Megathread Trannies posting their L's Online - Heckin valid people posting their funny misfortunes on the internet

[Dick Johnson]

"I really am starting to feel like it was all just a fetish tbh."
You dont say?
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It's nice that this person gets support for backing away from modifying their body, when they're finding that they might have other factors than diagnosable gender dysphoria.

Oh wait, my mistake, the most upvoted comments are the ones that try to push OP back onto the trans train.



Definitely not cult-like behavior, no sir!

"...women treat me like crap on a consistent basis."
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"I pass, but somehow everyone treats me like they know I'm trans."

 

[SweetieMouse]

What is it about porn that makes people want to troon out?

Spoiler: What It Is

Classical conditioning. I'm sure most of you are familiar with Ivan Pavlov's dog so I'm going to base this explanation on that assumption. To recap, classical conditioning is where a previously neutral stimulus is paired with an unconditioned stimulus (ie. an innate reaction), to produce a conditioned response. In the context of coom, this is works as follows:

the unconditioned stimulus (which naturally triggers a response): the sight of nudity, the sight of an erotic context/setting
the unconditioned response (the automatic reaction to the U.S.): sexual arousal
the conditioned stimulus (initially neutral but becomes associated with the U.S.): the fetish, in this case being transvestitism
conditioned response (learned response to the C.S. after conditioning): sexual arousal

In the beginning of their porn addiction, they're not into the fetishes yet. In the beginning, they're reinforcing the nudity -> arousal pathway that's innately programmed into most normal humans. However, they start to pair that with masturbating and orgasms, and because it's the internet, they get bombarded with other, slightly stranger things that they wouldn't have looked up on their own, but because they're already aroused and their dopamine receptors have downregulated from consumption of the normal stuff, they click on it. They pleasure themselves to that new stimulus, and now that new stimulus (previously neutral, but now conditioned) has been associated with that original pathway. This repeats itself over and over.

Eventually one of three things ends up happening. Firstly, they watch videos where they can mostly only see the woman, and just see her being on the receiving end and they see her exaggerated displays of pleasure. The person who is masturbating to this is also feeling pleasure, so then he begins to associate her pleasure with his pleasure. As in, he self-inserts into the porno as the woman. Second, they run into tranny porn and find it erotic and confusing but can still get off to it because the tranny looks at least half a woman and so they again classically condition themselves to be aroused by that stimulus. Thirdly, they run into sissy hypno. This is a form of video where suggestions alluding to trooning out, or explicitly telling the viewer to troon out are played over porn clips.

Essentially: when you masturbate to something, you are conditioning yourself to like it. It's very similar to training a dog with treats. You begin to associate the pleasure and orgasm with whatever you were watching.

Have you ever enjoyed a certain food a lot but then one time it suddenly made you very sick after having it? Did you develop a strong aversion to that food after that incident? That is also an example of classical conditioning.

Spoiler: What It Isn't

There's a popular but misdirected belief that pornography addiction is operant conditioning. In operant conditioning (eg. skinner box), you gradually reduce to avoid withdrawal (aversion stimulus). This is why "nofap", "cutting down", "porn diets", "rewards/punishments", etc. don't work and have very low success rates. Those methods assume that the addiction is operant conditioning when it isn't.

To undo classical conditioning, "extinction" needs to happen. The conditioned response needs to be unpaired completely, to annihilate the association that has been created. This is why if you take pornography away from a transgender, the conditioned response will begin to go extinct. They will begin to see through the brainwashing. They will begin to doubt and question their decisions and state of mind.

 

[Jesters]

As a woman the answer is yes dear troon, but only because you look like this:
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(I had to dig deep through his profile to find this, eugh.)

God, it's like this one heard all the mockery of the AGP smirk/mirthless smile that troons do and overcorrected into uncanny over expression.

 

[Slurs McKenzie]

"...women treat me like crap on a consistent basis."
Good.
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He doesn't like when women are catty and rude to him? But I thought he wanted the woman experience??

 

[Dr. Butt]

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A tif talking with her fellow tif about being jealous of gay sex. Of course this makes her friend mad because it implies their not real gays.

Cannibalism and trannies, name a more iconic duo.

 

[Anasa Tristis]

What is it about porn that makes people want to troon out?

In his book Abstraction and Empathy, Wilhelm Worringer came up with a great phrase that covers alotta ground: "Aesthetic enjoyment is objectified self enjoyment."

Worringer was an art historian. He had a theory that some cultures preferred representational depictions over abstract ones due to their spiritual outlooks, not the level of their intelligence. (Egyptian and Japanese art were considered "primitive" because they weren't "realistic" to 3 point perspective loving Western eyes. Blah, blah, bigotry, etc.)

But he made a valuable observation: that people project themselves into whatever they're viewing, reading, hearing, etc., and imagine what it's like to be there. Their ability to comfortably project themselves into the art determines whether it works for them aesthetically or not.

Anyway: It's been noted over and over that troons start out projecting themselves into the men they see in porn, but somewhere along the line they switch to imagining themselves as the women. And then they start identifying as women.

I get that, but that doesn't explain how it triggers the troon within them in the first place. I guess we'll never know.

Mirror neurons. They fire in our brains when we watch and do things. They're very handy for learning new skills. They also inspire empathy towards what is observed. So there's evolutionary social and emotional components to them too. Bonding for survival. I suspect that with the right combination of observations and actions, empathy sends the gooning male over the reality fence into the greener grass of identifying as female. (And vise versa with our Yaoi fans.) They project themselves into the scene, get aroused, feel the empathy and get the dopamine hit from the coom. (Fandom is another, deeper level of rewarding immersion. Girlie style.) Since being a gender special is a common enough and socially acceptable thing nowadays, the troon (or pooner) question gets raised in their head and gets embraced. Deeply and emotionally.

Now if you don't have much in the way of emotional intelligence or resilience, I suspect you're more prone to troon out than someone who does.

Humans have used meditative, repetitive, ritualistic or ceremonial actions to change consciousness and experience supernatural states ever since the dawn of time. They are the tools of magic and religion. Thanks to our liberally permissive modern world and the internet delivering a vast selection of experiences that you can project yourself into, those tools are being used for trooning and pooning out via porn and Yaoi. For maladaptations. Human consciousness is being changed, but not for the betterment of humanity.

 

[Continuum Transfunctioner]

What is it about porn that makes people want to troon out?

Others have chimed in and I'll probably be repeating some points but it's 100% porn addiction. Futanari, tranny, and cross dressing are forefront hentai tropes. This is only one part, I think the actual biggest reason is they find other porn addicts who groom them into being a tranny by feeding into degregation fetishes ei. calling them girly things, good girl, ect, then pushing them further by saying their porn addicted erection is gender euphoria and how much cuter they'd be as a girl. Once they troon out they either get added to the polycule grooming them or dropped for the next victim.

 

[Lurkey Turkey]

What is it about porn that makes people want to troon out?

To me, it seems kind of like alcohol. It should be a small diversion, but for some reason certain people can't handle it at all and develop problems around it. I've been watching porn since like age 13, which is not great, but never once was I tempted to escalate to anything gay or fetishistic. At some point in the 2010s, porn stopped being for normal people, and is now exclusively made for weird addicts who are ok with "step" bullshit being in everything, etc.

Basically, I'm coming around to understanding why people have been trying to police this kind of shit for thousands of years. Gooners ruin it for everyone.

 

[Mad_Dog]

The person who is masturbating to this is also feeling pleasure, so then he begins to associate her pleasure with his pleasure.

That's kinda gay. If your hypothesis holds true, this is the crucial step that separates the troon from the man. The question remains: what predisposes some to associate the woman's pleasure with their own, rather than associating it as the consequence of their own pleasure?

Second, they run into tranny porn and find it erotic

The typical reaction is immediate repulsion, but I suppose everyone gets turned on by different things, and there might never be a clear explanation as to why.

Thirdly, they run into sissy hypno.

This is so far down the rabbit-hole, I can't even conceptualize the appeal of such a thing.

 

[CoolFool]

Anyway: It's been noted over and over that troons start out projecting themselves into the men they see in porn, but somewhere along the line they switch to imagining themselves as the women. And then they start identifying as women.

You see this mentality a lot when troons talk about wanting to have a girlgasm. Men being jealous of how women apparently have earth shattering, full body orgasms. They don't realize that they are seeing a very exaggerated or flat out fake representation of female pleasure. Instead, they have conditioned themselves via years of masturbating to believe that what they see is real, and at some point, they want to be those women and experience the ultimate pleasure. So they start fantasizing about being a "woman" and that later turns into trying to make that fantasy a reality via trooning out. Of course they never reach their goal, not only because you can't change your gender, but also because their idea of what it means to be a woman is based on lies.

 

[SweetieMouse]

predisposes

I don't think the predisposition is anything more than already being a disgusting, degenerate person. I think the people who troon out were already deviant in some way, sexually or otherwise. A ridiculously high number of them have personality disorders or autism. They already weren't looking at things the way everyone else was or experiencing life the same way or viewing other human experiences the same way as a "normal" individual. I think the autistic people are tricked into it, but I have no sympathy for the cluster B's who do this.
In other words, I believe that their extreme porn addictions and trooning out and other fetishistic displays are an outward manifestation of their inner rotten souls. The typical addict likely feels some sort of shame or other negative feelings towards their vice, not "pride". These people on the other hand, were already arrogant and entitled before trooning. And so these same negative personality traits are what led to them chasing lust unchecked, not feeling any shame or disgust, and becoming more brazen in their vices.
Even the part where they project themselves onto the woman on the screen is due to the "me me me me i should be the one experiencing that level of pleasure" entitlement. Of course the girl is faking it but that makes it funnier. I also think it's because the girl is the center of attention and they want to be the center of attention in that way.

 

[Mad_Dog]

I don't think the predisposition is anything more than already being a disgusting, degenerate person. I think the people who troon out were already deviant in some way, sexually or otherwise. A ridiculously high number of them have personality disorders or autism. They already weren't looking at things the way everyone else was or experiencing life the same way or viewing other human experiences the same way as a "normal" individual. I think the autistic people are tricked into it, but I have no sympathy for the cluster B's who do this.
In other words, I believe that their extreme porn addictions and trooning out and other fetishistic displays are an outward manifestation of their inner rotten souls. The typical addict likely feels some sort of shame or other negative feelings towards their vice, not "pride". These people on the other hand, were already arrogant and entitled before trooning. And so these same negative personality traits are what led to them chasing lust unchecked, not feeling any shame or disgust, and becoming more brazen in their vices.
Even the part where they project themselves onto the woman on the screen is due to the "me me me me i should be the one experiencing that level of pleasure" entitlement. Of course the girl is faking it but that makes it funnier. I also think it's because the girl is the center of attention and they want to be the center of attention in that way.

This has me thinking, has there been a general failure in terms of parenting that lead to this?

 

[gampboonerisms]

classical conditioning

This makes me wonder what an extinction burst looks like in the tranny world.

 

[Necrosan]

This has me thinking, has there been a general failure in terms of parenting that lead to this?

Unsupervised/unrestricted access to the Internet.

The more I grow up the more I realize that giving kids a magic screen where an algorythm decides what they watch next is not worth it, even if it gives the parents peace.

 

[Stan]

It could be personal, anedoctical experience, but I don't feel my gender has been changed. I growth into myself, into what I've ALWAYS been. I didn't come from a masculine state to "translate" to a feminine one. I've always been a woman, that got erroneously assigned make at birth. So I rarely talk about my "transition" and usually use the term GENDER AFFIRMATION.

What the actual fuck.

reddit having a normal one

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What the actual FUCK?!
I am so weary of troons trying to pretend they were somehow always female. They were born as boys, unambiguous and biologically NORMAL males. (They try to steal valor from intersex people but trans people are by definition not intersex.) They have some psychological problem or a metaphysical religious belief they're females. That doesn't mean they get to erase history and the meaning of words!

Idk sorry for the rant, I'm preaching to the choir, but I can't grasp how someone can honestly believe something so airheaded as "yes I may have been born with a totally normal penis, testes, and XY karyotype but I'm actually FEMALE, somehow, because I want to be, and all of this objective evidence to the contrary is wrong."

"...women treat me like crap on a consistent basis."
Good.

Women act like this around this troon because they perceive him as a pervert and a potential threat. If they were nice to him he would try to make friends, get them alone, push their boundaries, and attempt a Buffalo Grill special (that is, unwanted sexual advances and inappropriate behavior.) They're being mean to him to make him keep his distance because they don't want to risk dealing with that.

I think it's just the sheer amount and content that's the problem. Think back to like the 80's and 90's when your porn viewing habits were dictated entirely by whatever magazines or tapes you could get your hands on, so there were fewer troons because most guys who believed they were straight wouldn't even consider buying gay/tranny stuff. Kids who grew up with PornHub would be much more inclined to at least take a look at stuff that their parents wouldn't have even had access to when they were the same age, because they could find thousands of videos of shot they wouldn't have even thought about if the website hadn't suggested it to them.

I think of it like vape pens. Back in the 90's vapes were pretty obscure devices used by a very limited contingent of people who needed to be able to buy this thing mail-order and fill their own cartridges at home. Now vape pens are ubiquitously available at gas stations, they're plug and play easy to use, gas stations sell the cartridges and everything and it's easy for teens to get their hands on them. It's a lot easier to hide a vaping habit than it is to conceal smoking cigarettes. So the vape pen companies are working their hardest to get a new generation of people hooked on nicotine, and they'll do it by providing nicotine in more convenient ways, more flavors, and more potency than before.

So likewise, porn used to be harder to obtain, more limited selection of flavors, the part of it that reinforced the behavioral addiction wasn’t as potent, and so you see less porn addiction. But when the porn is so available that it’s nearly ubiquitous, so much so that you have to go out of your way to avoid it, and it’s available on demand at the push of a button, in whatever flavor of escalating violence you most prefer, men consume more of it and they end up getting addicted to hardcore shit that their grandads never even heard of. And the pornographers who supply this material have every reason to want to accelerate that consumption and there’s very little counterbalancing force advocating for keeping it out of the hands of kids, so actually it’s a bit worse than vaping. The powers that be are mostly willing to acknowledge that we shouldn’t make nicotine vapes available to kids but porn is much more debated, with some people saying it’s either inevitable or it’s acceptable for porn to occupy this position of prominence.

 

[Hellhammer]

Yet another troon on r/makeupaddiction asking the women how to be prettier

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Going on his profile, he is mostly obsessed with finding a “ doppelgänger” or trying to stealth as just one of the girls

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That being said, his very first post in a tranny fashion sub (further) gives himself away. His burning question:

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r/MakeupAddiction is a breeding ground for troons. I barely see an actual woman post. No amount of caked foundation can hide your 5 o’clock shadow

 

[Stan]

This makes me wonder what an extinction burst looks like in the tranny world.

It looks like a tranny furiously trying to masturbate even though he killed his libido with HRT and got his dick and balls removed.

 

[Sean Andalou]

So likewise, porn used to be harder to obtain, more limited selection of flavors, the part of it that reinforced the behavioral addiction wasn’t as potent, and so you see less porn addiction.

Back in the 1970s when legalizing pornographic movies was debated in the USA, none the experts on any side considered the possible effects of infinite free porn without leaving the house. Not even as some sort of "slippery slope" argument. That would be crazy, right?
How little they knew.

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Now back to troons and their self posted Ls.
Is it possible to be completely horrified while laughing?

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So like, I’m still pre transition, but I’m staying a virgin until I can pass. I’m an aroace lesbian so I don’t want to date a straight woman who’ll just break up with me once I start to transition. and I don’t want to be percieved as a man while having sex.

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Having sex with a pre everything trans girl while I was also pre everything was actually incredibly affirming. Like at some point it hit me that despite seeing her fully exposed, there's just no way I'd ever see her as a man. She was a woman, we were having lesbian sex, and there was a high likelihood she sees me as me too.

Anyways it's a valid choice but perhaps be open to go back on this choice if you find the right person, you might find it euphoric! (and of course sex can be pretty great regardless of trans stuff).

Another comment.

I’m post-op MtF, and I have no desire or interest in sex. I guess I’m somewhat asexual, but I consider myself pan romantic? But the likely outcome is that I’ll stay a virgin.

 

[Pig Cups]

As a woman the answer is yes dear troon, but only because you look like this:
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(I had to dig deep through his profile to find this, eugh.)

He looks like Dong Gone, no joke.

 

[Necrosan]

I’m an aroace lesbian

This person is, at the very least, 300 pounds.