2025 Israel vs Iran War

Many of these countries have never recognized the statehood or existence of Israel until now.
This is highly interesting. Is it out of fear, or simply realizing that they can no longer deny what is clearly happening? Or some other reason? And what is the meaning behind ALL of them doing it at once?
this is insane news
Yes, it is, and I think many people are failing to see that. This is changing-world-order kind of shit.
 
They're really happy and they gained respect for Israel. I need to run this by some people though, this is insane news
The Arab States are monarchies. Monarchies don't give out honorifics by accident. They are very careful to make sure everyone's title and mode of address is appropriate. You are probably correct that its a signal they are ready to accept the unacceptable that Israel is just going to be a thing in the middle east for now.
 
There was an interesting quirk about the KSA condemnation of the Israeli strikes

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And the joint condemnation of the attack by Qatar/the rest of MENA


They refer to Israel as Israel. Usually it's simply the Zionist entity. Many of these countries have never recognized the statehood or existence of Israel until now.
So it's gotten to the point where the Arabs aren't even bothering to go out of their way to refer to Israel as 'ZOG' anymore? Resistancebros....
 
No that's Iran and probably Assad-Era Syria, Saudi diplomatic statement have referred to Israel as Israel numerous times even when condemning them.

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These are all English translations, not the official communique. Its very common for something pejorative said or written in Arabic to be translated proper in English.

This shit has been going on for millenia, where the Ottomon sultan would call the Pope "an infidel", but when the message was read out in Latin it was always "your holiness" .
 
Those two words never belong in the same sentence
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Speaking of the Battle of Vienna, I cannot tell you how demoralizing it was going to Vienna and seeing multiple hijab/niqab shops and mudslimes literally EVERYWHERE. It's like, do you not know your own fucking history?
Honestly, I wonder how much of this would have gone down in this way if those retards in Gaza could have kept it in their pants
LMFAO at thinking that the most rage-filled subgroup of inbred mudslimes even has the capacity to "keep it in their pants" and that leftists sucking off "Palestine" globally didn't embolden them a shitton.
Euros would have wagged fingers at us for hurting brown feelings
I guess maybe you guys don't know because all of the semi-ironic anti-Semitism you see here, but as an American who lived in Europe, by and large, Europeans unironically hate Jews. The fact that many Jews have moved out of Europe in the past decade because of the imported Muslims attacking them with impunity is never discussed or thought of as a factor in anything. It's also why European youth are quick to jump on the Mudslime bandwagon since anti-Zionism is drilled into them from a young age and they make the next logical leap of "Mudslimes = good, oppressed precious babies."
 
How is naming a devil by the name good thing ?
When it means naming it gives you the ability to deal with it. If you only speak the name of your enemy through metaphor and never directly name them, you never have the ability to deal with them in the real world. I could be misreading the situation, but this seems like a big deal, and I think it will lead to something big. I think behind the scenes, those in-the-know, probably know that the entire world order is about to shift.
 
Been seeing some cope and seethe over the strikes. People are claiming that the IRGC was able to evacuate all the equipment and cascades and thus the strike didn't do or mean anything. Upon closer inspection, it looks like they had trucks actually filling in the base.

Remember, Iran never thought Trump would actually strike the site and there was real talk about Mossad special forces going in with boots on the ground to take out Fordow the hard way. It was part of the deception that played out on the world stage. Mind you all of this is taking place while Khamenei is hiding in his bunker, leadership, command and communication are in chaos and people are evacuating Tehran. If I am second in command, given the signs I am seeing, it makes sense why they would fill in the bunker as opposed to evacuating the site with all the equipment.

I don't think there was time to coordinate a proper evacuation of the site and if IAF has near full control of the skies, I am not risking sending a convoy of my $200,000-a-pop centrifuges on the road where they can get blown up by drones or missiles. Its far easier to get some dump trucks, fortify positions and hope for the best. Im 99% certain the HEU is gone to a safe and secure storage but its plausible all 3000 centrifuges have been destroyed and that filling in the entrance actually helped the MOPs be more destructive with overpressure. Never underestimate Islamic stupidity.

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When it means naming it gives you the ability to deal with it. If you only speak the name of your enemy through metaphor and never directly name them, you never have the ability to deal with them in the real world. I could be misreading the situation, but this seems like a big deal, and I think it will lead to something big. I think behind the scenes, those in-the-know, probably know that the entire world order is about to shift.
It's pretty wild, hopefully this is the last time we have to worry about the middle east all that much.
 
hopefully this is the last time we have to worry about the middle east all that much.
Hahahah... haha.... haha YEAH RIGHT. Last time we have to worry about the middle eat all that much, HA. DUDE. HAHAHAHA.
I genuinely choked on my drink reading that. I don't know if you remember the LAST big desert war, but that is not how this works. No offense. that legit made me lol.
 
Every fucking time I see the smarming "peace through strength" mentioned after another fucking bombing my autismo shitposter brain just keeps going "These niggas think they're him. They ain't ever gonna be him."
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yes I know the peace through strength shit is a quote of a quote and the peace through tyrrany is a spinoff of that
 
This is highly interesting. Is it out of fear, or simply realizing that they can no longer deny what is clearly happening? Or some other reason? And what is the meaning behind ALL of them doing it at once?
They've gotten tired of waiting for the Palestinians to figure their shit out. Everyone in the region is tired of the Palestinians except the Iranians, and with the Iranians now seemingly off the table, there's very little reason to sit around pretending like the Palestinian cause is worth bothering with.
 
Climb rate is better than F-35 iirc
I always kind of wonder about that. Even with the improved GE F110 engines the F-14B's were always felt to be a bit underpowered. And the F-35's single P&W F135 puts out more thrust than the F-14's 2 engines. On what I presume to be a lighter airframe?
 
So Israel bros, whats the long term thinking here? Trump did the thing so now Israel is saved by his bravery and courage or w/e right? So the bombing can stop now? If Regime change isn't the intended goal then what good does it do you to continue exchanging munitions with Iran other than to destabilize the situation there further at the cost to your own stuff?

Whats the plan here, goys?
Genuine question, how old are you? Because this is very much "teen boy's first foray into historical strategy games" level thinking. "All military actions eventually lead to ground wars and regime change!!!" is such a low IQ mindset I cannot grasp.

To quote the intro of famous science cuck Bill Nye, "Inertia is a property of matter" i.e. world events tend to lean towards nothing happening. Turns out people enjoy not dying for pointless reasons and even the most retardedly loud paper tiger dictatorship knows they can't muster enough morale to fight a useless slaughter that doesn't even offer a chance at anything other than a vague sense of "revenge".

For the trillionth time: this is the trillionth military action Israel and the US have taken against Iran since the Islamic regime took over in 1979 (although they had a year or two head start while Jimmy Carter sat on his cuckstool doing absolute jack shit about the American citizens being held hostage there). What set of circumstances here is any different than the last times that these things happened that would necessitate the situation to go in a different direction?

Iranians as a whole genuinely want the regime gone. But unless Israel and the US have been sending in agents to train resistance groups to fight strategically and give them arms, that's not happening. Do you not know that there was no huge war that ended the Eastern Bloc regimes? Eventually, public support for them completely collapsed and they really had no choice but to allow free elections. That's the way we would hope Iran would go. Out of all anti-American dictatorships (Cuba, Iran, North Korea, and China), Iran would be the most primed to have that kind of situation. But we'll just have to wait and see.
 
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There was an interesting quirk about the KSA condemnation of the Israeli strikes

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And the joint condemnation of the attack by Qatar/the rest of MENA


They refer to Israel as Israel. Usually it's simply the Zionist entity. Many of these countries have never recognized the statehood or existence of Israel until now.
Them condemning the Israeli and American strikes is pure Kabuki Theater and lip service. Most of them DO NOT want Iran with a nuclear weapon. Least of all the Saudi's. They are perfectly happy to let the US and da Joo's deal with the issue so they can keep their hands clean to avoid any problems with the radicals at home. But in truth the House of Saud is overjoyed at everything Iranian going kaboom.
 
They're really happy and they gained respect for Israel. I need to run this by some people though, this is insane news
Why are you surprised oct 7th happened because Saudi was about to normalize relations with israel and Hamas/Iran did everything they could to halt that, it will take a while once Iran is neutralized and has different regime where they can no longer threaten the kingdom of Saudi for wanting to normalize relation with jews.

Abbas Araghchi is still in Russia and soon we will know how much Russia willing to help them.
 
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