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Do you think our weapons appear out of the ether? They don't, they're made by American (most of the time) companies with American workers. The money returns to the economy either way.

The US literally pays itself to make weapons and we also sell those weapons to other countries. Part of the reason we tolerated Europe being our bitch for so long was because we could make them buy billions in US arms
I see that, and also say that welders are part of the infrastructure to make bombs, woth the added bonus of making things that are not bombs as well.

I'm not even saying "don't make weapons." That american made (most of the time) is part of the problem. We lose not only a financial benefit, but a strategic advantage by neglecting american workers. We have to stick our necks into the Middle East and Taiwan because we don't make our own oil and chips domestically. My point with the jobcorp example was outlining how much repubs will neglect americans through lack of training and support. It was a "failing" program that was still very much in the green and producing the workers we need for those weapons.

Trump will support ending illegal immigration and tariffs which support domestic production, but completely fail and supporting the workforce needed for that production. Instead of grants for factories and machining he'll dump it on an "AI infrastructure" which, while I could whine about how it's a technology without a problem to solve or a way to make money, is still reliant on manufacturing from outside the country.
 
So true king, this is exactly like bombing Syria.
Also recall that was another unforced error that President Trump got dog walked into thanks to Ivanka's hysterics over those blatantly staged White Helmet videos of "dead" children following the totally not made up "gas attack."

So if MIGA would like to tie the action in Iran to the Syria bombing, I guess they can. Not a comparison I would wanna make were I them, but OK.
 
Remarks from a number of American politicians and officials on the recent American strike on Iranian nuclear facilities.

Vice President JD Vance:
VICE PRESIDENT VANCE: "We destroyed the Iranian nuclear program ... and we did it without endangering the lives of American pilots. That's an incredible thing."



VANCE: "We do not want war with Iran. We actually want peace, but we want peace in the context of them not having a nuclear weapons program — and that's exactly what the President accomplished last night."



VANCE: "The Iranians are clearly not very good at war. Perhaps they should follow President Trump's lead and give peace a chance."



VP VANCE: "If the Iranians attack us, they're going to be met with overwhelming force ... We did not attack the nation of Iran. We did not attack any civilian targets. We didn't even attack military targets outside of the three nuclear weapons facilities."



VP: "We have to give an incredible amount of gratitude to the troops...They flew thousands of miles away, a 30 hour nonstop flight, they never touched down on the ground & they dropped a 30,000 pound bomb on a target about the size of a washing machine."



JD Vance attempted to assuage the concerns of Americans disillusioned by 25 years of failed “foreign entanglements” in the Middle East by affirming that this time it’ll be different because we don’t have a “dumb president.”



Secretary of State Marco Rubio:
Secretary of State Rubio warns - if Iran retaliates, it’ll be the worst mistake they ever made.

Says the US can fly in and out of Iran at will. (100%. After the IAF spent 9 days obliterating any Iranian air defenses with more than 1,200 airstrikes)



Maria Bartiromo: Do you expect Iran to close the Strait of Hormuz to disrupt oil transportation?Secretary Rubio: "If they do that, it will be another terrible mistake.

It's economic suicide for them if they do it, and we retain options to deal with that."



Secretary of State Rubio: Why does Hamas exist? Because of Iran... Who built the IEDs that maimed and killed American soldiers in Iraq? Iran. They're behind every problem in this region... Imagine those people having a nuclear weapon... That is unacceptable."



Former National Security Advisor John Bolton:

Mustached neocon John Bolton praised Trump’s attack on Iran’s nuclear sites.

“We are on the verge of potentially seeing regime change in Iran.”

 
so has there been confirmation on the base being destroyed? i keep seeing posts like this

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it would be fucking embarrassing if we did all this and didn't actually destroy the base.

you can think it was the right move but this is significantly more serious than anything he did in the first term. probably the most serious since Libya.
The point wasn't to destroy the base, only to destroy their means to enrich the uranium to weapons grade which they apparently did and I personally don't agree with what Trump did but I will say that I understand why he did it, still don't like it but perfect is the enemy of good.
 
I like his style, out loud and proud about the shit we're going to subvert and fuck up in the name of glorious Israel.
In the past we did this too but the Presidents pretended it wasn't us.
This is refreshing honesty in our politics tbh.
 
Former National Security Advisor John Bolton:

Mustached neocon John Bolton praised Trump’s attack on Iran’s nuclear sites.

“We are on the verge of potentially seeing regime change in Iran.”
I hate neocons so goddamned much. Nothing is too horrible for them to suffer.

(Forgive me, Lord)
 
Do you guys really care about this shit with Iran? No bullshit do you legitimately have an interest in this or are you just playing it up to shitpost because I honestly don’t give a fuck unless we actually put boots on the ground.
We care because boots on the ground is legitimately the only outcome from this. This shit is more serious than anything from Trump's first term.
 
Speaking of retarded niggers, only one who's never been in a fight would fail to conceptualize that, in a fight, your opponent gets to decide how they will choose to respond your actions, and that their response can be comprised of anything that you can't prevent them from doing.
Yeah, i'm sure Trump is really afraid of Ai videos and iran wanting to sue the US. Nigger
 
Trump's trying to tell the retards to come to the table or the beatings will continue and to read the fucking room. But Iran might be so retarded they're listening to sovereign citizens tell them what to say from the reddit tab on their old ass iPhone 5. And for all the Robert Barnes Iran shills I highly doubt North Korea or Pakistan (or Russia and Chyna) will be giving nukes to Iran.
 
We care because boots on the ground is legitimately the only outcome from this. This shit is more serious than anything from Trump's first term.
Thank you fatpacks your eternal doom posting lense lets me know what the most black pilled individuals think without having to look for them.
 
How are those absolutely massive mass deportations going btw? You MAGAs manage to remove more than 1% of the illegals yet?

Cause you know chances are a lot of your political capital just got thrown in the trash. Oh, wait, no, you think the opposite just happened. LMAO AF.

Edit: I'm going to lol pretty hard if Donny ends up giving amnesty to a shitload of illegals before 2028.
Of course a boomer chooses illegals over his children.
 
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