2025 Israel vs Iran War

Well you don't advocate diplomacy and negotiations and then blow up entire iranian party when they show up.
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It's vile and scummy and US/Israel wiped out their entire reputation with such act.
I think we are viewing two different opinions on this. Great powers do this constantly in the past and if Iran was blowing it off diplomatically even during the talks there will be consequences. You don’t have to like it but that’s just my view.
 
Some random thoughts:
  • I've always heard that a ground invasion of Iran would almost certainly be out of the question given how mountainous and harsh the terrain is and how large the country actually is. This means there is a likelihood they have all sorts of stash points that enemies may not even be aware of. It also means if there was a ground invasion it would turn into a perpetual war like Afghanistan or whatever other shit hole unless an actual regime change happened.
  • Although many people say they're stupid and have held onto their gripes against the US too long I find it kind of ironic considering they're one of the non-globohomo countries. The US is globohomo. I honestly can't blame them for standing their ground for this long given how much the US has fucked around with not only them but the entire middle east.
  • If they actually block the straits of hormuz then there will be far-reaching global economic effects from doing so. It's a very big question if they will resort to that or try to (I think they've only done it once in history) but if you look at the insane amounts of oil ships coming in and out of that region (25% of the world's energy resources flow through it) then the impact would be magnificent.
  • They have their own drone program that from what I have heard is fairly industrious. If they just start targeting a bunch of ships coming through the strait (rather than closing it wholesale) then they can cause an immediate impact on the global economy.
  • Outside of war, they are also a significant part of BRICS and if the US and Israel fuck around too much and cause economic instability then that can inadvertently cause BRICS to more meaningfully materialize which means the US dollar's "power" will be diminished.
  • edit: it seems very unlikely at this stage that a regime change is going to materialize anytime soon. The Obama administration and several others have tried indirect means of getting that to happen (and are probably behind the whole women's rights movement within Iran). It would be an understatement to say they're resistant to the attempts at this stage.
 
Outside of war, they are also a significant part of BRICS and if the US and Israel fuck around too much and cause economic instability then that can inadvertently cause BRICS to more meaningfully materialize which means the US dollar's "power" will be diminished.
BRICS unifying at all? Come on, be serious.
 
Outside of war, they are also a significant part of BRICS and if the US and Israel fuck around too much and cause economic instability then that can inadvertently cause BRICS to more meaningfully materialize which means the US dollar's "power" will be diminished.
Iran is not part of BRICS. It is vaguely BRICS-aligned in a sense but the I and C in BRICS are very sensitive to their oil imports being squeezed which "closing Hormuz" would do. The dollar's power is litrully at the same level (share of foreign currency reserves, share of foreign trade invoices denominated in dollars, share of foreign trade transactions denominated in dollars) it was in 2022 when kicking Russia out of SWIFT was supposed to diminish the dollar's power, can we please stop with the dollar is gonna be destrooyed already
  • If they actually block the straits of hormuz then there will be far-reaching global economic effects from doing so. It's a very big question if they will resort to that or try to (I think they've only done it once in history) but if you look at the insane amounts of oil ships coming in and out of that region (25% of the world's energy resources flow through it) then the impact would be magnificent.
  • They have their own drone program that from what I have heard is fairly industrious. If they just start targeting a bunch of ships coming through the strait (rather than closing it wholesale) then they can cause an immediate impact on the global economy.
 
Erm it is just Concrete And Rock, not Centrifuges or Uranium, obviously everything is fine.
Look at that precision. The holes in the most close in image are ~10-15 feet in diameter. The distance between the holes is ~10 feet, and very uniform.
Apparently the discoloration is not a digital artifact or post-processing. Does anyone know why it is caused to be blue? Copper?
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Judging by the way the blue streaks directly back from the entrances, along the path of the bombs? That might be an indication of subsidance. You would not normally expect a trench or dry Riverbed to run along the path of your facilities entry tunnels. If anything the entry should be in line with a peak or raised area of ground. It's possible that the tunnels collapsed and the ground above them dropped 2-3 meters.

Digging that out will be messy and dangerous. Especially if there are nuclear materials in there that are no longer safely contained. Iranians tend to be better educated than most of the Arab world. Enough that none of them will be enthusiastic about personally digging holes looking for lost uranium and plutonium.
 
  • If they actually block the straits of hormuz then there will be far-reaching global economic effects from doing so. It's a very big question if they will resort to that or try to (I think they've only done it once in history) but if you look at the insane amounts of oil ships coming in and out of that region (25% of the world's energy resources flow through it) then the impact would be magnificent.
they tried that, US raped them with Operation Praying Mantis

  • Outside of war, they are also a significant part of BRICS and if the US and Israel fuck around too much and cause economic instability then that can inadvertently cause BRICS to more meaningfully materialize which means the US dollar's "power" will be diminished.
BRICS is a meme

What is this, a crossover episode?
Mossad and SBU have aligned interests, I wouldn't be surprised if they work together
 
BRICS unifying at all? Come on, be serious.
About 15% of China's oil is from Iran. That may sound like a small percentage but China is fucking giant.
BRICS has slowly been progressing in the background, all it needs is a pivotal event for it to fully materialize.
 
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Oh you've gone and done it now. The chings be chonging. They'll be bolstering their arsenal with more Temu nukes.
 
I think we have quite a few posters here that desperately want brics to become a reality because they want a different world compared to the west. Be careful what you wish for.
It isn't necessarily what people "wish for" but more a part of the global reality and one of the many options that could materialize from something like this. The USD is the dominant global reserve currency and besides geopolitics the current internal state (both politically and economically) of the US is less than stellar.
 
BRICS unifying at all? Come on, be serious.
Expecting China and India to come and resolve their border disputes penis envy while expecting South Africa to become anything less than a dindukang shithole in a near-constant 4-way race war is lulzy at best.

The idea of a Russo-Chinese Axis I can understand the concern, but throwing in Brazil, India and South Africa is fucking absolute joke world
I think we have quite a few posters here that desperately want brics to become a reality because they want a different world compared to the west. Be careful what you wish for.
There is considerable overlap between people who think BRICS is a force to be reckoned with and people who complain about pajeets nonstop in US political threads
 
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Looks like that's just the color of rock if you compare it to Spoil piles (Excavation rubble)


You usually see smoke coming out of air vents if bunkers are hit. Usually
It looks like its the color of the underlying rock. It's the color of what they dig out as spoil. Not the normal surface covering. The fact that there are now huge blue streaks stetching to the right of those 2 eastern entrances would seem to be an indication of surface collapse or subsidance. Those bombs apparently did work as advertised. The question is where are the actual facilities in the tunnels? And did they collapse?
 
I wouldn’t doubt it. But the posts are quite informative and seeing the pol-tards sperging and seething has been quite entertaining. That being said, @Catch The Rainbow how long do you see this blockade on the strait if enforced lasting before that gets taken out as well? Or is that still hush hush at the moment?
If they seriously plan to close it even only for 1 hour israel will immediately strike Kharg island which holds 90% of Iranian oil that basically funds the IRGC.
 
About 15% of China's oil is from Iran. That may sound like a small percentage but China is fucking giant.
BRICS has slowly been progressing in the background, all it needs is a pivotal event for it to fully materialize.
If Iran tries to close the Strait of Hormuz none of its oil is getting to China

BRICS is not real. It has no coordinated, coherent economic, military, or diplomatic policy. At best Russia and China have a semi-coordinated, coherent economic, military, and diplomatic policy. At least until Putin invaded Ukraine, which China disliked because that war is eating up Russia's military and economic vitality, but also kinda liked because it made Russia much more dependent on China

BRICS exists to serve symbolic purposes and give the foolish and resentful grist to sperg with online about how the West is doomed
 
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