Not Just Bikes / r/fuckcars / Urbanists / New Urbanism / Car-Free / Anti-Car - People and grifters who hate personal transport, freedom, cars, roads, suburbs, and are obsessed with city planning and urban design

[Xarpho's Return]

Guerrilla road markings aren't fun anymore:

If there's one thing the leftist hates is their own tactics being used against them. Up until the mid-2010s, using low-IQ soundbites was exclusively their territory and helped win elections. Guess who appropriated that?

I highly doubt it's occurring for the reasons Jason is saying. People are VERY willing to spend money on media they like, especially leftists who love to give people like Hasan Piker money. If you can't get them to give you money that's a skill issue.

I suspect a larger reason for the decline in money is due to people getting bored of the subject. I've stop donating to things I used to like because I just got bored of the project and stopped following it. Jason's cope is he must believe that his fans are on their last dime and would LOVE to give him money if only they had it. No they just moved on.

If Jason can't even secure a Raid Shadow Legends sponsorship as I said skill issue.

"Speaking of car free transport, you know what I do in my free time I save while on the train from not taking car dependant transport? I play Raid Shadow Legends. It's my favorite mobile game to play on the go. Use my promo code STROADS and get 3 premium characters for free and join the mobile sensation that is RAID SHADOW LEGENDS"

First off, I don't Jason is telling the truth about "every single one is 'My financial situation has changed'", even if it was the numbers would be fucked since that's an optional survey. He lies all the time.

Here's what Patreon's official page has:

Exit surveys offer insights into why a member has canceled their membership. Members can select one of the following reasons for canceling:
• I was overcharged
• I'm not happy with Patreon's features or services
• I only became a member to receive a specific benefit and now I've got it
• It was too hard to find or access my benefits/rewards
• I only intended to give [CREATOR] a specific amount of money and now I have
• [CREATOR] wasn't as active as I expected
• I didn't like the benefits/rewards that I received from [CREATOR]
• I didn't receive the benefits/rewards described on [CREATOR]'s Patreon page
• My financial situation changed
• Some other reason — members can further explain in a text field

Furthermore, "my financial situation has changed" is such a broad topic to the extent it can just as much be "I have a real job now and I drive a car" as "I lost my job". (Furthermore, I suspect that Jason's audience never had a job to begin with, why would you have more time on your hands and less opportunity to watch some emasculated asshole whine about infrastructure).

Tom Nicholas is a breadtuber whose video on Fascism is quite bad as he doesn't even engage with any of the minds behind it to understand the ideology. The fact that breadtuber content is actually declining puts a big smile on my face as perhaps their big rise was artificial.

Big hopes it happens to Jason, especially since unlike most Breadtubers he has a borderline hostile relationship with his audience.

Figures this tubby dork was pals with Jason, Jason doesn't engage with anybody either and as a result his content is just misinformed screaming into the wind. @Yamamura brought up Hasan Piker who is popular in the left-wing circles, and I think part of it is that Hasan will engage with his critics, and ends up getting felted by someone like H3, that's still eyes on his channel and clicks. I'm not sure if he knows this or not, but it seems to have worked for him.

It doesn't help Jason's case that he gets all his ideas and arguments from Strong Towns and others, so when it comes something like original thought or defending himself get old quickly. Really says a lot when these urbanist/transit YouTubers will never invite a "carbrain" on to destroy them with FACTS and LOGIC, because they can't answer questions like "if the subway isn't 100% full, is it truly more efficient?" or "if your theory on induced demand is correct, wouldn't I-895 see reduced volume and congestion post-FSK Bridge collapse?"

Their antics at town hall meetings are similar to how they'd behave in a debate, it would be a matter of time before they're screeching about "killing kids" or screaming about the oil industry, and unlike Hasan they wouldn't lose all composure around the four hour mark, it would be much, MUCH sooner.

 

[TORtlEMUStRaNSUS]

Radio/music, map and general settings can be touchscreen only as those aren't usually changed mid-road. Except maybe the volume knob. But AC, lights, turn signals and wipers should absolutely be physical button only

Maps and Radio settings are absolutely changed mid-drive. I have no issues with a modular display, but physical buttons are needed for eyes-free use. There is not good solution for this with maps as they all use android or apple auto, but with music there should be knobs for volume, station, tracks, etc. that these apps can communicate with.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

Maps and Radio settings are absolutely changed mid-drive. I have no issues with a modular display, but physical buttons are needed for eyes-free use. There is not good solution for this with maps as they all use android or apple auto, but with music there should be knobs for volume, station, tracks, etc. that these apps can communicate with.

I have a 2018 Equinox, and I feel that the method given there isn’t too bad. Volume, radio direction, and the home button are all manual, and swapping sources isn't too hard from the touchscreen. I don't know if I’m just overconfident with the system, but it does feel a bit easier than trying to click through the sources on a manual system.

 

[Yamamura]

Maps and Radio settings are absolutely changed mid-drive. I have no issues with a modular display, but physical buttons are needed for eyes-free use. There is not good solution for this with maps as they all use android or apple auto, but with music there should be knobs for volume, station, tracks, etc. that these apps can communicate with.

I have a 2018 Equinox, and I feel that the method given there isn’t too bad. Volume, radio direction, and the home button are all manual, and swapping sources isn't too hard from the touchscreen. I don't know if I’m just overconfident with the system, but it does feel a bit easier than trying to click through the sources on a manual system.

I partially agree, I think there are cases where touchscreens excel at by nature. To their credit the benefit of why they're so prevalent in the first place is because they're naturally intuitive. One of the things I agree with Steve Jobs for saying was during the first keynote for the first iPhone :

Well, the problem with them is really sort of in the bottom 40 there. It’s this stuff right there. They all have these keyboards that are there whether or not you need them to be there. And they all have these control buttons that are fixed in plastic and are the same for every application. Well, every application wants a slightly different user interface, a slightly optimized set of buttons, just for it. And what happens if you think of a great idea six months from now? You can’t run around and add a button to these things. They’re already shipped. So what do you do?

There's pros and cons the downside of touchscreens is that they hog your attention because they require you to be physically looking at it in order to use it. The upside is that they're easy to learn to use and easier for companies to implement. I think it's possible to strike a happy medium, allocate functions that can be taken away from the touchscreen as you can like, answer call, increase and decrease volume, next track, cancel, etc. But leave things that are naturally hard to translate to the touchscreen.

Related:

(Furthermore, I suspect that Jason's audience never had a job to begin with,

I think so as well, if they really are the same demographic as fuckcars are (aka kids). They don't usually have regular income aside from birthday money or gifts. Think about all the other stuff they could spend money on besides giving it to Jason. It's a tough sell, he's competing with money that could be used for snack foods, video games, an actual fucking bike instead of watching someone talk about bikes.

Though I find that similar to some right or left wing grifters more times than not, it can be that people are not actually interested in viewing the content itself, rather they think of giving their money to that person like a surrogate for voting with their wallet. They believe if they give this person money it will somehow further their interests to own the libs/chuds

 

[Thrak]

This isn't the fault of trucks, though. America gave up on 'engaging driving experiences' a long time ago, possibly even the 70s depending on who you talk to. I mean, it's taken GM with their millions of RnDbuxx HOW long to do a mid-engine Corvette? And lets not talk about what they did to the Fiero...

The bulk of the country's being so flat kinda doomed us to this fate. Of course that makes it even more ridiculous that the Interstates weren't built specifically to accommodate uninterrupted and intuitive driving without limits like Germany's, but that's a discussion super far removed from this one. Then again, maybe it's time for an Anti-Not Just Bikes to advocate for America to be rebuilt into one big Forza Horizon map. We shouldn't have to choose between endless tech-migration-driven cookie cutter sprawl and pin straight roads with the lowest speed limits in the world or North Korea. There is a third position that must be embraced.

GM is so fucking frustrating and tragic. Their entire existence is snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The "Chevrolet SS" will always be a Chevelle to me. At least we finally got what the Corvette was always supposed to be, even if anything more than the base engine is no longer attainable by the proletariat. They could've helped people forget about the Fiero by selling the Opel Speedster under that name here. They did the inverse with exporting the Solstice/Sky as the Opel GT so I can't imagine it would've been that hard

Jason's paypigs are canceling their subscriptions to him and his friends:
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Also, Nebula (the "by creators for creators" video site that Jason is invested in) takes a larger cut than YouTube (the evil megacorporation) does:
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YouTube ad revenue and YouTube premium subscriptions are split 55/45 in favor of the video maker and memberships/superchats are split 70/30, again in favor of the creator.

Communists can decry the laws of thermodynamics as the work of the demiurge and tell themselves that if they close their eyes, plug their ears and shout down the people who tell them that they're real then everyone can have medium-six-figure WFH email-answering and "influencer" jobs, but it will inevitably catch up with them. You can only vote to deindustrialize and disenfranchise White men except for you and then further vote to import the entire nonwhite population of the earth to take the remaining jobs before your fancy Party propaganda "job" gets the axe. The parents of the kids you voted to prevent from being employed will eventually die or blow the rest of the old money they were giving them. Jason and his buttbuddies are nowhere near as important to the system they know they're a part of but LARP as hating as they think they are. The most useful and expendable of idiots who got the bullet long before the revolution was over.

"I have a real job now and I drive a car"

Cars and their associated infrastructure are just too efficient and productive. Everyone will accept this on a long enough time frame. They have to if they want civilization to function. America can't subsidize a continent of children living in Disneyland forever. You WILL drive the fullsize pickup. You WILL live in the single-family home. You WILL work a tangible 9-5. It is inevitable. Manifest Destiny

 

[quaawaa]

At least we finally got what the Corvette was always supposed to be, even if anything more than the base engine is no longer attainable by the proletariat.

The halo model is still a good deal relative to its competitors. The ZR1X has similar performance as multi-million dollar hypercars but "only" costs $250k.

 

[Jotch]

Remember, if you ride alone you ride with Hitler.

 

[Apple Porcupine]

First off, I don't Jason is telling the truth about "every single one is 'My financial situation has changed'", even if it was the numbers would be fucked since that's an optional survey. He lies all the time.

Here's what Patreon's official page has:

Furthermore, "my financial situation has changed" is such a broad topic to the extent it can just as much be "I have a real job now and I drive a car" as "I lost my job". (Furthermore, I suspect that Jason's audience never had a job to begin with, why would you have more time on your hands and less opportunity to watch some emasculated asshole whine about infrastructure).

I'd imagine that's probably the most common response from the list across Patreon as a whole regardless of if it's actually true or not because it's the least confrontational. If you've given money to someone for their work and pull it, even if it's because you're tired of paying for their work, you still might feel a little bit of a parasocial relationship and don't want it to sting unless they've just stopped posting entirely or fell off a cliff quality-wise for no reason. Jason lies all the time but I'd bet at least some of it is a lie on the part of the patron because it's the "easiest" for the creator to understand, no one leaves feeling bad. Or maybe they just don't want people like Jason talking about them: "This IGNORANT AMERICAN stopped giving me money because I said ONE TINY THING they disagreed with, can't believe this smh brb wiping my tears with dollar bills" and so on and so forth.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

I could ramble on endlessly about my autism pertaining to this subject and everything surrounding it but I'll do my best to be brief: I'm a huge (American) car guy and wish platforms like the Commodore/Falcon/Charger/modern Cadillacs and their ute and wagon variants were what the American market demanded and defined the world's conception of modern American cars (I.E. proletariat alternatives to the German luxury sedans and broader European sports cars: more affordable, more reliable, more powerful and simpler/more mechanical/visceral than their overengineered European counterparts) but since that's neven going to happen I'm settling for cheering on the Complete Global Saturation of the Yank Tank. American car offerings could be so much cooler and far more diverse - and probably would be if the roads were designed and maintained better and most of the biomass currently on them was deported, put back in the kitchen or pillow'd where applicable so it could once again become the sole domain of the Young White Male as God intended - but I completely understand why the average normie would take a fullsize quad cab over a ute or take a Suburban over a sporty low-slung wagon any day of the week. The comfort, utility, versatility, reliability, low maintenance cost, passenger safety and fuel economy competitive with passenger vehicles is the obvious choice for people that don't care about cars or engaging driving experience at all but also recognize how much better driving is than any other form of getting around or transporting things.

Half the reason why American cars are what they are is because of government regulations about mileage and energy efficiency and other stuff.

The roads being the way they are is due to a lot of flat space but even if you took a good number of the olds/immigrants/women off the roads it would only improve the experience in less volume, and a lot of the potentially fun stretches are monitored by your local no-fun squad (the police) who will set up speed traps. The famous "Tail of the Dragon" between Tennessee and North Carolina has speed limits of only 40 or 45 mph, depending on what side you're on.

As a whole, most of America is uncucked when it comes to speed limits, and avoiding speed traps is a combination of gaming the system and luck, as well as knowing when speed limits are a suggestion and when they are strictly enforced. Drive 40 in a 30 mph zone in Houston and no one will care (because they're also driving 40, cops will go even faster), drive 40 in a 30 mph zone, in say, Mexia, and you'll see flashing lights.

I'd imagine that's probably the most common response from the list across Patreon as a whole regardless of if it's actually true or not because it's the least confrontational. If you've given money to someone for their work and pull it, even if it's because you're tired of paying for their work, you still might feel a little bit of a parasocial relationship and don't want it to sting unless they've just stopped posting entirely or fell off a cliff quality-wise for no reason. Jason lies all the time but I'd bet at least some of it is a lie on the part of the patron because it's the "easiest" for the creator to understand, no one leaves feeling bad. Or maybe they just don't want people like Jason talking about them: "This IGNORANT AMERICAN stopped giving me money because I said ONE TINY THING they disagreed with, can't believe this smh brb wiping my tears with dollar bills" and so on and so forth.

Know what? I think I remember cutting a Patreon account sometime around late 2021 (based on downloads I have) even though my financial situation hadn't actually "changed", I was just going through and changing stuff. People change their preferences for what they want to do all the time and value certain things more than other things, and going through these processes, you're not spending any less money, things get cut. You're not lying because "I did budgeting and I'd rather spend my (stable income) on something that's not just you saying stuff" is still "changed financial situation".

By looking at the other options you can see that none of them are really good ones:
• I was overcharged (almost never a problem unless they were running some sort of scam)
• I'm not happy with Patreon's features or services (the benefits of your favorite creator usually outweigh that)
• I only became a member to receive a specific benefit and now I've got it (makes you look like a scumbag)
• It was too hard to find or access my benefits/rewards (almost never true)
• I only intended to give [CREATOR] a specific amount of money and now I have (also makes you look like a scumbag)
• [CREATOR] wasn't as active as I expected (usually untrue)
• I didn't like the benefits/rewards that I received from [CREATOR] (pretty pointless since you're leaving anyway)
• I didn't receive the benefits/rewards described on [CREATOR]'s Patreon page (also usually not a problem except in scams)

The "other" box is not used because people aren't that creative, and more trouble than its worth. If you left something negative, anything from "I wanted to learn something new from NJB, unfortunately he seems to just regurgitate others' opinions without adding anything of his own" to "This guy is a total FAG and talks out of his ASS when it's not being used by BLACK MAN DICK", Jason seems vengeful enough that there WILL be blowback, and he's got enough psychotic friends on YouTube to do his dirty work.

I partially agree, I think there are cases where touchscreens excel at by nature. To their credit the benefit of why they're so prevalent in the first place is because they're naturally intuitive. One of the things I agree with Steve Jobs for saying was during the first keynote for the first iPhone :

It does help the iPhone's case that before it was released, touchscreens were notoriously finicky and had "soft" screens that were easily scratched or damaged, which is why a lot of these things had styluses. Screen protectors helped with the damage/smudging issues but made them less sensitive (a well-loved DS or DS Lite probably looks like the surface of the moon at this point, even if it wasn't abused).

 

[S.C.U.D.]

They're just being nice to him. The real reason for quitting a Patreon is always "I don't want to support you anymore" but most people don't want to say it.

 

[Kyria the Great]

Remember, if you ride alone you ride with Hitler.

Well I must be Hitler's top guy then, oh no.

 

[Lovely Kin]

They're just being nice to him. The real reason for quitting a Patreon is always "I don't want to support you anymore" but most people don't want to say it.

Or the alternative is "You're an annoying cunt" but I doubt that's a true option

 

[quaawaa]

Who is at fault for cyclists refusing to yield to pedestrians? /r/fuckcars discusses:

Road diets for bikes:



There is disagreement on that though:


The same user also thinks that stop signs should be banned (especially for bikes):


Another user is getting downvoted for quoting Jason:


He gets called "car brained for bikes":


The cyclists should take transit instead:

The last paragraph is insane. The ultimate form of the urbanist is not allowing you to travel at all by any mode of transport.



Asshole cyclists are actually drivers:


Telling cyclists to yield to pedestrians is "carbrained":


Calling respectable cyclists in the original thread Uncle Toms for saying that cyclists should always yield to pedestrians:


They actually said that cyclists are more aggressive than drivers:


Has hell frozen over?

You can't expect cyclists to notice a crosswalk:


They have to run red lights and push past pedestrians because their rental bikes are too expensive:


In the Holy Land, cyclists don't have to yield to pedestrians:

In the Netherlands, they get fined though.

/r/fuckbikes:


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[A ghoul teaching his son]

/r/fuckcars discusses motorcycles:
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TL;DR:
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Motorcycles are bad because you have to wear a helmet on them:
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Most people have never had a friendly interaction with a cyclist:
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Rural people can just take their pedal bike on a twice daily bus:
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Remember, these people hate 50cc motorcycles common in the third world:
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Motorcycles, unlike e-bikes, aren't used for utility:
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Electric motorcycles exist, by the way.
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Wait till you hear what the average New Yorker thinks of e-bike deliverymen:
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Motorcycles are as bad as cars:
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Motorcycles are dangerous (but e-bikes are not?):
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What is it about the Internal combustion Engine that triggers these retards so much. Do they just hate cool stuff? Moving around powered by miniaturized explosions is one of the coolest things ever. In practical terms a bicycle with an electric engine and a small motorcycle with 50cc, have the same order of magnitude horse power 0.5 to 2 or so. Except the motorbike usually has a bunch safety regulations, and in most places you might need a license. It's true that there's ton of shitty motoriders with similar mentality to cyclist, but at least you got foundations like MSF that will drill into people that riding is dangerous, and also regularly point out that cars might not see you because the other enormous metal structures are also moving about, a smaller obstacle will be de prioritized, and therefore it is the "responsibility" if the rider to account for this and be safe. Bike cucks cannot fathom the concept of personal responsibility.

Something I don't understand is why do they hate mountain bikes? Generally on average they're cheaper than a road bike, can take them on dirt trails, and it's people going to use it. Are they just elitist pricks ?

Probably the elitist thing. People who ride mountain bikes, even as a commute will usually do it out of convinience, not "principle", getting to work on a bike might be cheaper/healthier/more relaxing and take about the same as with a car in those cases, but they would non-retarded enough to use a car if they need to go further away, or transport stuff and people.

FortNine has a good video arguing that e-bikes are actually more dangerous than motorcycles. Of course, the comments have been invaded by urbanists too.

FortNine makes great informed content. He basically did the same video about pickups that notjustcucks did, but actually test drove the trucks, presented scientific studies to back his claim, and more effectively showed how silly those huge engine bays are by standing his 6'2" ass in there, a long with the usual helping of history, engineering and humor. And the whole time he's just pointing at the manufacturer, rather than shaming the people who buy it.

I don't have time to watch right now but it would seem obvious considering how motorcyclists wear DOT rated helmets, and at a minimum a sturdy jacket & jeans if not borderline body armor, plus how motorcycles can keep up with regular traffic and generally obey normal traffic laws.

The average guy on an ebike is going 40km/h in a bike lane or weaving in and out of traffic while wearing a tshirt and a piece of foam on his head.

Pretty much, he basically stated that an ebike is just a motorcycle that skirts all regulations, and its riders are retards that put themselves in danger, since they are usually not trained in handling that kind of vehicle power, and since they are even tinier and make no sound they are even harder to spot for drivers, add that to the bikecuck retardation and you have ton of accidents.
Small edit to my last point: as shown by the post in r/fuckcars, cyclist are allergic mentally/spiritually/physically to responsibility, further more those who show it are inferior to their enlightened reddit ass. They shouldn't have to wear protective gear becuase everyone else has to avoid me, and all road conditions must 1000% perfect all the time. They shouldn't stop for pedestrians because they are peasants that should be riding their bicycles to cross the street, etc. etc.

 

[Yamamura]

What is it about the Internal combustion Engine that triggers these retards so much.

They believe science more to a dogmatic degree than a practical one. It doesn't matter that literally the first world makes a fraction of the pollution that the third world does. If they see a kid on a mini bike or a guy driving a truck something triggers in their brains seeing smoking coming out of an exhaust pipe right in front of them. Never mind the greater sources of pollution coming from things like international shipping or operating large cities themselves.

Harping over an average dude for driving an ICE vehicle is like spending a dollar to save a penny.

 

[80's Dad]

Having a little crosswalk for pedestrians to cross a bike lane is the gayest thing I've seen.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Big hopes it happens to Jason, especially since unlike most Breadtubers he has a borderline hostile relationship with his audience.

The only person that has more contempt for their audience than Jason is Sven (Jesse) on TRS.

It doesn't help Jason's case that he gets all his ideas and arguments from Strong Towns and others, so when it comes something like original thought or defending himself get old quickly. Really says a lot when these urbanist/transit YouTubers will never invite a "carbrain" on to destroy them with FACTS and LOGIC, because they can't answer questions like "if the subway isn't 100% full, is it truly more efficient?" or "if your theory on induced demand is correct, wouldn't I-895 see reduced volume and congestion post-FSK Bridge collapse?"

They know that all the Beaner Streamers in the Alt Right would totally own them by just arguing rightly that the issue to why we can't have nice cities is Niggers

 

[Xarpho's Return]

There is disagreement on that though:

When you're going top speed on a bicycle, stopping is annoying (and can be risky in some cases) but they use the stopping distance argument when it comes to why bicycles are superior.

Calling respectable cyclists in the original thread Uncle Toms for saying that cyclists should always yield to pedestrians:

"As an X..." or "X here..." are cancer on Reddit and are tells you're dealing with a massive douchebag. Good to see a little self-awareness on Reddit.

They have to run red lights and push past pedestrians because their rental bikes are too expensive:

Yet another "rules for thee, not for me". They'll never respect time and money when it comes to motorists (OMG four minutes won't kill you) but suddenly when their time and money is wasted it's suddenly a deal killer. If page is still accurate, four extra minutes is a dollar. Really jogs the noggin.

They know that all the Beaner Streamers in the Alt Right would totally own them by just arguing rightly that the issue to why we can't have nice cities is Niggers

That might explain why Americans aren't big into mass transit, but they rely on a bunch of "facts" that are either over-generalized or completely falsified. You've seen them have interactions in IRL, it's not going to take much to unravel someone like that.

It all depends on where they are in their arguments. So when they're in the smug, informative mood, that's when you say "actually, if you look at the Ferguson budget, they aren't taking out loans for infrastructure, they're taking out loans for re-development. The whole premise that you're basing this one is false" and when they're going on unhinged rants about muh keeds, that's when you pull out the zingers.

- "Why are you fantasizing about running over half a dozen children, what the fuck is wrong with you?"
- "If I was stuck on a train with a filthy toilet and shitty food, then seeing a Buc-ee's would make me angry too."
- "Yes, I see that Kansas City looks a lot more barren these days than in the 1940s. You're forgetting that during that time, certain laws gave what you call 'societal issues' more rights..."

 

[BulkForceFive]

Except the motorbike usually has a bunch safety regulations, and in most places you might need a license

They also kill assholes. If you know an asshole who bought himself a litre bike, you won't for much longer. Bad motorcyclists turn themselves into greasy smears on a guardrail but bad cyclists just bump into pedestrians, flop onto car hoods and then roll on the ground clutching their sprained ankle and crying... then a week later they're back to being retarded on their bike

 

[A ghoul teaching his son]

They also kill assholes. If you know an asshole who bought himself a litre bike, you won't for much longer. Bad motorcyclists turn themselves into greasy smears on a guardrail but bad cyclists just bump into pedestrians, flop onto car hoods and then roll on the ground clutching their sprained ankle and crying... then a week later they're back to being retarded on their bike

>Motorbikes select for wisdom, intelligence and reflexes
ICE supremacy strikes again.