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I get your annoyance at the Kirsche posting, but this isn't true anymore. A head editor for Vice literally called gamergate 2: Vtuber Boogaloo. If you had said this yesterday I'd have agreed with you, but I can't anymore.
I dont fucking care. Obviously people do and want to talk about it but its gotten out of hand there's already a thread for her, hell you can make a 2nd one specifically for this drama. Its ruining the general thread.
 
I get your annoyance at the Kirsche posting, but this isn't true anymore. A head editor for Vice literally called gamergate 2: Vtuber Boogaloo. If you had said this yesterday I'd have agreed with you, but I can't anymore.
Begun, the Troon wars has.
It seems like it has a lot less impact, but I get the feeling they're going to continue to ramp up the retardation.
 
I get your annoyance at the Kirsche posting, but this isn't true anymore. A head editor for Vice literally called gamergate 2: Vtuber Boogaloo. If you had said this yesterday I'd have agreed with you, but I can't anymore.
it should go in the kirsche thread so that people who care will read the kirsche and give meaning to this board. because boards only live with active threads.
 
DISCLAIMER: I apparently never hit send on this following message when I wrote it up a few days ago. Saw some stuff in another few threads this morning that reminded me of the rambly ass shit I wrote while half awake and then I noticed it wasn't in my post history. I am once again running on a full day of no sleep when deciding to hit send and am too tired to check if things are still 100% up to date with the progression of things.
presu undastand the spelgely is intense. :ow:


I just have to tune out shit whenever people get posessed by the skinwalker shit and start doing weird stale predictable reddit smarm shit about Vtubers in random fucking threads or places man. I can only take the "MMMMM LOOK HOW MAD YOU ARE!!!! I BET YOU SUPPORT VTUMORS VGOONER!" after other people are like "dude what the fuck is happening" when someone starts shitting up a thread with the gayest ragepig shit ever. There is a cliquey ass aspect to it and I don't want to be a fucking gay ass little bitch reporting posts en masse so I'm just going to vent about it int he fucking vtuber meta thread since that's really the only place something like this would fit. I guess the only other place would be the "has the farms changed" thread or whatever, but this is a really specific topic that'd work in this kinda inactive pinned thread due to the fact it's now bleeding into the vtuber subforum despite it explicitly being stated not to do that shit. I don't really follow vtubers closely, but I do check these threads on occasion after the thing was made a few months back because I get around on here even if I don't frequently post due to being dead tired thanks to a mix of nocturnal nature and thus shit sleep pattern where I end up having to stay up for 2 or 3 days sometimes.

The rot started in balldoverse/sektur slapfight regions before this subforum even existed and put me off even checking a lot of threads I found fun and now it's just fucking everywhere like a year or so later. I've noticed checking the threads in here on occasion that it's spread to here. SO many fucking threads now are fucking unreadable because it's just become nothing but circlejerks about "vtubers bad" even if it's not even a fucking topic about any of these people. Shit was a bit funny at the start when it was clearly a bit of some sort, but now it's become some weird fucking mantra shit that butts in like the reddit people randomly going off about donald trump or shit or bringing up tranny shit where it has no fucking place. @Cats is fucking dead, a bunch of other guys are either gone or compromised, and the places I go to have fun are all just pissy no fun allowed zones unless your "fun" is being fucking constantly raging with a holier than thou attitude about whatever fucking topic of choice.

As someone who's mental survival is tied to shitpost humor it bugs the fuck out of me that people managed to make the fucking act of hating anime unfunny.
 
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SO many fucking threads now are fucking unreadable because it's just become nothing but circlejerks about "vtubers bad" even if it's not even a fucking topic about any of these people.
I feel you on the rant, shitting up threads is pretty boring, but I think your take is a bit too doomer. For the most part the vtuber threads don't get derailed, the Kirsche thread is an anomaly because she's been in drama for the past 2 months straight and this is just the outcome of that.
 
There is an unfortunate case of Anime Derangement Syndrome that overtakes the forum whenever something vtuber-related comes up in an on-topic board, and it's annoying just how badly it fubars the thread it happens in. The Metokur thread has been an absolute shitshow ever since the Kirsche stream happened; retards have been showing up solely to jerk themselves off about how anyone within six degrees of separation from a vtuber is basically Epstein, to the point Josh had to come in and tell people to stop calling Jim a paedophile without proof.

I don't care if people think anime shit is creepy, that's their prerogative, but the way it's discussed most of the time feels less like a conversation and more like Twitter-style "I agree with the popular opinion, please like and retweet" attention-whoring.
 
There is an unfortunate case of Anime Derangement Syndrome that overtakes the forum whenever something vtuber-related comes up in an on-topic board, and it's annoying just how badly it fubars the thread it happens in. The Metokur thread has been an absolute shitshow ever since the Kirsche stream happened; retards have been showing up solely to jerk themselves off about how anyone within six degrees of separation from a vtuber is basically Epstein, to the point Josh had to come in and tell people to stop calling Jim a paedophile without proof.

I don't care if people think anime shit is creepy, that's their prerogative, but the way it's discussed most of the time feels less like a conversation and more like Twitter-style "I agree with the popular opinion, please like and retweet" attention-whoring.
it's getting worse because every fucking time threads getting shat up it gets framed as the vtuber people starting shit after the fact WHEN I CAN LOOK AT THE THREAD HISTORY AND SEE SHIT HAPPEN LIVE. Even after shit gets moderated and cleaned up it starts back up again with tharrative shifting to it being some shit about the vtuber people. And then it starts up AGAIN.

The people that keep going "oooo kf is just green reddit oooo" shit on both sides of this bullshit are doing their damndest to behave like actual fucking reddit people despite their criticisms. It makes me feel like i'm gonna go fucking postal looking at all the threads that keep devolving into this cycle. I'm at the point where nearly everywhere I go both online and offline I gotta tune the skinwalker mantra shit out. Like I'm not talking like "inhuman forest creature" skinwlker. I'm talking a figurative term based on the actual "witch that possesses people to try and stir discontent and infighting" myth because that's how it feels when people suddenly switch to this behavior out of nowhere and just completely derail unrelated shit with this. There's other variants of topics this occurs with that aren't the vtuber one too but once again this is the most recent shit (aside from the smug-pissy posting about people dying) and unlike the others it was allowed to get this bad because it's anime pfp streamer people bullshit.
 
t's getting worse because every fucking time threads getting shat up it gets framed as the vtuber people starting shit after the fact WHEN I CAN LOOK AT THE THREAD HISTORY AND SEE SHIT HAPPEN LIVE.
No one has ever talked about me being in VT threads.
I suggest a Sopranos PFP may be because your PFP is anime they just assume and go lookin.

Here's a few suggestions:



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No one has ever talked about me being in VT threads.
I suggest a Sopranos PFP may be because your PFP is anime they just assume and go lookin.

Here's a few suggestions:



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My PFP right now is a reference to something that happened in threads on here and a running theme spawned by another thread. I use the latter as a way to easily have something I can draw when I want to think up a new pfp. May do a rotoscoped tony one sometime though because I'm getting visual ideas for it.

...or I could just infect your tony with my disease.
 
The idea of the board is that places like /vt/ and Proctor's Asylum exist and have a very loli-leaning bend to it. There should therefore be a place where people who don't want to be around lolicons to talk. Since Sabu's debut is the largest thing that's happened in their industry for a long time I compared the activity of the two boards to see how it measures up, since it's largely the same group of people anyways.

In short, Proctor's site generated about 20 pages of discussion for the debut and the forum generated a smattering of posts between two threads. The reason for this is obvious: the model is probably the most loli of any professional character in the industry. Even Shondo and Kiki Pyon Pyon don't have midriff and feet. She also seems to have associated her audience with crabs specifically because the Japanese word for crab "kani" sounds similar to "cunny". I'd say that is maybe a little too schizo, except there is agreement between /vt/ and the Asylum this was done intentionally, and there are already lolicon memes about crabs.

I do find it funny that on other vtuber sites I have a known reputation as a villain, like there is an anthropomorphized caricature of "anti-vtuber" and "anti-loli" that takes the shape of me, and therefore any time a lolicon vtuber makes money or is successful it is a blow against this villain character that my face is taped onto. If Metokur talks to Kirsche this is a blow against the great evil. How I actually react is irrelevant. When you're an Internet personality you develop a character that is how the public perceives you, which is disassociated with you as a person. It's kind of like how I've tried to make Jason Hall the face of anti-gamers for the purpose of getting more signatures for the SKG petition. If he actually cares or not about the petition passing is irrelevant to the fun of making him the antagonist for the cause. The real surprise is how many people know who I am now and how often I come up outside of my bubble.

My VTuber experiment really informs me as to why progressive ideology has won every serious battle for the last 80 years. If you make a club with a barrier to entry, it will not do as well as a club open to everyone, and when the product of a website is discussion, the place with more people will generally always win. The Asylum is slower than /vt/ so I'd wager most of them also crosspost to /vt/ a lot. If I similarly tried to make an Anime board for SFW anime only, it would be a very, very small board. The medium is just very sexual and it is very cozy with lolicon. That is why it's so hard for people lie Metokur or Kirsche to even performantively care. They might yield when pressed and say "that's bad", but when surrounded by the comfort of their fans after the moralfags go away, there's less than zero pressure to continue that facade.

Meanwhile on the Kiwi Farms, there are enough people outside of anime who don't have to performatively dislike such things, which is why there is an 'uncomfy' pressure that they complain about on the Asylum. Just today we had a drama where a user was using an avatar of a character that is canonically a prostitute with a physical age of 13 and a 'mental age' of 24 on her bio. The character wasn't even a lolicon but to ordinary people outside of the anime bubble this is fucking weird. To the user it's just a very popular waifu character from a popular anime game. This is the rift between the rest of the site and these users and why they do not want to post here.

My issue is not with drawings. It is that exposure conditions the brain to accept the abnormal and unhealthy as ordinary.
 
I don’t really think of it as “normal”, just “the internet”. As for the whole loli thing, I don’t take any real issue with it or think that “loli=pedo”, but I’m also not gonna blame anyone for making that assumption if the person is weirdly obsessed with loli crap in general.

Not all people into loli are pedos, but all pedos are probably into loli, essentially.
 
I do find it funny that on other vtuber sites I have a known reputation as a villain
The reason they regard you as a villain is because they are godless pedophiles who get active arousal in suggesting others are corrupt, much like a Ralph or even a Gym as he sneeds, or a Rekieta. They seek to say you are just as bad as them to continue justifying their attraction to children.
 
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