2025 Israel vs Iran War
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inetsone
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I'd buy this except, privately, I predicted a lot of this stuff going down, sometimes very accurately, due to finalizing my belief in 2017 that Trump was controlled opposition, who was astro-turfed by the alt-right, which was itself heavily funded across its entire spectrum. I predicted his 2016 win, his 2020 loss, his 2024 comeback story, and his 2024 win, just to name a few.
He's not compensating. He's just the other boot of the global surveillance state (which requires a regionalizing of the US to work. Personally, I believe there's other factors at work here with the tariffs and then Iran, beyond what we're seeing on TV.
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The whole Iran situation is ridiculous, and Trump cemented himself as Prime White Boomer With Holocaust Guilt.
Everyone knows America is interfering with Iran because White Boomers have Holocaust guilt and because of Biblical heresy (dispensationalism), so they want to coddle Israel.
So to me it just looks like a bunch of deranged Boomers on Facebook/X trying to lecture the world on the Holocaust.
Iran has nukes, but so does Russia and China, the whole thing makes no geopolitical sense other than White Boomer Holocaust guilt.
You literally have to be senile to think this is good.
I think for the Russians and the Chinese, they aren't interfering because they have their own problems, but this just makes America look like Israel's bitch and I think this will have unintended consequences especially with US allies who might not feel the alliance is equal, and the non-aligned countries who are probably thinking America is senile. Lol.
America's track record of defending allies is frankly atrocious, remember America joined WW2 after Hawaii was bombed and US soldiers lost the Philippines, so Israel getting special treatment is setting precedents on US alliances.
Everyone knows America is interfering with Iran because White Boomers have Holocaust guilt and because of Biblical heresy (dispensationalism), so they want to coddle Israel.
So to me it just looks like a bunch of deranged Boomers on Facebook/X trying to lecture the world on the Holocaust.
Iran has nukes, but so does Russia and China, the whole thing makes no geopolitical sense other than White Boomer Holocaust guilt.
You literally have to be senile to think this is good.
I think for the Russians and the Chinese, they aren't interfering because they have their own problems, but this just makes America look like Israel's bitch and I think this will have unintended consequences especially with US allies who might not feel the alliance is equal, and the non-aligned countries who are probably thinking America is senile. Lol.
America's track record of defending allies is frankly atrocious, remember America joined WW2 after Hawaii was bombed and US soldiers lost the Philippines, so Israel getting special treatment is setting precedents on US alliances.
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inetsone
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Oh, btw, what do I win, Kiwis???????
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Israel has the most advanced cyber warfare capabilities in the world and shares that technology with the US, which is a lot better than most any ally we have in, say, Europe.
Future and present wars are being fought on the digital frontier as much as physical battlelines. Making sure critical systems fail to operate correctly for your enemy right at the moment of a strike can reduce the amount of manpower and munitions needed to execute a mission.
It cannot be overstated how incredibly different the US and Israeli approach to cybersecurity is.
In the United States, cybersecurity is the work you do if you're not clever enough to get a comp sci degree but still want to "work with computers." Typical cybersecurity practitioners in the US come from an IT background, and they usually don't have any coding/development capabilities. They're button pushers who learn a range of tools to press buttons with.
The US approach is the approach of pretty much everyone out there. Cyber guys are the also-ran of the tech industry.
Except in Israel.
In Israel, everyone's drafted when they turn 18. That has a lot of interesting knock-on effects, but one of the most interesting parts of having your whole country in military service is that you can literally test everyone to see what they're good at. In Israel, the people who would have been top-of-their-class comp sci students, the supergeniuses who do research and drive whole new fields of study, are found during military testing and all diverted to cybersecurity units 8100/8200.
Once they're in those units, the best fictional analogue is Ender's Game. You've got a group of people who have been picked as the best of the best, working constantly in simulated war games and some of those "simulations" turn out to have real-world impact. Even more importantly, these guys all know each other. In America or other countries doing the more typical "IT nerd goes into cyber" thing, these introverted nerds generally barely talk to one another outside of their own individual organization. In Israel they're constantly combining ideas, staying up late with their buddies to talk about some theoretical attack vector, and generally making digital warfare a huge part of their life, not just their job.
The US can't match that with anything we've got going. I think the Space Force should expand into being the Space & Cyber Force, with a real service academy that can give free college out to a bunch of promising young white males who have no chance at a full scholarship for comp sci elsewhere because those programs have gotten so competitive. To compete in this part of warfare, we genuinely need people who eat/sleep/breathe cybersecurity from the time they're in their late teens. It's not an impossible task for the US, even without conscription, because our population is so much bigger so there are more potential recruits. But it would take a whole different way of thinking about cybersecurity and cyber warfare.
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Iran doesn't have nukes, that's the point. Israel is effectively a mad dog that the US uses to keep the Middle East in line, and Iran getting a nuke would effectively turn them into another North Korea. The Arabs do not need to be emboldened by thinking they can be allowed to have nuclear weapons, because all it does is legitimize their retarded ideology.
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"Jews aren't a monolith, there is constant visible evidence of dissent and disagreement inside the jewish diaspora"
"Yes they are, because if you attack them as a group they will show group behavior traits"
the huwhite race everybody
can you really not envision any strategic interests for America, a de facto global empire, in the biggest energy producing region on earth? If you let go of some of your preconceived ideas you'll be able to have clear thoughts that are logically consistent with the visible world.
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China is interested on discounted Iranian oil. Iran is one of China's major energy partners. They are basically fueling China's economy. I doubt to see them not getting involved in a major way if America invades.
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So how does bombing a prison, a media station, and non-nuclear energy infrastructure keep Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons exactly?
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This is not a good thing because they're only using the wars to test the tech they transfer to the US to further finalize a control grid of epic proportions. You might argue that's a good ally to have, but as others have noted, the alliance doesn't seem to extend very far and only to corrupt techbros (who are completely un-American) at the top with direct involvement in creating this control grid.
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Trump is just hoping for sleeper cell terrorism in USA.
What a ground to ban ALL TRAVEL from ALL third world shit hole. Europe and Canada included.
What a ground to ban ALL TRAVEL from ALL third world shit hole. Europe and Canada included.
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Sure, but until we decide to take on some of that burden ourselves, our only option is allyship. I'd be delighted for us to have a Cyber Force and have a bunch of our best & brightest sign up for it. It would significantly reduce our dependency on Israel. But even if we started today, it'd take 10-15 years to achieve parity.
Similarly, if we hadn't been building aircraft for our military, we'd have to depend on someone who did. Is that a great thing? No, but it's better than not having someone you can depend on for that. I'm sure a lot of countries feel about American air defense the way we feel about Israeli cyber defense: that it potentially sets us up for bad scenarios and we'd rather not need it. But "not needing it" requires significant adjustments to spending priorities. The reason we don't do it is the same reason the EU doesn't actually build enough bombers to defend Europe: it's easier to let someone else do it. Doesn't mean the power being relied on is good or bad, just that it's necessary to obtain it from somewhere and this is the most convenient way at this time.
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**Khamenei has gone into hiding with his family and is being guarded by the Vali-ye Amr special forces unit of the Revolutionary Guards, a top security official said.**
They start far earlier,
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I honestly don't know if JK Rowling is based or just bitch bitter about the ordeal that she had to overcome because of the Left.
Anyway, lol...
Anyway, lol...
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The jews are just trolling at this point.
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REGIME CHANGE, MOTHERFUCKER.
Next stage is smuggling weapons to anti government forces.
Ops lolz
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A Cardboard Box
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Considering that their uranium is rocks, powders, and hex in an amount which could fit into a single shipping container, and Iran is basically a giant mountain range the size of Texas, this is not surprising.
If you really think that, I have beachfront property to sell you. Right on the Gulf, just up in Montana.
Dismantling the capacity for Iran, a nation hostile to the United States, who has launched numerous attacks against the United States, who has killed US servicemen, who operates a network of dozens of proxies consisting of tens of thousands of militiamen across the region, who has been destabilizing US allies for two decades, who is funding a terror group attacking global shipping, who is pursuing a nuclear weapon, makes probably the most sense out of any intervention the US has made in the last twenty years. Holy shit.
The US was the one concerned with nuclear weapons specifically. Israel is destroying Iran's capacity to wage war entirely, and is beginning to destabilize the regime, signaling their strength and willingness to continue despite Iranian threats.
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It stems that they view everyone else, including US as an enemy.
It is like a rabid dog that is just looking to bite someone.
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I think it's a realistic and shrewd interpretation of "how do we get the most bang for our buck?"
Israel knows that other countries in the West are severely neglecting cybersecurity. It's a lot cheaper to train cyber recruits than it is to build bombers.
The US has the biggest military force in the world by a long shot. Is that because we view everyone else as an enemy, or because we want to be capable of defending ourselves and our allies? I believe it's the latter, and I think Israel is not somehow a goblin country full of rabid dogs just because they decided to git gud at one small but critical aspect of defense before anyone else realized its full importance.