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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
I did get back to my professional career a few months later but I didnt disclose the job I had inbetween as a previous job inteview took the piss out it asking why I was working 'beneath my skillset' . I do wonder if that knocks Barry (30 ans) going for jobs.
I absolutely hate the attitude of the people that asked you the question about working below your skillset. This is a real bête noire of mine. The entirely condescending nature of that question, it's derogatory tone, the attitude behind it. So it's better to do nothing, contribute nothing to society and pay no taxes, than it is to do an honest day's work, make a contribution and pay taxes ?
The interviewers should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. If I was interviewing you, I would have seen the fact that you chose to be busy and not be a burden on a society, but still be a net contributor as a massive positive statement about your character.
On another note, at least in my current job I have been able to slash outsourcing after a lot of pushback. Letting someone with dubious qualifications from some no-name university in India (only about four over there have any international standing) do technical work never works. Sure, they are cheap, but they have a habit of failing to understand what you are asking them, never asking for clarification and producing what they think you meant, which is inevitably wrong.
There is a gradual realisation of this across the board I think. As my ( old and as a consequence, wise ) grandmother used to say "cheapest is most expensive in the long run". This is a typical middle management "yes man" decision to outsource. The average middle manager doesn't care about how well the outsourced task is done. They care about the bottom line. If that decision means the company saves millions, then they will get a taste of that come bonus time. Do that for two years and move on to the next bunch of mugs. No consequences and two bonuses banked.
Slowly I think upper management are beginning to get wise to this little scheme. Certainly in my industry it mirrors your experience. They're fine with anything that just directly follows a procedure ( surely this will all be replaced by AI soon - pajeet unemployment, that would be a shame ) but anything that has nuance, some sort of decision that requires responsibility or actually comprehending a stake holder's request, they fall woefully short. I took great delight in sharing this feedback with our "leaders" recently.
 
My guess is a Reform candidate gets Cox'd. Genuinely think as we get closer to the elections that someone will try and take a potshot at Farage because they think if he dies, Reform dies. Probably why he's spending so much time in the US at the moment as he knows there's an absolute powder keg about to drop and would rather it be a nameless Reform candidate than him so he could petition to get an armed guard.

But that's more a later thing, as far as this Summer goes a blackout is a good shout. Before the Iran-Israel shit became cold again my biggest fear was Iranians basically going "right, I'm going to get shot anyway so any terrorist cells in the UK might as well do something before I perish", but that's pretty much dropped now, plus Mossad pretty much has the entire Iranian network compromised anyway so we'd know before it happened (like the Synagogue attempt)

In reality, I think absolutely nothing is going to happen this Summer. Mainly because everybody is itching for something to happen, and when you think something is going to happen it doesn't. Nothing ever happens.
You're over-thinking it. If you want to know whether things will kick off in the UK or not, there's a far simpler way to check:
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There you go - rain and middling temperatures. Ergo, things wont kick off.

(Only semi-joking)
 
All the traditional meeting grounds are gone. Churches, pubs (how did loners meet people in pubs any way?) or village events. No one talks any more and I can't figure out how we can solve it in the current year. I would like to meet more people in my community, start building a larger social network so when shit gets bad there's more people who know me and trust me. Social prepping is the difference between life and death in a collapsing country and the internet has made it obsolete.
Funnily enough, want to know the best place to find 99.99% white British people in a social setting? Practically any metal gig.

It's hilarious, I'll go to Glasgow and be surrounded by white people, I'll go to Manchester and be surrounded by white people, I'll go to Birmingham (!!!!!) and be surrounded by white people, Metal music is pretty much the biggest nigger filter I've ever seen and it's always fucking hilarious seeing the nogs at the door giving everyone an extensive pat down as if we're actually going to chimp out.

I've made it my goal to go to as many metal and punk gigs as I can simply because the vibe is something else. No fear of being Ariana Grande'd, no fear of being stabbed and no fear of getting pickpocketed. It's like going back 30 years into a high trust society again.
 
People unironically being hyped for Pulp in the year of our lord 2025? Like we were talking about the Manics being shite for the past 20 years or so but Pulp barely has enough decent tracks to fit on a single.

I absolutely love Pulp as a band, they were around long before Britpop was even a thing. That said, I actually kind of agree with you. As a fan, We Love Life was a perfect sendoff for the band, but they should never have come back. I actually gave the album More a listen, and I think it blows chunks. Jarvis sounds fucking ancient.

But to be honest, it's a same with a lot of the bands from the 80s and the 90s. Ride are one of my all time favourite bands, and their comeback tour was incredible, but everything they've released after their reunion in 2015 has been terrible, aside from two or three tracks. Same with Slowdive, amazing comeback tour, almost everything they recorded afterwards was garbage. Blur's last album in 2023 should never have been recorded. I think the only Britpop band that came back and sounded decent was fucking Sleeper of all things.

I’m not an oasis fan eiher but it’d be fun to watch a couple of tracks caned out of your mind in the sunshine and pretend it was The Before Times.

I've got respect for Oasis coming back because Noel Gallagher has been perfectly honest that it's just for the money after his divorce, and I don't think they'll be recording anything new or continuing. I'm looking forward to seeing them live just so I can sing along and pretend it's 1996 and forget the world, just for a few hours.
 
Re: English people won't do certain jobs. It's kinda nonsense really to say so. Sure they won't do them in our economic system that has been undermined and gutted by Neoliberal mass immigration of darkies.
i won't defend hiring illegals but it's a drip down problem from the super markets. They low ball farmers on everything and if the farmer says it's worth more than they will point out food has an expiry date and they can take it or get nothing when it rots. Food has got to increase in price if you want natives to work those jobs. You can't have 5 super markets all low balling everything and telling the farmer to sell their goods at below cost. Which is happening constantly. Milk farmers have been struggling to make a profit for years. The local shops selling local food have been replaced with super markets bigger than most hospitals and people keep going to them for the low prices.

One way our economy suffers greatly and our culture is the side streets are all brown now. You used to see crystal shops, independent clothes stores, Computer game stores not called Game / Sports direct, butchers and green grocers. They had higher quality products than the super market and more informed owners. They would be proper little hubs and now it's all brown. Pawn shops, Phone repair shops, Turkish barbers. é€éúúíúóááó€€é€úé SUPER MARKET and 5 take aways next to each other. The foot traffic on those streets make you keep your hand on your wallet while you walk past more illegally parked vans dropping off god knows what to obvious drug fronts. To town needs 5 phone repair shops and 3 of them on the same street makes no sense. I tried to get a phone repaired recently and it was 3/4ths the cost of a new one. Unless you have something you must get off your phone it's not worth repairing them. So how do you run 3 shops on top of each other and make rent? You don't. And no native wants to open a shop on paki street.
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I don't understand the Gregg meme. I don't visit places like Greggs, Costa or Subway. They are alien to me. I would rather go to a local bakery and buy from them. I don't like that our fast food industry has turned into American style coffee shops and sub par sausage rolls are made out to be a glorious representation of our culture. Our cafe culture is a greasy spoon, a lonely old man reading the paper and it pissing down outside while you wait for your too hot to drink tea to cool
Funnily enough, want to know the best place to find 99.99% white British people in a social setting? Practically any metal gig.
Sorry, I meant straight people. Not men with long hair and eye liner. Do you have to get tickets on Grindr or do you get them at the HIV test thing?

But to be honest, it's a same with a lot of the bands from the 80s and the 90s. Ride are one of my all time favourite bands, and their comeback tour was incredible, but everything they've released after their reunion in 2015 has been terrible, aside from two or three tracks. Same with Slowdive, amazing comeback tour, almost everything they recorded afterwards was garbage. Blur's last album in 2023 should never have been recorded. I think the only Britpop band that came back and sounded decent was fucking Sleeper of all things.
Brit pop was always about the youth and their twee life experiences. It told stories of Britain before the collapse and now they're gone. So it's a posh wanker pretending he's young again.
 
Milk farmers have been struggling to make a profit for years.
Illegals are too expensive for milk farming, prisoners on a placement program are cheaper...

Totally agree about farming prices and supermarkets. As we import more and more with farms getting turned into solar panels and housing developments we will eventually hit a point where the other countries we depend on to import food suddenly jack the prices sky high or have huge export tariffs and the prices end up higher than if we just raised them and paid our own farmers.
 
Illegals are too expensive for milk farming, prisoners on a placement program are cheaper...

Totally agree about farming prices and supermarkets. As we import more and more with farms getting turned into solar panels and housing developments we will eventually hit a point where the other countries we depend on to import food suddenly jack the prices sky high or have huge export tariffs and the prices end up higher than if we just raised them and paid our own farmers.
Prisons should be running their own farms. It gives the prisoners outside time, healthy ways to burn off energy and lowers the cost of feeding them. You can't do it with a prison full of muslims trying to kill each other though. They will use the tools to go on a killing spree.
 
Prisons should be running their own farms. It gives the prisoners outside time, healthy ways to burn off energy and lowers the cost of feeding them. You can't do it with a prison full of muslims trying to kill each other though. They will use the tools to go on a killing spree.
In theory yes but in practice our supermarkets and things just decide that all farmers now need to meet the token prison wage for milk and what was a good work program has with it trashed the other 90% of the market. If the prison milk things paid decent money it would drive prices up rather than down but I'm yet to see a government program that is aware of it's own disruptive nature.

Just look at poundland, before the pandemic as they had free staff rapidly expanding opening loads of stores and taking over high streets.

And now all that has ended the business isn't as viable anymore so poundland has sold for £1 and they are doing the typical asset stripping close down of stores.

On some level that disruptive free staff costs likely contributed to screwing over rivals like Wilko and Woolworths.
 
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I absolutely hate the attitude of the people that asked you the question about working below your skillset. This is a real bête noire of mine. The entirely condescending nature of that question, it's derogatory tone, the attitude behind it. So it's better to do nothing, contribute nothing to society and pay no taxes, than it is to do an honest day's work, make a contribution and pay taxes ?
It’s like people sniffy at someone doing a load of temp jobs whilst at the same time hiring short term temps.

There’s people who think they’ve got some sort of weird scientific approach to hiring when they’re just repeating stuff someone told them stuff that was told to someone else back in 1982 when we had a completely different job market.
 
Funnily enough, want to know the best place to find 99.99% white British people in a social setting? Practically any metal gig.

It's hilarious, I'll go to Glasgow and be surrounded by white people, I'll go to Manchester and be surrounded by white people, I'll go to Birmingham (!!!!!) and be surrounded by white people, Metal music is pretty much the biggest nigger filter I've ever seen and it's always fucking hilarious seeing the nogs at the door giving everyone an extensive pat down as if we're actually going to chimp out.

I've made it my goal to go to as many metal and punk gigs as I can simply because the vibe is something else. No fear of being Ariana Grande'd, no fear of being stabbed and no fear of getting pickpocketed. It's like going back 30 years into a high trust society again.
Just a heads up, hiking isn’t now. Plenty of pajeets.
There is a river crossing made of stones somewhere in the midlands that’s basically a no go area at the weekends now because of them.
 
I'm not sure I want a high street of nothing but poundlands or charity shops for that matter. They're shops for middle age women to buy sponges and useless crap from. Maybe an old lead painted marvel toy for the grand kids.

The countryside is getting very brown. The BBC have made it their job to promote it to browns as hard as they can. The corner shops get bought up, they move 10 of them in and then all their family comes from the local town or city "for the weekend". You notice there's graffiti appearing and more littering. Few weeks back I was so sick of the litter I took a pointy stick and a rubbish bag around the local area. Every hedge is full of fast food wrappers.
 
The interviewers should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. If I was interviewing you, I would have seen the fact that you chose to be busy and not be a burden on a society, but still be a net contributor as a massive positive statement about your character.

Yeah I didn't actually want to work at that place anyway.
They're fine with anything that just directly follows a procedure ( surely this will all be replaced by AI soon - pajeet unemployment, that would be a shame ) but anything that has nuance, some sort of decision that requires responsibility or actually comprehending a stake holder's request, they fall woefully short. I took great delight in sharing this feedback with our "leaders" recently.
Thats pretty much it, work has a fancy license for OpenAI so any data chugging I can get the LLM to do it pretty well.
 
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Every hedge is full of fast food wrappers.
Once that level of littering sets in, it becomes infectious. Everyone who might previously have used the bins begins to just discard waste, because they see little point in trying to keep clean when nobody else does. Pushing back against it can take a long time and a lot of effort.
 
The countryside is getting very brown. The BBC have made it their job to promote it to browns as hard as they can. The corner shops get bought up, they move 10 of them in and then all their family comes from the local town or city "for the weekend". You notice there's graffiti appearing and more littering. Few weeks back I was so sick of the litter I took a pointy stick and a rubbish bag around the local area. Every hedge is full of fast food wrappers.
Aw man, don't tell me the Welsh village with the overly long name is also overrun with shitskins these days :(
 
I'm sorry, I know I brought up the weather earlier but it wouldn't be British without discussing it. Has anybody else seen any sign of this mythical heat wave? The BBC have been running headlines about it for the past couple of days but British weather seems to be its usual miserable self across most of the country.

I feel like the BBC are trying to gaslight us. And don't talk to me about next week 'cause it looks bloody miserable for most of that as well.
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I'm sorry, I know I brought up the weather earlier but it wouldn't be British without discussing it. Has anybody else seen any sign of this mythical heat wave?
It's getting pretty warm around my way About 24° at the moment, but incredibly windy and cloudy. Expected to be over 26 on monday, though I reckon it won't actually get that high. The extreme temperatures the BBC always goes on about are usually found near airports or city centres (or "modelled" at sites that no longer exist), so you shouldn't expect anything close to that anywhere outside the M25.
 
i won't defend hiring illegals but it's a drip down problem from the super markets. They low ball farmers on everything and if the farmer says it's worth more than they will point out food has an expiry date and they can take it or get nothing when it rots. Food has got to increase in price if you want natives to work those jobs. You can't have 5 super markets all low balling everything and telling the farmer to sell their goods at below cost. Which is happening constantly. Milk farmers have been struggling to make a profit for years. The local shops selling local food have been replaced with super markets bigger than most hospitals and people keep going to them for the low prices.
One way our economy suffers greatly and our culture is the side streets are all brown now. You used to see crystal shops, independent clothes stores, Computer game stores not called Game / Sports direct, butchers and green grocers. They had higher quality products than the super market and more informed owners. They would be proper little hubs and now it's all brown. Pawn shops, Phone repair shops, Turkish barbers. é€éúúíúóááó€€é€úé SUPER MARKET and 5 take aways next to each other. The foot traffic on those streets make you keep your hand on your wallet while you walk past more illegally parked vans dropping off god knows what to obvious drug fronts. To town needs 5 phone repair shops and 3 of them on the same street makes no sense. I tried to get a phone repaired recently and it was 3/4ths the cost of a new one. Unless you have something you must get off your phone it's not worth repairing them. So how do you run 3 shops on top of each other and make rent? You don't. And no native wants to open a shop on paki street.
I agree a lot with this. The oversaturation of super markets yet only a relative few chains effectively means they've all set the baseline for the price of goods and none will is more attractive than the other for farmers when it comes to who they sell to. Even if the farmers try to cut out the middle man and sell directly to people, the amount of regulation that applies to them selling their goods specifically to the general public is a bit absurd.

I don't think we necessarily need to increase the price of food at a supermarket level just to help farmers, but I think the measures necessary to help them nationally will see it bump as a temporary consequence but they'd be better off long-term for it.

One fix we need is to enable/aid farmers with selling off their produce outside the UK, because right now they're stuck selling domestically. Meanwhile the EU is able to flood our market with their produce and we can't do the same because they regard us as being Congo-tier when it comes to how we handle and harvest produce so they slap a fat nasty cost on top to inspect it essentially eliminating any potential profit. So UK farmers are forced to compete with the EU, but the EU prices us out of being competitive, trapping all we produce to the island. In theory this would force UK supermarkets to compete with EU supermarkets for our produce and hopefully get our farmers paid. It's like the comparison I brought up before regarding the free market and China: we're on fundamentally mismatched and uneven grounds and nobody seems to have the balls to level the playing field. We'd rather fuck over our farmers to placate the EU, which essentially amounts to France and Germany - the former an on-the-brink shithole whose lead by a man with delusions of grandeur and the latter so foppish about being PC I'm required to remind everything that Hitler was Austrian.

Ironically after how shit the India deal was, Starmer's deals with the US and the EU might help our farmers out, though they both have massive asterisks. The EU one gave them access to our fishing waters in near perpetuity and re-applying borderless travel to Gibraltar from Spain, and is responsible for the "1 in, 1 out" deal we've put in place with France. The American one lets them export beef into our market up to 20k tons tariff-free, though this goes for our beef producers as well so it evens out. (The American deal is probably the one good thing Starmer has done, it's fine to admit that.)

Alternatively we could pull an EU and make imports more restrictive to make domestic look far more attractive. We already do this with meat, which is why the big fast food chains will always advertise their burgers being made with British beef, but they won't reveal their fries are made with far cheaper imported potatoes; it's more expensive to import foreign beef than it is domestically butchered beef so they're trying to make virtue out of saving money. This would definitely bump up the cost of food though if implemented without being able to export abroad. This might make super market chains hurt, forced to prioritise domestic producers for the best costs but also forced to pay more for local farmers.

You're right in everything being brown now. The complete lack of store diversity has murdered competitive pricing dead and it affects both the consumer and the food producer by depriving the former of choice and the latter of a larger market. These fronts are, I'm convinced, a means to keep people in the country on work visas whilst actually as much as they gone to avoid actually receiving any customers. They don't add value to the country, they help them in stealing from it.

I'm sure kicking out 10 million people will fix both of the issues above... somehow.

And even if it doesn't, it'd make me feel better.
I'm sorry, I know I brought up the weather earlier but it wouldn't be British without discussing it. Has anybody else seen any sign of this mythical heat wave? The BBC have been running headlines about it for the past couple of days but British weather seems to be its usual miserable self across most of the country.

I feel like the BBC are trying to gaslight us. And don't talk to me about next week 'cause it looks bloody miserable for most of that as well.
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It's been a bit balmy. Like, I'll go to bed alright but wake up feeling overly warm but that's about it. The most sun I remember getting was in May, but June has been rather morose so far in comparison. It feels like free heating but that's about it.
 
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