the vessel were readily visible from the air ... Accordingly, there is every reason to believe that the USS Liberty was identified, or at least her nationality determined, by Israeli aircraft approximately one hour before the attack. ... The subsequent attack by the torpedo boats, substantially after the vessel was or should have been identified by Israeli military forces, manifests the same reckless disregard for human life."

George Lenczowski - Professor of Political Science at University of California Berkeley wrote:
"It was significant that, in contrast to his secretary of state, President Johnson fully accepted the Israeli version of the tragic incident." He notes that Johnson himself included only one small paragraph about the Liberty in his autobiography, in which he accepted the Israeli explanation, minimized the affair and distorted the number of dead and wounded, by lowering them from 34 to 10 and 171 to 100, respectively. Lenczowski further states: "It seems Johnson was more interested in avoiding a possible confrontation with the Soviet Union, ... than in restraining Israel."

McGonagle received the Medal of Honor, the highest U.S. medal, for his actions. The Medal of Honor is usually always presented by the president of the United States in the White House, but this time it was awarded at the Washington Navy Yard by the Secretary of the Navy in an unpublicized ceremony.

Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, Chief of Naval Operations after the Liberty incident, said that he "cannot accept the claim by the Israelis that this was a case of mistaken identity"

The National Security Agency (NSA) report on the event included declassified documents which stated:
"Every official interview of numerous Liberty crewmen gave consistent evidence that indeed the Liberty was flying an American flag—and, further, the weather conditions were ideal to ensure its easy observance and identification."

In the report by the Israeli Government after the incident, it was acknowledged that IDF naval headquarters knew at least three hours before the attack that the ship was "an electromagnetic audio-surveillance ship of the U.S. Navy"

After conducting his own fact-finding inquiry and reviewing evidence, Judge Yerushalmi's decision was: "I have not discovered any deviation from the standard of reasonable conduct which would justify committal of anyone for trial." In other words, he found no negligence by any IDF member associated with the attack.

In 1991, Dean Rusk, U.S. Secretary of State at the time of the incident, wrote:
"I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. Their sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger-happy local commander. Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous."

In 2002, Captain Ward Boston, JAGC, U.S. Navy, senior counsel for the Court of Inquiry, said that the Court of Inquiry's findings were intended to cover up what was a deliberate attack by Israel on a ship that the Israelis knew to be American. In 2004, in response to the publication of A. Jay Cristol's book The Liberty Incident, which Boston said was an "insidious attempt to whitewash the facts", Boston prepared and signed an affidavit in which he said that Admiral Kidd had told him that the government ordered Kidd to falsely report that the attack was a mistake, and that Boston and Kidd both believed the attack was deliberate.

The 1981 book Weapons by Russell Warren Howe says that Liberty was accompanied by the Polaris ballistic missile-armed Lafayette-class submarine USS Andrew Jackson, which filmed the entire episode through its periscope but was unable to provide assistance. This film has never been declassified and released to the general public.
 

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Lol, this gets more ridiculous every time I hear it. He got lightly pushed in a 240p video, then he got shot to death. Somehow this turned into "ass-raped to death at knifepoint"
Look the specifics of his death aren't important here, in any case he was killed by people we were supporting, can we say the West is better off as a result?
 
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He's saying it won't be a long engagement where we fight in a quagmire for 20 years. You're just having trouble mentally processing it, but the message is simple.
Oh, I'm not having any trouble processing it. I just don't believe him, not necessarily in the sense I think he's lying, more like there wasn't enough thought put into doing what was done. Especially as relates to any consequences. That's why I asked if anyone had access to the full Q&A he apparently did.
 
Uhhh what? There were literally Crusades because Muslims not only prevented Christians from going to the Holy Land for a thousand years, but also to get them the fuck out of Europe. What are you smoking, my man?
People forget that Muslim Arabs committed some of the most effective genocides in human history, to the point where even titans such as the Egyptian people were effectively destroyed and very little actually being bred in. It was only due to how much of a bitch the region is to travel that some small ethnic groups survived the Arabs rising in the first place.
 
There is zero gain in helping America, you can see that even more today. They treat their allies worse than their enemy.
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>No please, no more free billions! Why are you doing this to us?? This is worse than 6 million holocausts, won't anyone stop the evil Americans from forcing their free shit down our throats?
 
The weird thing about Trump bombing Iran is I think it's unpopular with everyone. I have yet to see lefties screech about how bombing Iran is good, actually, while most right wingers are against wars in the middle east.

I'm pretty ambivalent about the whole thing. Surprised that Trump ordered the strikes, unsurprised they were successful, and I'm not against bombing foreign enemies. Doubtful we will see boots on the ground. Why bother? There's no area worth securing, and Trump is against "nation building".

This is basically just Trump bullying a retarded nation for no other reason than to show dominance and maintain order, which is a lot better than funding infinity wars in Ukraine.
Trump is doing what every president since Jefferson has and is teaching the Muzzies, yet again, stop fucking around or you will find out. You can dress it up with justifications. But the real reason is that Muslims are niggers that need beatings every once and a while to remember their station in life
 
Funny how often these are stopped at churches by armed guards, but if you suggest teachers should carry handguns, libs lose their minds.
This is retarded, since the actual equivalent would be a saying that the priest/pastor/sunday school teacher at church should carry guns. And train to use them to shoot their parishioners/students if needed. If you think armed guards at churches are great, you’ll love the armed guards they already have at schools.
 
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I just enjoy watching the middle east get fucking blasted, I don't care if it's Isreal or Iran. The people there are hardly people and they would throw any western off a roof for a day's pay. They don't give a fuck about you.
Could that be because we bend over and allow israel to fuck our ass while we fight their wars for them?
 
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Oh, I'm not having any trouble processing it. I just don't believe him, not necessarily in the sense I think he's lying, more like there wasn't enough thought put into doing what was done. Especially as relates to any consequences.
We'll see, won't we? Right now there's zero of our troops over there. We did a drive-by bombing. Nobody in the administration is talking about regime change. Nobody is talking about occupying Iran or sending anyone into it. That's just the actual situation.
 
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Im excited to hear JD Vance give this a proper full throatel, because you just know he will disavow everything come 2028
I like Vance but realistically if Trump keeps doing this retarded Neocon shit he’s going to drag the entire party into the mud with him, you just know Dems are frothing at the mouth at this, pretty much every voter under the age of 60 is pro-isolationism and if Republicans won’t deliver on that then they will never see the White House post-Trump
 
People forget that Muslim Arabs committed some of the most effective genocides in human history, to the point where even titans such as the Egyptian people were effectively destroyed and very little actually being bred in. It was only due to how much of a bitch the region is to travel that some small ethnic groups survived the Arabs rising in the first place.
It really is wild to see how many people here will defend Islam, a religion that nearly destroyed Europe and Christendom, because they hate Jews so much based on infographics they read on /pol/.

@Useful_Mistake can we please have Catch the Rainbow unbanned for this unprecedented event? Even the regulars who argue with him want him back. This thread is gonna be Jewsperging for the next few days anyway due to the news and thread feature, so it's not like it'll be that bad. Pretty please? With sugar on top?
 
I'm not surprised Trump threw his weight behind Israel and bombed Iran. I am surprised at how many normie Christians aren't supporting it. Give me rainbows but I find it a little white pilling tbh.
I've explained this before as well. The Jews Bad Narrative has permeated normie culture. They have purged their good will with the youth. There is no more good will for the Israelites and dragging us into another conflict, warranted or not, is pissing whatever good will is left away. Bibi overplayed his hands and now that every other religion is into the political game, he's losing influence. This is all good and bodes well for the future. The children of tomorrow are very likely to outright reject Israel in the future.

The only problem is...those same normies are then defacto accepting Islam instead. They're choosing Palestine and Islamists over Israel just because they're diametrically opposed and don't understand Islam. They just think Islam is funny dumb brown man religion where they throw women in bags and occasionally say hurka durka. In reality, Islam is a death worshipping cult that molests children and it's a religion basked into more ignorance than Mormonism. The normies don't understand that Islam and secular society cannot co-exist. Islamic culture has them outbreeding and outpacing every other people's and they are installing Sharia Law wherever they go whether people realize it or not. Most people are not willing to accept the notion of "Yes, all Muslims in your community are bad and their religion cannot be tolerated because they will not allow you to co-exist with them". Not enough people are talking about the child rape gangs in the UK or Epic City. They choose to think Islam is just like every other religion when it isn't. Now we're heading for a far worse conflict than I think most KFers really understand. You people really do not hate Islam enough.
 
Trump is doing what every president since Jefferson has and is teaching the Muzzies, yet again, stop fucking around or you will find out. You can dress it up with justifications. But the real reason is that Muslims are niggers that need beatings every once and a while to remember their station in life
If we're larping historical ethno-religous conflicts we should run back The Mormon War and snuff retards like you out of our country before we go after people thousands of miles away
 
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