Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Internet-Based Lobotomy]

Exhaust all your options and be in it for the long haul. separating your emotions from the outcome is a powerful skill a lot of people need to master.

There's a reason the hopium tanks have run dry and a lot of guys aren't really huffing copium anymore. "It is what it is." I think if anything you would advise people to refrain from being apathetic. Optimism is (at least for a lot of people) gone and apathy leads to people not thinking they can make any reasonable change.

Badspeak pretty much summed it up but for the "fuck up of the release of the Epstein docs" I am genuinely curious how that actually had zero effect on the people. Like your government not only fails to deliver on this promise but they Rick Roll you? The prolific pedophile trafficking information is "released" and it's just a Rick Roll. I think it's 100% certain that the files weren't released due to just how bad it would be. Also, Iran getting bombed didn't start WW3 but last I checked everyone deployed to the area over there didn't go home yet so who knows what's next in the tax dollars for Israel department. I'll refrain from saying much else since this is the megarad gun thread but I can't really blame anyone for being a bit despondent with the way things have been going (for the past two decades at very least). I thought maybe for once the gun crowd was getting a bone tossed our way but instead they gutted all the good out the BBB and now we're just left with the bad. Say what you will but I think it's only natural to become a bit calloused from getting FUCKED over and over again. When was the last big win for gunners? The lapse of the AWB?

 

[Legato]

This is how I feel about the whole thing:

 

[God's drunkest driver]

People with obscure guns that shoot uncommon ammo be like:

Truly

this is why we reload frens. most cartridges can be made from .30-06 (most military and hunting rounds) or .375 H&H (the belted magnums for the most part).

If only reloading components weren't multiple times the price they were even after sandy hook. Though they have come down a little. Anything I own that fires an unusual cartridge rarely leaves the safe now. Come to think of it, I can't even remember when I last fired my Arisaka.

When was the last big win for gunners? The lapse of the AWB?

From someone old enough to remember that, yes. That was the last big win. We've had a couple of supreme court decisions that ultimately amounted to dick, some states that were already gun friendly went to constitutional carry, and some waffling from the ATF kind of happened in our favor a couple of times, but none of that was really meaningful. Bump stocks, braces and FRTs are ultimately meaningless and may well hurt attempts to do away with the NFA because they raise controversy over nothing. I don't suspect we'll ever see a win as big as the AWB lapse again, just more of the death by a thousand cuts. "It is what it is"

 

[Romulus augustulus]

Truly


If only reloading components weren't multiple times the price they were even after sandy hook. Though they have come down a little. Anything I own that fires an unusual cartridge rarely leaves the safe now. Come to think of it, I can't even remember when I last fired my Arisaka.


From someone old enough to remember that, yes. That was the last big win. We've had a couple of supreme court decisions that ultimately amounted to dick, some states that were already gun friendly went to constitutional carry, and some waffling from the ATF kind of happened in our favor a couple of times, but none of that was really meaningful. Bump stocks, braces and FRTs are ultimately meaningless and may well hurt attempts to do away with the NFA because they raise controversy over nothing. I don't suspect we'll ever see a win as big as the AWB lapse again, just more of the death by a thousand cuts. "It is what it is"

when the AWB was passed CCW and OCW was almost completely illegal in all states, republican or democrat and the public attitude towards carrying was negative.

we have come very far in the last 40 years. very far. if anything, the only thing getting killed by a thousand cuts has been gun control. no new federal gun control has passed in many many years, they've only been able to keep whats already on file.

 

[NeonFlux]

when the AWB was passed CCW and OCW was almost completely illegal in all states, republican or democrat and the public attitude towards carrying was negative.

we have come very far in the last 40 years. very far. if anything, the only thing getting killed by a thousand cuts has been gun control. no new federal gun control has passed in many many years, they've only been able to keep whats already on file.

You also had the explosion in firearms sales during the 2020 riots and the biden admin let all sorts of bullshit happen with illegals/gangs moving into nice areas, creating a lot of new gun owners. (myself included) Cultural wins also help a lot and speed up the needle being pushed.

 

[Burekbossman]

People with obscure guns that shoot uncommon ammo be like:

5.45 isn't that obscure, but because of the cartridge it's hard to reload. I'm just sol cause the two countries that used that it the most are shooting each other.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

5.45 isn't that obscure, but because of the cartridge it's hard to reload. I'm just sol cause the two countries that used that it the most are shooting each other.

idk man, only one gun (and its derivatives) was ever chambered in mass and it was only ever used by a handful of countries (Russia, Ukraine and DPRK), never had market penetration into the west outside former Warsaw pact countries selling overstock. just because there was a lot of it doesn't meat it's not obscure.

its like 8x60mm S. fairly popular historically in Europe but still obscure.

 

[WelperHelper99]

it doesn't make sense at all. .45-70 is a 1,000 yard cartridge.

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Drop don't matter when you can adjust sights to compensate.

45-70 being a 1000 yard round is never not amusing. Wonder if modern electronic aided scopes could compensate for the drop?

So Freedom Ordnance recently announced they're going to start production of their redesigned FM-9 belt-fed 9mm AR. Think of the ARES Shrike/Fitelite MCR, but 9mm. Their old one was just an upper, but the latest one will also offer a complete rifle that can feed from GLOCK mags as well as belts. It will also be compatible with most popular FRTs. I gotta admit, I want it. If they're going to offer uppers along with the complete rifles then I might have to try to get one, if the price isn't too insane. I've got a Lancer AR lower that I still need to build up. This with an FRT would be a helluva lotta fun.

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I now want a belt fed 9mm. That would be beyond fun.

In accordance with the instructions of the President of the Republic,
Commander-in-Chief of the Serbian Armed Forces and Chairman of the National Security Council Aleksandar Vučić, the export of weapons and military equipment produced in the Republic of Serbia is suspended.
In the future, for the export of weapons and military equipment produced in defense industry factories, in addition to the consent of other competent ministries and agencies, the consent of the National Security Council will be mandatory in accordance with Article 16, paragraph 4 of the Law on Export and Import of Weapons and Military Equipment.

https://www.guns.com/news/2025/06/25/prvi-partizan-zastava-problems-serbia-shuts-down-ammo-gun-exports

Apparently they've been supplying ammo to both sides in the Ukraine war and it's become a scandal. Hopefully temporary

Glad I've stocked up on cheapish Belom 7.62x39mm then

What sort of grenades are you thinking? My vision of mobile drone defense is two-tiered: the outer perimeter system finds drones large enough to have a radar signature and attacks them with proximity fuzed grenades. I read about this Northrop Grumman solution a while ago.

The inner perimeter is trickier - it would have to cover small drones not picked up by radar. And without a radar signature, proximity fuzed rounds do not work. I suppose an optical rangefinding system could be coupled with time fuzed rounds? Other than that, a shotgun-like multiple pellet projectile is likely the best option.

Barrett is making a mag fed 30mm grenade launcher precisely for the drone issue btw, VT fuse, all that shit.

 

[Polock]

Barrett is making a mag fed 30mm grenade launcher precisely for the drone issue btw, VT fuse, all that shit.

I would like to thank the 2 week slavic chimpout mud wrestling tournament for making the bolter just a little bit closer to reality.

 

[Seafarer]

when the AWB was passed CCW and OCW was almost completely illegal in all states, republican or democrat and the public attitude towards carrying was negative.

we have come very far in the last 40 years. very far. if anything, the only thing getting killed by a thousand cuts has been gun control. no new federal gun control has passed in many many years, they've only been able to keep whats already on file.

I’ve never understood how people doom the fuck out about gun control when gun control measures have been on the back foot for more than a decade. People forget that at various points before the turn of the century most adults were in favor of a total handgun ban (fucking boomers), now the Democratic Party has to assure its constituents that they “aren’t coming for your handguns” whenever they speak about gun control.

I think there are a multitude of reasons why younger generations are more pro-gun, but I think some of it unironically has to do with video games. The popularity of first-person shooters has led a lot of younger people to get interested in firearms, and while the popularity of the genre has fluctuated FPSs have been a mainstay of the industry. I think part of it is also that when the whole “violent video games” fiasco started a lot of the people and talking points which became mortal enemies of gamers also advocated for or can be applied to gun control.

 

[Internet-Based Lobotomy]

I’ve never understood how people doom the fuck out about gun control when gun control measures have been on the back foot for more than a decade.

Because a few decades ago you were able to order a BAR to your front door step. It's not "all hope is lost" since we've seen the worst of it but that doesn't guarantee it only gets better from here. Case in point the latest situation with the NFA shit. If that went away I'd agree with you, but as it stands we're still historically below where we used to be in terms of freedoms, every restriction is an infringement etc etc.

but I think some of it unironically has to do with video games. The popularity of first-person shooters has led a lot of younger people to get interested in firearms,

I would agree with only my lived experience to back this up. I've seen plenty of guys go from playing vidya with guns to being interested in owning them, especially the more militarized versions. Guys that were only into really hunting aren't going to have tricked out ARs as often unless they are into hog and coyote hunting.

 

[Seafarer]

Because a few decades ago you were able to order a BAR to your front door step. It's not "all hope is lost" since we've seen the worst of it but that doesn't guarantee it only gets better from here. Case in point the latest situation with the NFA shit. If that went away I'd agree with you, but as it stands we're still historically below where we used to be in terms of freedoms, every restriction is an infringement etc etc.

I think you’re looking at this the wrong way. What you are forgetting with this whole congress debacle is that it’s honestly pretty fucking huge that it’s even got as far as it has (and it’s not even over yet might I add). It used to be unheard of for Congress to even think about rescinding gun control measures, let alone ones that directly tackle the NFA, even with Republican controlled Congresses. Being unapologetically pro-gun used to be seen as extremely fringe in Republican circles, now it’s increasingly common. I just don’t see the gun control lobby being anywhere near as powerful as it once was, while the will towards deregulation is getting stronger and stronger. Obviously the fight is far from over, but barring a dramatic change in circumstances I think the future is starting to look good for the 2nd amendment.

I would agree with only my lived experience to back this up. I've seen plenty of guys go from playing vidya with guns to being interested in owning them, especially the more militarized versions. Guys that were only into really hunting aren't going to have tricked out ARs as often unless they are into hog and coyote hunting.

This is another important point I’d like to bring up. A lot of the reason for the dire state the 2nd Amendment has been in for the last century is because a lot of boomers and older generations grew up with this notion of firearms being only a tool for hunting. People who used military-style weapons were seen as fringe nutjobs (despite their use case being more consistent with the actual 2nd Amendment) who were at best begrudgingly supported by the mainstream gun owners, but were always the first to have their interests sacrificed if the gun control lobby needed to be satiated. Nowadays, AR-15s and “tactical” firearms are some of the most common firearms in America, and people who own them are too large of a population to be “othered” in the same way as before. Shifting the public perspective of a gun owner from being some guy who goes out hunting every so often with an inoffensive hunting rifle or shotgun to being someone armed with a variation of a military weapon (albeit a gimped one) and very unapologetic about their right to use said weapon has shifted the public consciousness in a way that will be very problematic for any future gun control measures.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

It used to be unheard of for Congress to even think about rescinding gun control measures, let alone ones that directly tackle the NFA, even with Republican controlled Congresses.

It still is unheard of because they aren't doing the thing.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

Because a few decades ago you were able to order a BAR to your front door step. It's not "all hope is lost" since we've seen the worst of it but that doesn't guarantee it only gets better from here. Case in point the latest situation with the NFA shit. If that went away I'd agree with you, but as it stands we're still historically below where we used to be in terms of freedoms, every restriction is an infringement etc etc.

Pretty much this. Plus import bans and other seemingly small maneuvers have driven up the cost of things a lot. The saving grace for people who want to get into guns is how cheap it now is to get an AR or polymer wonderpistol, which have replaced milsurp as the entry level for low budget gun owners. Used to be you'd buy a shitty SKS for a couple hundred bucks if you wanted to get an entry level semi auto rifle, now you buy a shitty AR for a few hundred bucks and SKS and AKs aren't remotely worth buying because they start in mid range AR territory.

People forget that at various points before the turn of the century most adults were in favor of a total handgun ban (fucking boomers), now the Democratic Party has to assure its constituents that they “aren’t coming for your handguns” whenever they speak about gun control.

If banning handguns was ever on the table it would have been during the passing of the AWB, which was quite popular, not before and not after. The thing we do have on our side is that at least concealed carry is quite popular now, especially with all of the (founded or not) alarmism about crime, so it's unlikely we'll see a nationwide challenge to it in the next couple of decades.

 

[Yours Truly 2095]

If banning handguns was ever on the table it would have been during the passing of the AWB, which was quite popular, not before and not after. The thing we do have on our side is th

Handguns were originally going to be part of the NFA and were taken off I believe at the last second. Ironically I believe if they had added them to the NFA the NFA would fully be dead by now.

 

[ChampFantana]

Barrett is making a mag fed 30mm grenade launcher precisely for the drone issue btw, VT fuse, all that shit.

*Aroused Astartes noises intensify*

 

[DocAwe]

Handguns were originally going to be part of the NFA and were taken off I believe at the last second. Ironically I believe if they had added them to the NFA the NFA would fully be dead by now.

SBR is a loose end leftover from handguns originally being on the NFA.

 

[SAR545]

Politics aside, I went to shoot my AR 70/90 the other day and the sun cooked me raw. Wear sunscreen bros...

 

[Internet-Based Lobotomy]

Politics aside, I went to shoot my AR 70/90 the other day and the sun cooked me raw. Wear sunscreen bros...

You gotta wear a wide brim bush hat or the baseball cap and towel combo. Make it a force of habit and at least your face and neck will be spared.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

This is how I feel about the whole thing:

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I'll say that we've NEVER had a AWB again and even just the $0 "tax" is a win.

That said the fucking spineless bastards on the Senate who gutted suppressors and SBRs from the BBB are cowards.