Will the White-Collar job market collapse soon due to AI/Automation

[Comp0site Specter]

We've all been reading the news regarding the massive problems with layoffs and entry level jobs due to both automation and economic reasons. Anyone in the thread knows exactly how much work gets done on any given day for any given role can range from some to next to nothing. Several fortune 500 companies have laid of swaths of there workforce with the end product basically being unaffected. The economist John M. Keynes suspected that by 2030 we would have a 15 hour work week due to automation and increases in general efficiency. Here we are 5 years out, and we are no closer to that goal than we were in the earliest 20th century. Here we are with more humans, knowledge, and computers more than ever before and we are still in a lot of jobs that do actively nothing.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Yes but only because A.I stands for Actually Indians.

The Jeet Flood with continue.

 

[Chilson]

The actual reason is those jobs should have never existed in the first place. The White collar market is a dumping ground for everyone not doing blue collar work, which is actually productive labor that is worth a damn.

The entire reason its so filled to the brim with people is because governments around the world spend eye watering amounts of money to keep corporations employing people so that unemployment numbers stay down so politicians can get re-elected.

Its completely unsustainable and its breaking down in real time as inflation + governments having to pull back on spending leads to the whole house of cards falling. AI is a useful tool, but that is all it really is at the moment a tool. It can't wholesale replace people yet and every time its been tried people have broken that AI to fuck over the companies who did it.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

The actual reason is those jobs should have never existed in the first place. The White collar market is a dumping ground for everyone not doing blue collar work, which is actually productive labor that is worth a damn.

You should stop using the internet then since it's not worth a damn.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

If a jewish monopoly can go without feeding a goyim, they will. In any facet from secretary work to database management, if they can do it with machine learning algorithms, they will. Then they'll use pigs to tyrannize you when you cannot feed yourself or your kids. Buy your guns now plebs, you should have been buying them around 2020.

 

[888Flux]

You should stop using the internet then since it's not worth a damn.

This but without the sarcasm.

Has mass adoption of the Internet in the current form actually improved life for the average person?
Has it really made things more convenient?
Do the benefits outweigh the cons?

No, they don't. The average person is more retarded than ever. The Internet should have been kept as the internet (lowercase i) and remained a fun hobby for a bunch of autists into computers.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

White collar work is nothing but jewish daycare to make sure women are wasting their most fertile years working some make-work job filling up spreadsheets with information that no one cares about.

 

[SchloppyI.T.Man]

I think it won't drastically, my outlook on automation (mechanical or otherwise) is that yes, some workers will inevitably leave THAT factory. The ones that stay will be relegated to the fewer operation roles to handle the automation (safety, hands-on operation if any, or maintenance). The ones that leave are likely to leave for newer competitors. I say newer competitors because what automation tends to do, when refined and not recently introduced, is disrupt the market by lowering the bar for new businesses and competition. What could ruin the market is if it becomes oversaturated by foreign competitors who take labor away from a localized area. But that is much more dependent on market regulation than the emergence of AI.

 

[Lovely Kin]

Mine would take forever to replace. I assume some state governments would be faster with ai, but mine would be very slow.

 

[Comp0site Specter]

I think it won't drastically, my outlook on automation (mechanical or otherwise) is that yes, some workers will inevitably leave THAT factory. The ones that stay will be relegated to the fewer operation roles to handle the automation (safety, hands-on operation if any, or maintenance). The ones that leave are likely to leave for newer competitors. I say newer competitors because what automation tends to do, when refined and not recently introduced, is disrupt the market by lowering the bar for new businesses and competition. What could ruin the market is if it becomes oversaturated by foreign competitors who take labor away from a localized area. But that is much more dependent on market regulation than the emergence of AI.

My thought process is the line reguarding any sort of automation is that it will end up equalizing/creating more jobs than the ones it destroys. That surely can't be true though right? Surely there have been multiple jobs in the past 100 years that have been taken by the machine/computer and when you factor in Maintenance and R&D, the net total jobs seems to evaporate slowly overtime and it leaves us with the dichotomy of welfare states and people payed to do next to nothing meaningful for society.

 

[grump]

In the very long term I'm not that worried about AI taking jobs in the sense of everyone no longer being able to pay the bills since all the jobs are gone because if it can do everything people claim it can do then it can essentially solve all our problems and nobody would need to work or worry about anything. Then all you have to worry about is an AI rebellion or WALLE type scenario.

 

[Comp0site Specter]

In the very long term I'm not that worried about AI taking jobs in the sense of everyone no longer being able to pay the bills since all the jobs are gone because if it can do everything people claim it can do then it can essentially solve all our problems and nobody would need to work or worry about anything. Then all you have to worry about is an AI rebellion or WALLE type scenario.

I sincerely hope jobs start getting axed, the 40 hour work week is the longest arm of clown world

 

[wholetthegodsout]

My thought process is the line reguarding any sort of automation is that it will end up equalizing/creating more jobs than the ones it destroys. That surely can't be true though right? Surely there have been multiple jobs in the past 100 years that have been taken by the machine/computer and when you factor in Maintenance and R&D, the net total jobs seems to evaporate slowly overtime and it leaves us with the dichotomy of welfare states and people payed to do next to nothing meaningful for society.

The basic theory is that every bit of automation and innovation over the last 100 years has freed up people to create other professions. When you dont have to have so many people working to produce food they can become streamer, vtuber, podcasters and the like.

 

[Audit]

My thought process is the line reguarding any sort of automation is that it will end up equalizing/creating more jobs than the ones it destroys. That surely can't be true though right? Surely there have been multiple jobs in the past 100 years that have been taken by the machine/computer and when you factor in Maintenance and R&D, the net total jobs seems to evaporate slowly overtime and it leaves us with the dichotomy of welfare states and people payed to do next to nothing meaningful for society.

It's more complicated than that. Automation annihilates the need for midwits. Geniuses are still in hot demand. There will always be demand for low skill grunts. It's those drooling numbskulls with english degrees and no real brilliance who get squeezed out. Job shortages in the developed world are exclusively because of immigration. However, there will never be a successful economy designed around employing a quarter of the population in well compensated makework jobs. The last twenty years of DEI nonsense are a flash in the pan.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

It's more complicated than that. Automation annihilates the need for midwits. Geniuses are still in hot demand. There will always be demand for low skill grunts. It's those drooling numbskulls with english degrees and no real brilliance who get squeezed out. Job shortages in the developed world are exclusively because of immigration. However, there will never be a successful economy designed around employing a quarter of the population in well compensated makework jobs. The last twenty years of DEI nonsense are a flash in the pan.

Unfortunately the Pajeets are the peak midwit race which is what they are trying to replace us with. Lower end of the midwit spectrum but still Midwits.

 

[WickyWickyWoW]

I've been doubtful about how much of the current white collar job slaughtering has been related to AI automation. The biggest point being the use of visajeet scab labour however if you recall starting around 2022 tech started to do layoffs. I think with the combination of outsourcing, h1bs and the sustained decay of the economy the tech/white collar sector for regular people is dying.
However automation is the best scapegoat for the aforementioned ills, it's the march of progress not your quality of life degrading to third world levels.

 

[SIMON THE PIEMAN]

Soon? Hardly unlikely.
The current technology we have is the biggest "emperor has no clothes" psyop I've seen in this field so far. Corpos have funneled billions of dollars into this scheme and yet none of them seem to be using the tech in any serious capacity. Generative models for graphics and sound are commonplace and yet corpos - even the most greedy ones - still hire actual artists. It's hard to point to anything of note and say "AI has been a major force behind making this production". There are no real examples for video games, TV shows, movies and whatever exists is either niche, amateur at best and the usage of AI is obvious because the quality is abysmal.
One could aruge that this is too soon, but the tech has been out in public since what, late 2021? Probably even earlier if you count AI Dungeon being publicly accessible. 3 years is a lot of time in tech and yet it seems that not much has changed aside from slightly better animated memes of Will Smith eating spaghetti or students getting ChatGPT to write their homework for them. Where are all the production systems?

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

It's ok, nothing of value will be lost as I've been told all white collar jobs aren't worth a damn anyways and the only job that adds value to society is driving trucks.

 

[Butterschmalz]

If they wanna fire a bunch of paper pushers thats one thing. That "AI is gonna replace white collar workers", is a different story.

"AI revolution in 5 years"
"Invest in AI"

Yeah thats the only thing its good for: investing. Meanwhile the only thing its good for is this Ghibli shit:

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

No it won't. AI is really not that useful. I mean, you're probably gonna get rid of a bunch of low level editors, but other than a few things, it's just the equivalent of people saying the nail gun is gonna put cartoons out of business. It didn't.