GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
Do not count on Intel. They are likely to fumble. Lip Butane may not be as kind to the graphics division as Pat G was, and he's already cut thousands of jobs.

Intel Arc Pro B50 and B60 For Lower Cost Pro GPUs and 18A Panther Lake Shown at Computex 2025 (archive)
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I am feeling the Intel Arc Pro B50 though. A low profile 70W GPU with 16 GB VRAM, ostensibly for $300? Keep in mind that shitty RTX 3050 6GB low profile cards sell for $200 new:
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B580 chads keep wining
 
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gnephelos said:
My point is that AMD will likely continue to follow the pattern of overpromising, underdelivering, and going with a retarded price that kills traction. 9070XT is lightning in a bottle that they only managed to capture with the fake MSRP they had at launch. I dont think AMD can recognize that the gpu market overall has been a shitshow pretty much ever since polaris/pascal.
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I'm sure this time AMD will learn.

Raging Capybara said:
nigga, the 1080ti chads are safe from upgrading to this day.
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They're cutting 1080ti users off by next generation.
 
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Max Weber said:
They're dropping driver support, but it's not like the GPU is going to turn to dust. Or if you absolutely need latest drivers to play the newest AAA slop, I guess, which, I don't even know why that's a thing.
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Due to development cycles, you won't see very many games come out that require 2025 drivers until 2027.
 
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The Ugly One said:
Due to development cycles, you won't see very many games come out that require 2025 drivers until 2027.
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I think there were a couple cases where a new game required or at least recommended the absolute latest drivers with support for that game, but that might've been for DLSS/MFG, which isn't relevant to 1080ti anyway.
 
The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
Oh yeah, reviews are a thing.


It uses the same amount of power as the 4060 while delivering less performance. That is impressive.

Also destroyed by the unwanted 9060 XT 8GB, which is 44% faster at 1080p for 20% more money (300/250).
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How is that abomination of a card not $200 max? Simply because it has 50 series features? What a cope by Nvidia.
 
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4090 Chad said:
How is that abomination of a card not $200 max? Simply because it has 50 series features? What a cope by Nvidia.
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Reviewers testing entry level card at Ultra preset will seethe but it has green logo so people will buy it, or OEMs will put it in prebuilts. AMD should fire its marketing department and put all that money into making ROCM work out of box on everything GCN and newer, CDNA is "just" a souped up Vega anyways.
Why do I need to know that for my GPU I need to export
Code: 
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for GPU offload?
 
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Drive-By Comment said:
I am actually just a little excited for next gen cards. Because of fucking Intel. Oh let it happen. Celestial, slap Nvidia's dick out of AMD's mouth and then let Druid curb stomp them both.

Kind of nice. I have not been looking forward to any hardware release in years.

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I hope Intel continues to invest in their GPU division.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
So even if there is a 5.0 m.2 bay on the moba, I can't?
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I stand corrected: If there's 2x 5.0 8x slot it should work. If cpu supports it lol.
You need a lane splitter on board iirc. What a mess.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
So even if there is a 5.0 m.2 bay on the moba, I can't?
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The real world difference between 5.0 and 4.0 on SSD's is surprisingly low, a Windows 11 boot time is reduced by about 1 second. The general consensus is the only reason to get one is if you need it for work. But they're getting cheaper now so if you're doing a new build putting a 5.0 1TB boot drive in might be nice to have.
Dawdler said:
I stand corrected: If there's 2x 5.0 8x slot it should work. If cpu supports it lol.
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Z690 boards just have the 5.0 x16 slot, I've never seen one that uses 2 x8's instead. Z790 might have more 5.0 lanes though.
 
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Bogan said:
The real world difference between 5.0 and 4.0 on SSD's is surprisingly low, a Windows 11 boot time is reduced by about 1 second. The general consensus is the only reason to get one is if you need it for work. But they're getting cheaper now so if you're doing a new build putting a 5.0 1TB boot drive in might be nice to have.

Z690 boards just have the 5.0 x16 slot, I've never seen one that uses 2 x8's instead. Z790 might have more 5.0 lanes though.
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I was asking because I built a 12th gen system with a Z790 board for my old man. Has a 5.0 pcie slot and a 5.0 m.2. I wanted to know if it was able to utilize the 5.0 M.2 if it ever gets upgraded
 
WelperHelper99 said:
I was asking because I built a 12th gen system with a Z790 board for my old man. Has a 5.0 pcie slot and a 5.0 m.2. I wanted to know if it was able to utilize the 5.0 M.2 if it ever gets upgraded
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Only real upgrade from a 12th gen is 14th, and as a user of it I don't recommend it. Incredibly unstable even after all the BIOS updates. A 14th gen CPU can support a 5.0 GPU and SSD, but a 12th gen can do one or the other.
 
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