Mega Rad Gun Thread

[888Flux]

I'm in agreement with rocket launcher man in that registering potatoes will only have the ATF asking for a larger budget.

Which is being proposed to be merged with the DEA. Which would lessen oversight and give them more agency to fuck the American people over

This is the worst possible outcome. Leaving the NFA as-is would have been better. You won't be able to get a suppressor or any tax stamped item and you can thank the Republican party for that. All they had to do was absolutely nothing. All it would take is one senator to say "lol no". There was nothing stopping the GOP from re-adding the same text. Absolutely nothing.

But they don't care. Once you are stripped of rights you don't get them back. It doesn't matter what they are, whether it's consumer rights like the right to repair or the right to add a can to your gun without having your dog shot.

The apathy of the American constituent borders on suicidal nihilism. This much like everything else will be forgotten down the road. Something else will come to occupy it's place in the news cycle.

We live in a post-consequence age. There has never been a time like this in politics. As an example, the Watergate scandal of the 70's was politically relevant for almost a decade. And when compared to contemporary events it seems like almost nothing. Had it happened today it would be a blip in the collective conscious.

No one holds these people accountable anymore. The same people who, regardless of a D or R do insider trading on an industrial scale. They have more money then you will ever make in several lifetimes over.

 

[AGPinochet]

"Dirte Dozen" DIY shotgun, Bill of materials is about $75


WIP double barrel variant


"Chiqtana" DIY delayed blowback handgun, uses a delayed blowback mechanism similar to that used in the Savage A17


Gas system of the Russian STM-415 rifle, DI micro tube feeding into a short stroke piston system


Custom PK series MG's




Prototype enhanced Plan B Adapter and muzzle device with secondary locking mechanism by Kodiak suppressors. No ratcheting mechanism, kinda sorta works like a B&T/Surefire mount where it locks up behind a lip near the rear of the muzzle device
I'm no engineer man but I think a possible improvement that could be made is to have the lip have an a angled surface that forces the locking piece outwards when threading the suppressor on and allows it to automatically depress after by passing it instead of having to depress the button even just for a second near the end of thread travel.


HEZI SM-1
An M1 carbine molested by Jews more than a kid on Epstein Island



"Saikou Safety" modified for use in a 3D printed DB9 Mac frame


The overall design has also been updated


Iranian Militiaman packing out drone debris, he looks to be holding a heavily customized M1 Garand with collapsing stock and PU scope


Zaffiri Precision threadless compensator


Sureshot Armament (Russia) has a new dust cover/side rail optic mount hybrid


Suppressed MG-34




Terrible photos of a .44 magnum DeLisle feeding from what I think is a Desert Eagle magazine



Interior of an absolutely ancient shotgun suppressor

@Club Sandwich
Do you have any Idea why B&T went with an AAC style ratchet mount on the MARS for their submission for the Marine Corps suppressor contract as opposed to their Rotary or A2 mount.

Also, speaking of suppressors, I've known for a little while that both Surefire RC-2's and KAC QDC's have a little ring between the mount on the blast baffle. I recently saw a post by a guy on Arfcom referring to this ring (in the context of the RC-2) as a "flash hider support ring". I have a couple questions
1. Was that Arfcom boomer talking out of his ass
2. If he was correct in what way does the flash hier interface with the ring, do the tines butt up against it or does the ring rest on top of it
3. I've seen many a blast baffle photo and this is not a universal feature, is this a patented feature licensed to surefire/KAC from one another

 

[NeonFlux]

It's the Federal stuff, right? I've run a good bit of that through my AR-10 and Ruger GSS. It's a lot better made than the M80 stuff you can find a little cheaper.

M80 sadly, thanks for letting me know Federal is better.

 

[Dean Pentel]

Frankly amazing that people even consider carrying the Indian Mystery Metal Special aimed at their balls. In a world where Glocks, USPs, CZ75s and M&Ps exist no less!
I guess at this point just owning one of these in and of itself qualifies for a Darwin award?

I wonder if it's something akin to sunk cost fallacy, where someone has X and Y amounts of time and money put into the Sig pistol(s) already so they feel that they can't or shouldn't walk away.

I'm sorta in that camp. I'll carry my P320 in an IWB holster behind my right hip or in my Kenai chest holster, but I shitcanned my AIWB holsters for it. It's still a decently accurate, reliable pistol and so I ruck with it and take it to non-permissive places. I've never had an ND because I observe the 4 safety laws and even so, I'm much more observant of where the pistol's muzzle is pointed, even if it's in its holster. Using snap caps I've bumped it/dropped it/thumped it and I couldn't get it to have an "uncommanded discharge." I definitely treat it differently because I don't want to find out the hard way the thing was an accident waiting to happen.

M80 sadly, thanks for letting me know Federal is better.

Oh yeah, I forgot that M80 can run 147-150 grain bullets. My mistake. It definitely runs the gamut of consistency so don't get your hopes up for anything better than 2 MOA (IMI and Federal can do this sometimes). Have fun, shoot safely, that's all that matters.

 

[big pauper]

I really don't understand this one. To me, if one wants this I'd recommend one of four things. 1) A CMMG Banshee Mk47. Fucking expensive. 2) A Mk116 MOD2 upper from PWS on whatever lower they want. Fucking expensive. 3) Get that same upper from PWS but in .300 BLK. Better ballistics than 7.62X39, the mags don't look fucking stupid, and the ammo is actually less expensive and easier to find. Also, fucking expensive. 4) Get an AK and be content with having to pay a lot for for cheaply made, shitty ammo.

when i first got into guns it took me a long time to figure out where exactly the line between bullshit and actual technical mumbo jumbo is and marketing is so heavy that it leads one to the impression that a gun is a gun and it's just gonna work because they figured out all the mumbo jumbo. so it takes quite a while to learn that there in fact is no mumbo jumbo and they literally just sell people lemons on a regular basis and this is just how the gun industry works, and like 80% or more of it is just aesthetic impulse buys based on lies and conjecture

its also not about function they didnt want a gun that shot 762 they wanted an AR and then looked at the ars and then saw the one with the biggest bullet and most aggressive magazine and went "oh yeah that one"

I'm sorta in that camp. I'll carry my P320 in an IWB holster behind my right hip or in my Kenai chest holster, but I shitcanned my AIWB holsters for it. It's still a decently accurate, reliable pistol and so I ruck with it and take it to non-permissive places. I've never had an ND because I observe the 4 safety laws and even so, I'm much more observant of where the pistol's muzzle is pointed, even if it's in its holster. Using snap caps I've bumped it/dropped it/thumped it and I couldn't get it to have an "uncommanded discharge." I definitely treat it differently because I don't want to find out the hard way the thing was an accident waiting to happen.

to me the problem appears to be that sig isn't actually making the pistol to the level that they need it to be based on the level of marketing to police forces and security types but they can't admit any type of fault because paramilitary organizations don't tend to be very forgiving when it comes to organizational failures. Most people i know who carry don't carry loaded and to those people there isn't even a problem with the p320... but the whole ass gun industry is built around the people who carry COCKED AND LOCKED AT ALL TIMES

 

[WelperHelper99]

I would like to thank the 2 week slavic chimpout mud wrestling tournament for making the bolter just a little bit closer to reality.

*Aroused Astartes noises intensify*

The Barrett Bolter makes me happy for the future of firearms development. 40mm is cool, but you can fire those 30mm grenades faster and with more accuracy.

I'll say that we've NEVER had a AWB again and even just the $0 "tax" is a win.

That said the fucking spineless bastards on the Senate who gutted suppressors and SBRs from the BBB are cowards.

I will take no tax, because now it's just paperwork. A win is a fucking win.

 

[Among Us Gaming]

we have come very far in the last 40 years.

True. Politics move at a glacial pace (for better or for worse). Especially for gun stuff, its not about fighting and securing big wins, its about slowly moving the Overton window such that more and more things become acceptable in the mainstream.

Which is why I disagree with this

unlikely we'll see a nationwide challenge to it in the next couple of decades.

You say the FRT and BBB changes are mostly meaningless, I dissagree. These things make, more or less, SBRs, supressors, and automatic fire (or close enough that mean voter wouldn't know the difference), more accessible to that mean voter.
A large part of why most people are far more comfortable with ARs now, is because nothing much has happened as a result of ARs being widely available, and in many cases, people owning one or two due to how ubiquitous and affordable they are.

 

[Internet-Based Lobotomy]

Boonie hat, Crocodile Dundee hat, and shemagh/keffiyeh for the win.

The boomers on the range would probably be baffled to see a terrorist larper guy since only those people wear those things.

Frankly amazing that people even consider carrying the Indian Mystery Metal Special aimed at their balls. In a world where Glocks, USPs, CZ75s and M&Ps exist no less!
I guess at this point just owning one of these in and of itself qualifies for a Darwin award?

But like the US military uses them and they only use the best things ever!

 

[DocAwe]

The boomers on the range would probably be baffled to see a terrorist larper guy since only those people wear those things.

But like the US military uses them and they only use the best things ever!

I wear a shemagh like a scarf almost daily (I just like them) and constantly get either side eye or people thanking me for supporting Palestine.

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

Winchester Ammunition just had a round of layoffs hit the engineering dept last month.

 

[Club Sandwich]

Do you have any Idea why B&T went with an AAC style ratchet mount on the MARS for their submission for the Marine Corps suppressor contract as opposed to their Rotary or A2 mount.

manual of arms compatibility with SDN and Mk13 that the USMC and Navy were already using and repeatable alignment/index. the large diameter on the MARS QD also lends itself better to a ratchet mount for consistency vs direct thread or the A2 mount which can fatigue with repeated attachments and removals during PMCS and not all A2's are perfectly indexed the same on all rifles and can be a little off here or there which has no bearing on a flash hider but has bigger problems with a suppressor. the A2 also varies pressure on the internal ratchet with how many rip-its the Marine has had that day. i prefer the A2 hub on carbines that have indexed A2's, but i've used the Rotex adapter successfully for years on rack rifles and pistols where i don't really need precision, but i do need consistency and i'm not cranking it on in a hurry or trying to get to the same index mark each time, since that will vary a little. personally i run KAC and older Sionics and AAC suppressors so the newer stuff i'm a bit limited on direct experience on fancy modern gear.

it's also one more piece of gear that can be lost or damaged and an integrated attachment tends to work best unless you want to see chicken wire and rubber bands or paracord being used to secure suppressor mounts.

Also, speaking of suppressors, I've known for a little while that both Surefire RC-2's and KAC QDC's have a little ring between the mount on the blast baffle. I recently saw a post by a guy on Arfcom referring to this ring (in the context of the RC-2) as a "flash hider support ring". I have a couple questions
1. Was that Arfcom boomer talking out of his ass
2. If he was correct in what way does the flash hier interface with the ring, do the tines butt up against it or does the ring rest on top of it
3. I've seen many a blast baffle photo and this is not a universal feature, is this a patented feature licensed to surefire/KAC from one another

1. the locking collar ring on the KAC provides a cheap replaceable shoulder for the ratchet teeth if they wear out or get damaged and is field-replaceable. this is a feature that is rarely used but it means you don't have to send it back if you have ratchet problems like teeth engagement or a broken tooth.
2. on the Surefire it provides a shoulder for the Warcomp's labyrinth seal to butt up against and is also replaceable much like the piston ring on a piston head - the ring can deform a little since it's soft spring steel and this helps keeps things centered.
3. it's patented by KAC and licensed to a few other companies like AAC, Surefire, and Tornado suppressors among others.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Winchester Ammunition just had a round of layoffs hit the engineering dept last month.

They just bought Ammo Inc. recently, I wonder what gives.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

Winchester Ammunition just had a round of layoffs hit the engineering dept last month.

what does a ammunition engineer do? design new cartridges or projectiles? if Winchester isn't anticipating developing either of those then i can see why they'd layoff some engineers.

 

[SuperConglomerateWhale]

Some retard in New York City tried arguing with me over why a CR920 is getter than a $300 Glock. His argument was “my carry is over 1k and they have a replacement guarantee for legal defensive use of a firearm so that point is moot. regardless everyone has different income levels and preferences so just to say get the cheaper gun isn’t a one stop solution”.

my brother, your $1k Glock clone is in an evidence locker when you use it, doesn’t matter if you get a new one in return. It’s dumb to spend that kind of money on a gun itself you plan to carry.

 

[DocAwe]

Some retard in New York City tried arguing with me over why a CR920 is getter than a $300 Glock. His argument was “my carry is over 1k and they have a replacement guarantee for legal defensive use of a firearm so that point is moot. regardless everyone has different income levels and preferences so just to say get the cheaper gun isn’t a one stop solution”.

my brother, your $1k Glock clone is in an evidence locker when you use it, doesn’t matter if you get a new one in return. It’s dumb to spend that kind of money on a gun itself you plan to carry.

I bought a $1000 handgun once.
Company went bankrupt about a year later and now I own an unsupported novelty.

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

They just bought Ammo Inc. recently, I wonder what gives.

Parent company is Olin Chemical that makes epoxy and chlorine feedstocks. Both of those divisions are also in the toilet due to “East Asian” (Chinese) counties bringing a bunch of capacity online and dumping in western markets.

what does a ammunition engineer do? design new cartridges or projectiles? if Winchester isn't anticipating developing either of those then i can see why they'd layoff some engineers.

From their earnings reports the biggest thing keeping them going is military and government sales IE operating Lake City. They are in a better position then most of the ammo companies though which is why we are seen consolidation going on.

I wouldn’t be surprised if PSA sells off AAC.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

I wouldn’t be surprised if PSA sells off AAC.

I'm half and half, thinking about that. Have the reports on bad ammo ceased or is it still a gamble? They didn't even start on 5.45 yet so if they do go the way of the do-do I don' t think it's a huge loss.

 

[Rainbow Idiot]

Have the reports on bad ammo ceased or is it still a gamble?

I have a buddy that swears by the stuff and has shot copious amounts of 5.56 AAC. Only oopsie he's found so far is one round had either a missing primer or the firing pin somehow knocked it out. Discovered it after pulling the trigger and clearing the round.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

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Anderson is shutting down.

https://andersonmanufacturing.com/

Now I can go boomer mode and try to sell my old BNIB anderson stripped lowers as collector's items. Bought on sale a long time ago to hedge against AR bans.

 

[Club Sandwich]

Now I can go boomer mode and try to sell my old BNIB anderson stripped lowers as collector's items. Bought on sale a long time ago to hedge against AR bans.

to be fair people still buy "pre-ban Bushmaster/Colt/Sendra/etc" receivers and such. depends on where they are like maryland or something.