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Remember when neoliberals screeched that they wanted abortion to be “safe, legal, and rare”? You probably didn’t believe them. You were right:
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Breitbart reports on her stylish hat:

Sure it is. Just like sexually mutilating children to turn them into perverts on behalf of LGBT dogma — another policy popular among liberals.
Something conservatards need to understand, but won't (because they're "beautiful losers"), is that this shit - abortion and trannies and child grooming all alike - is evil. Evil and contrary to one of the most basic functions of society: protecting the weak from harm. And a society that actively promotes it is an evil society, regardless of whatever it was before or whatever you hope to make it into.

You don't have to entertain it with debate. You don't have to be polite to those that support it. You don't have to abide by the laws of society where it's concerned.

Those that support it should be treated the way they deserved: with absolute coldness and violence when necessary to prevent it.
 
This may be a stretch, but I genuinely believe that Sam Hyde could start a political party today with whatever cash he can find in his couch cushions, and it would absolutely throttle Elon's Call Center Party in terms of impact and public support. Who the fuck is going to vote for Elon's party other than shit-slurping jeets? Not a rhetorical question, I'm seriously struggling to imagine who this fucking person is. Is it a MAGA boomer who suddenly ditches Trump's political project because he has decided at the 11th hour that Indians are heccin' Americans? They just want to grill, for Pete's sake. They could grill with a spic, but a dot head would rather criminalize beef consumption. Is it a college art hoe who was cheering on Tesla dealerships being torched 3 months ago, suddenly swayed by the faux patriotism of the "America Party" into voting for Elon's stooges rather than voting blue no matter who? Is it a fence-sitting soccer mom who thinks politics has gotten too nasty recently, and so decides to embrace that nice billionaire who she's heard 0 positive things about since the early 2010's if ever? This shit is doomed, I'm confident that the Libertarian candidate would blow their candidate out of the fucking water if they decided to run someone in 2028.
 
the problem you're running into here Moishe is an argument that is self-contained.
Except it can't be. You made a statement, not an argument. You're conflating your statement as the end all to an argument that never happened. It's a very womanly thing to do.

I'll give you an example to show you how retarded you are. I say "Anyone who doesn't like pepperoni pizza is a faggot." Under your rules, this is a complete argument that is self contained.

In reality, there's obvious questions that come up. People ask why do you think that, what about if you eat pineapple or plain pizza, so on. I refuse to answer and accuse anyone who disagrees or has questions about my argument of seething.

What you set up is a Kafka trap where you make a statement and if anyone disagrees with your statement or asks you to clarify, you just accuse them of being MIGA. You're pretending this is some proof that's self proving when it very clearly isn't. You never define what makes the proof true.

It's peak pseudo intellectualism where you think just saying things you think are true is an argument
 
Except it can't be. You made a statement, not an argument.
Semantics again.

If A Then B; Else C is a classical propositional form of presenting an argument.

If anyone's arguing like a fucking woman here, it's you, retard. The rest of your pilpul is similarly retarded screeching.
 
Buddy of mine linked me this, and the moment I saw the thumbnail I had a chuckle:
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I have yet to watch it, but the name of Portable Orange with the broccoli haircut is a bit on the nose. Based on the description alone I would reckon this guy is a neocon soyboy who was mad when Romney was destroyed by Trump. He also mentions that his path is unique, but I've heard of his political path being that of a few other folks I know. Here's a Yewtube link (I tried Preservetube, but it's causing issues right now, I'll try it again later and edit this post if it works properly).
Quck Edit: he's a tranny defender
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"I joined the far right"

The far right in question was watching some owned SJW clips
 
This may be a stretch, but I genuinely believe that Sam Hyde could start a political party today with whatever cash he can find in his couch cushions, and it would absolutely throttle Elon's Call Center Party in terms of impact and public support. Who the fuck is going to vote for Elon's party other than shit-slurping jeets? Not a rhetorical question, I'm seriously struggling to imagine who this fucking person is. Is it a MAGA boomer who suddenly ditches Trump's political project because he has decided at the 11th hour that Indians are heccin' Americans? They just want to grill, for Pete's sake. They could grill with a spic, but a dot head would rather criminalize beef consumption. Is it a college art hoe who was cheering on Tesla dealerships being torched 3 months ago, suddenly swayed by the faux patriotism of the "America Party" into voting for Elon's stooges rather than voting blue no matter who? Is it a fence-sitting soccer mom who thinks politics has gotten too nasty recently, and so decides to embrace that nice billionaire who she's heard 0 positive things about since the early 2010's if ever? This shit is doomed, I'm confident that the Libertarian candidate would blow their candidate out of the fucking water if they decided to run someone in 2028.
Sam Hyde is ugly and gross. I understand why the edgier parts of the internet worship him like a God but the idea that normie housewives would vote for Hyde is insane.

His affinity for girls in the 15-17 age range would sink him immediately.
 
If I were Elon, I'd just abandon America and relocate everything to India. I mean, why not? It's a country full of highly-qualified individuals ready for any task you give them, not to mention the country's infrastructure is just prime and ready for a power player of his level. Honestly, if America is just going to continually get in his way with all this immigration nonsense and refuse to give him EV credits when New Delhi is probably chomping at the bit to give him government money, it just makes sense for him to move all his ventures to the booming Indian market.
 
Semantics again.

If A Then B; Else C is a classical propositional form of presenting an argument.

If anyone's arguing like a fucking woman here, it's you, retard. The rest of your pilpul is similarly retarded screeching.
It's a statement, not an argument. An argument involves explanation and reasoning. If you wrote:

"People who hate Tucker but support Trump are MIGA because Tucker consistently represents Trump’s populist message better than most conservative media. Disliking him suggests a hidden neocon or establishment agenda, which aligns with MIGA behavior."

That's an argument.

If A then B; Else C doesn't make sense in this context. B has to derive from A in a logical sense while C is stand alone. You're confusing programming logic for formal logic.
 
but I genuinely believe that Sam Hyde could start a political party today with whatever cash he can find in his couch cushions
Funding is important, but 2016 and 2024 Trump and arguably democrats too showed America you don't need a ton of money if you tap into the right ideas, emotions and have a campaign that gets people enthused to vote for you.
'Member how Kamala blew 1 billion dollars on a failed campaign trying to convince people Orange Man bad for a third cycle? I 'member.

I agree with your point. The only ones left I can think of who would support Elon are tech bros who microdosed too much on LSD and ketamine and HB1 foreigners but they obv can't vote. Boomer women hate him from reliving the '60s with the "Stop Elon" protests, Boomer men will stick with Trump. He could reach some lefty edgelords from reddit who just want to own Trump and his supporters with some 'IamVerySmart' posts but they would likely never vote for him. Nothing about the American Party screams broad coalition thats a real threat. If he wants to push space and spending issues, just be a lobbyist. Creating your own gay and retarded party is dumb.
 
Sam Hyde is ugly and gross. I understand why the edgier parts of the internet worship him like a God but the idea that normie housewives would vote for Hyde is insane.
Are they going to vote for Elon's jeet puppet? I didn't say Sam Hyde could win a general election, I said that he would get more votes with a handful of Youtube videos than Elon could get with a trillion dollars of ads.
His affinity for girls in the 15-17 age range would sink him immediately.
Lol. You think allegedly porking a 17 year old girl is enough to tank your political career in 21st century America? You haven't been paying attention. Unhide your profile, pussy.
 
t's a statement, not an argument.
It's both dipshit.
As stated:
Again, the point of the statement is that it is a closed, self-proving statement
An argument is a statement after a fashion.
From https://discrete.openmathbooks.org/dmoi2/sec_propositional.html :
quoted article about propositional logic said:
A proposition is simply a statement. Propositional logic studies the ways statements can interact with each other.
so you're illogical in the literal sense here, retard. Maybe brush up on what arguments and logic actually are instead of engaging in pseudointellectual, semantic horseshit.
If A then B; Else C doesn't make sense in this context.
So to explain, since you're now pretending you can't read, the if:
if someone is MIGA rather than MAGA
the then:
is by hatred of Tucker but 'support' of Trump
the else condition added later (as in, failure to do this results in 'else'):
MIGA people fucking hate his existence and cannot, must not allow someone to say or mention that as an identifier unchallenged. I figured I'd just get angry stickers rather than a spergout. But my point stands, it's a statement that is both true and works to prove itself when made.
proven again by your own behavior (a literal IDF conscript sperging out unendingly) and by its premise. The if->then;else formula need not be literally "if" "then" "else", either. Figured I'd point that out distinctly before you clap back with more half-baked semantic bullshit.

No, it's not 'a kafka trap' or any other form of non-counter, non-argument. You're just an assmad illogical, apparently illiterate, retard who stepped into a beartrap.

If you want me to continue giving this thread an impromptu education on how to whoop a jew's ass using logic, I can continue to explain in increasing degrees why you're fucking stupid.
 
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