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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Hahahahahahaha. Oh no, if it isn't the consequences of my actions!
>"It is completely inappropriate. It undermines the legitimacy of religious institutions in this country if representatives think it is acceptable to try to coerce Members of Parliament."
It is entirely legitimate, that if you want to benefit in the secular world from the whole "good christian" schtick, that you've gotta live up to it too., can't have it both ways you silly libdem goose.
I'm not sure the Bible makes clear what someone ought to do if they exist both as as not in government but also apart of it.
Submit to Government
13 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will [a]bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. 7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.
Romans 13: 1-7

It tracks then if you are the government (MP or King) then you ought to abide by God's rulings (commandments, direct statements from God in the Bible or the apostles/prophets within it), which strongly pushes for the advocacy of no-association with non-Christians (Matthew 10:14) and the murder of heretics/destruction of Heathen idols/monuments (Deuteronomy and Leviticus), which Muslims both fulfil the criteria of being both the followers of a "false prophet and dreamer" (Muhammed) I.E. Heresy, or a non-Christian faith/non-derivative that refuses to convert. At a bare minimum Christians ought to be anti-immigration, however this line of thinking also fuels a lot of the civnat rhetoric I.E. "Muslims from Pakistan = bad, but Christians from Africa = good".
 
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Some lunchtime news from GB News:

A slap in the face for Yvette Cooper:

Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/cjhh4

Ricky Gervais brilliant response to Kneecap and Bob Vylan:

Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/ePObr

'Barefaced lie!' GB News' Alex Armstrong erupts over Covid care home scandal: 'No wonder the public has lost trust!':

Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/7YnYz

Benefits fraudster managed to get away with stealing from DWP for two decades before finally being caught:

Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/2TyIJ

Plus, from Wales Online, Louis Rees-Zammit brilliantly takes down critics over 'wrong flag' photo:

Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/Ukuqg
 
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Birnberg Peirce submitted the claim on behalf of Huda Ammori, a 31-year-old of Palestinian and Iraqi heritage, and a co-founder of Palestine Action.

If they deport him, they don't need to argue about it in court.
 
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Benefits fraudster managed to get away with stealing from DWP for two decades before finally being caught:

https://www.gbnews.com/news/benefits-fraudster-dwp-caught-northern-ireland-omagh Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/2TyIJ
18 month sentence for a man who ran 5 different benefit scams. Even if he only ran each one on it's own he was scamming 30 grand a year off of all the stuff he was getting. 18 months for half a million stolen seems like a slap on the wrist.
 
It tracks then if you are the government (MP or King) then you ought to abide by God's rulings (commandments, direct statements from God in the Bible or the apostles/prophets within it), which strongly pushes for the advocacy of no-association with non-Christians (Matthew 10:14) and the murder of heretics/destruction of Heathen idols/monuments (Deuteronomy and Leviticus), which Muslims both fulfil the criteria of being both the followers of a "false prophet and dreamer" (Muhammed) I.E. Heresy, or a non-Christian faith/non-derivative that refuses to convert. At a bare minimum Christians ought to be anti-immigration, however this line of thinking also fuels a lot of the civnat rhetoric I.E. "Muslims from Pakistan = bad, but Christians from Africa = good".
Yeah there's all sorts of rules and regulations, but it's the basic premise of the matter that gets me The "cultural Christian" types who are all for total separation but who gets all miffed when excluded on the basis of being blatantly non-Christian. There's some (Gnostic) precedent for the sacrament of endura but that's not how the small C christfags justify themselves is it, it's all about doing what right aka what they want not about what the rules are.
These people are hollow simulacra, they're not bothered at all by this; what pisses them off is being called out for it, they are simply not human.
 
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I do wonder if that's maybe because of our drinking age. I hate to be a 'The USA has redeemable and good features' guy; but the drinking age of 21 in bars and pubs; does give them a softer and more relaxed night out culture. I would do Rugby socials at university and I'd get through a £40 bottle of jameson every single night we had one. I wasn't even one of the crazy ones either. America doesn't seem to have it as bad.
America's higher drinking age causes its own problems.

The simple fact is this: The English have always been a nation of brawling drunkards. Popular and populist movements might try to sanitise that history, leaning heavily on the bowdlerised depictions of the noble, morally upstanding, stiff-upper-lipped, hard-working lower class men of yore, so popularised by the burgeoning mass media of the early 20th century, but the reality is that the peoples of the British isles have had this reputation for the better part of two thousand years. Deservedly so.

The problem, as I see it, is that the traditional outlets for all that competition and alcoholism have disappeared. There used to be any number of occupational drinking places, where men (and perhaps women) of a similar class and character could get drunk together, out of the public eye, with a sense of common identity and community mitigating most of their worst excesses. Aside from that, every village and every other street would have its own pub, where most everyone knew most everyone else. Certainly there were dive bars, because there's always going to be places that are objectively shit, but even those were small and tucked away and had their own form of community, however degraded. There was never an opportunity for the mass drunken gatherings that are found in modern cities, because people were too spread out to too many locations for it to happen. All we have now are overcrowded bars and clubs in centralised locations, without any sense of community or any natural limits on excess.
 
A lot of that comes from there being no real value in being alive to those people other wise. They live for the weekend and get off their face when it arrives. I don't get it myself. I
Because they don't see a future. All the things you'd consider worth living for outside of hedonism are about building a better life, family, country. And many young people growing up no longer believe in career, no longer believe in family and see the country as unfixable. Hedonism Not Hope, to parody a certain unlikeable charity.
 
The problem, as I see it, is that the traditional outlets for all that competition and alcoholism have disappeared. There used to be any number of occupational drinking places, where men (and perhaps women) of a similar class and character could get drunk together, out of the public eye, with a sense of common identity and community mitigating most of their worst excesses.
That community did a lot to safe guard from the excess of drinking and if if did happen you could trust someone to get them home. The barman knew who would cause trouble and he probably knew your limits and nudged you away from them. There's none of that today and hasn't been for a long time. People get pissed before they go out to start drinking.
Because they don't see a future. All the things you'd consider worth living for outside of hedonism are about building a better life, family, country. And many young people growing up no longer believe in career, no longer believe in family and see the country as unfixable. Hedonism Not Hope, to parody a certain unlikeable charity.
I agree with you there, I tried to get people to talk about what they thought was a path through this mess a few posts back. Lift up the doom and gloom a bit. I would say this life style is also helping to cause those problems. Spending your prime years dossing around and getting shit faced isn't going to get you a family.

There's a lot of villages holding Party in the park right now. They're full of white people and loads of families. It's really wholesome to see and a small slice of the past. We need more of those and for people to really put the effort in to meet each other and get the life long family connections that make young families happen.
 
No one believes "I just want to get drunk and dance with my friends!", not even your Dad did. We've all been there and we've seen what those girls do once they think they're not been watched. The state of relationships is completely fucked and it has got to change if we want to have a proper society. The 1950s larp does say we need to protect our women and we do need to protect them. Teenagers do stupid stuff and parents need to start raising their kids properly. Modern Britain looks like a brothel, it acts like a brothel, it stinks and all the women you see are dressed as skimpy as possible and flashing camel toe.
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Yeah but that is probably designer high end meth and not some random shit cooked up by another addict.
The shit the bumboys boof into each other isn't that classy either, half of them are sucking dick for rent anyway, you think they care that much about clean needles?
Sir I must ask for a hand picture .
Stop stealing my bit.
 
What have people's experiences been of the paki groomer report aftermath? Much said? I've heard next to nothing.
My work colleagues - since I work in a lab with a lot of younger (under 30's) people, have not mentioned a peep and will not discuss it. Ironically we do have a brownoid sex pest that everyone knows to avoid even as he invites everyone, every weekend to his weird basement for parties. My mother has horrified at it, but she was 'redpilled' to the whole thing years ago since she runs a womens shelter. She's mostly despondent and thinks nothing will change.
 
It has been my experience that the majority of habitual weed smokers stink of the stuff (more so if they smoke skunk).

Very few people who are very regular drinkers stink of booze. In fact, many functioning alcoholics go to some lengths to avoid smelling of alcohol.
 
I :like: the keywords being fed into the predictive programming today, activation phrase: islamist far-left.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/britain-threat-islamic-terrorists-b9t2gzm5h/https://archive.is/xYwM4
Britain faces an “enormous and ongoing threat” from Islamic terrorists, a former Labour home secretary has warned.
Lord Blunkett said the October 7, 2023 attacks by Hamas and the subsequent war in Gaza had instilled a growing and “disturbing” level of hatred against Jewish people in the UK that is being enabled to fester by Islamic extremists.
He made the comments in a foreword to a major report by the Counter Extremism Group that exposes the rising threat of antisemitism fuelled by Islamic extremists in the UK.


The 94-page report accuses the government’s counterterrorism officials of a “widespread failure to recognise the extensive recent history of antisemitic incidents involving Islamists in the UK”.
It highlights how speakers in certain mosques have promoted the idea that Allah is pleased by the killing of Jews and have led prayers for the mujahideen — those who engage in jihad, without directly naming Hamas.

They have also promoted conspiracy theories about the October 7 attacks.

The report is authored by Daniel Allington, a reader in social analytics at King’s College London, for the Counter Extremism Group, a think tank providing non-partisan research, commentary and policy on all forms of extremism which was previously led by Robin Simcox, the government’s counterextremism commissioner.
The study, which began in September 2023 but was shaped by the October 7 attacks and their aftermath, warns that Islamic extremists in the UK are using the war in Gaza as a recruiting sergeant. Islamists are attempting to build coalitions with organisations on the far left across the West, it added.


The war in Gaza is providing Islamists with “greater opportunities for organisation”, the report said, because Islamist radicalisation “depends upon grievance narratives”.
Those relating to the historic Israeli-Palestinian conflict hold “pride of place” and the periodic escalations in the ongoing war between Hamas and Israel offer opportunities to boost support for extremist narratives to flourish, Allington said.

However, the explicit goal of Islamists is the establishment of a theocratic empire built on the principle of Islamic religious supremacy, the report added.
Allington calls for greater awareness of Islamist antisemitism in the UK, a key recommendation in the independent review of Prevent, the government’s counterextremism strategy, which called for counterterrorism officials to address the anti-Jewish component of both Islamist and extreme right-wing ideology.
He said: “Too often, antisemitism is identified exclusively as a characteristic of right-wing extremism in the white British population, which may create a false impression of the threat landscape faced by the Jewish community in the UK.”


Allington said that despite the many antisemitic incidents that were reported in the media, policymakers had “not viewed them comprehensively, nor as a distinct phenomenon”.
In a foreword to the report, Blunkett said it was “unforgivable” for anyone to use the actions of the Israeli state as an “excuse for antisemitism”.
The report recommends that all British institutions responsible for countering extremism should develop “a far better understanding of Islamist antisemitism and its role in radicalisation to violence”. This would better enable practitioners and the policy community to tackle this “pernicious and powerful complement of extremism”.


Blunkett, who served as home secretary at the time of the September 11 terror attacks, said the threat of Islamic extremism globally had returned to a similar scale and nature as 25 years ago and said the report was vital in order to understand the nature of the Islamist threat in the UK.
He wrote: “24 years later, the Taliban, who had been removed by international intervention in Afghanistan, are back in charge of that country. Divisions and conflict in the Middle East are commanding the attention of the world for all the wrong reasons.
“So, whilst it might seem counterintuitive to publish a report concentrating on Islamic terrorism, the truth is that understanding the enormous and ongoing threat to our wellbeing, as Tony Blair did in his Chicago speech of 1999, requires both analysis and ongoing vigilance.”
He added: “Chronicling the genuine danger of allowing antisemitism to emerge wherever and whenever the historic roots of hatred show themselves is a valuable contribution to warnings for the future by reflecting on the past.”
Yvette Cooper, the home secretary, said: “As we approach the 20th anniversary of the 7/7 attacks, we must be clear about the persistent threat from Islamist extremism, here and across the globe. The world may have changed since then, and new dangers may have emerged, but Islamist extremism remains the highest terrorism threat assessed by our security and intelligence agencies in the UK that they work continually to counteract. Be it home-grown extremism and radicalisation or threats promoted from abroad, we must remain vigilant to the risks posed by the warped and dangerous ideology of Islamist extremism and never allow it to spread antisemitism or hatred towards any nation, religion, or group.
“The UK has some of the strongest laws in the world to protect our citizens from terrorism. We continue to work closely with partners and across government to address the threat and respond to the evolving nature of extremism and terrorism in the United Kingdom, ensuring we have the necessary tools and powers to keep people safe.”
The powers that be might try and sidestep the paki problem by starting a red scare? I could see it.
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>teatowls lol
 
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Sir I must ask for a hand picture .
Having standards and thinking it's bad for women to dress like prostitutes makes me brown? Is that how bad the country has become where suggesting we don't act like scum is offensive to you?
Bobby Vylan not ony get dropped by their talent (ha ha ha) agency but now have their US visas withdrawn.
Can we send them to Rwanda? People need to make as much stink as possible. Pester Ofcom and all the other busy bodies.
 
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