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If there was anything to the Epstein documents, they would have leaked already.

So, if you study the history of the intelligence agencies, you'll find that is so far from the truth it's hilarious. I bought that book CHAOS because of someone's recommendation here. It's an interesting book about Manson written a few years ago. It uncovers some new evidence, including documents, which have never been known before.

One of these was related to MKULTRA and flat out shows the documents the CIA released (the few which weren't destroyed by the agency) during the Church Committee by the Senate were flat out fabrications to further hide the truth. By the end of the book, which is fairly well-written, we're still left wondering, wtf was Manson getting up to? I think it's highly likely it was something rather than nothing.
 
Did Epstein have a formal list or was this just assumed? What's the point of having a master list of clients?
What’s the point of having a master list of clients for your billion dollar child sex trafficking business, almost all of whom you’ve personally hosted on your private island?

Yeah. You’re right, I can’t think of any reason why you’d have a list of your clients for such a business
 
Oh that's some beautiful shit right there. I hope the feds make absolutely no secret of his identity, being able to post his name & that photo (especially an uncensored version, if one leaks) will be a fantastic way to shut the shitlibs squealing for #Resistance against Der Orange Fuhrer and harassment/attacks on every Trump voter ever up. Whenever they circlejerk about rioting & launching a turbogay intifada against law enforcement to protect their heckin illegalinos online, they should be made to take a good look at that stone dead nigger and asked if they would like themselves, or their friends/family/any other retard retarded enough to possibly listen to their ranting, to end the same way.
We all know it will only cause more leftist lemmings to screech even louder and ignore the fact that the dead asshole was firing on legitimate law-enforcement personnel in the course of their legal duties, and to fearmonger even more. "THEY'LL HUNT YOU DOWN AND MURDER YOU 20-ON-1 LIKE THEY DID TO TACTICAL JUAN!!!!"
 
Ethan could just have a fucked sleep schedule
That too. It would be impossible to tell then.

But I think ethan is a shitlib. I don't think he larps as a shitlib but is secretly a magachud online on a gossip forum. That's retarded to do. Hurr durr I was just pretending to be a shitlib while living in a shitlib hive.
 
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"What you see before you is the perpetual lie. A lie meant to keep you from knowing the truth.
A truth that nearly 90% of your leaders are on that list. A list that would cause a war.
A war that has no winners, only losers. Where sides/factions are a free for all. Total Chaos..."
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70+ years ago, Patton realized we fought the wrong enemy. He was ultimately killed for that revelation.

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Here we are 70+ years later, most realize that there will be no voting our way out from evil from the same ones that killed him.

"Si vis pacem, para bellum"

This is just going to cause one, mark my words. Keep up with the Middle East bs, lying to Vets with nothing to lose and someone gonna go full retard.
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you guys ever looked into Pattons death? fucker was creamed by a FRIENDLY supply truck that, according to witnesses, just deviated from its course last second and slammed into the side of the staff car with Patton in it. Guy driving was said to be intoxicated but get this, no punishment ever happened to the soldier in question. Just look at the crash image, its clear where the driver was "aiming"

Patton was so freaking tough he survived the initial crash and was transported to a hospital where he died under extremely dubious circumstances. This Mark Felton video is a phenomenal watch and highley worth it if you have 20 mins to spare. Felton is a faggot brit but I will vouch for him being one of the most knowledgeable people about ww2 of our time as well as having a consummate understanding of geopolitics and modern military strategy, he really breaks down how and why Patton would have been "bumped" off. he was LOUDLY and often saying in big speeches that we fought the wrong enemy and communism was the real bad guy. Personally I think this gives far to much credit to the "jews are the secret bad guys" argument, the idea that after getting shwockwickded by Germany for over a decade the Mossad just sprang into action and got Americas most revered and respected 4 star general killed in broad daylight is aburd to me in the extreme, the idea a very powerful group of rich assholes dident know they wanted to make commies the boggie man yet waxed him to stop any kind of questioning of their power structure, they dident want an American Caesar no matter what ideology he held.
While I'm not going FatPacks level doompill, the Epstein stuff does seem to make one thing very clear to me. Either the Trump administration is far weaker and can't reign in these institutions, and unlike the first term, they're now actively hostile towards him; or they made some kind of deal.
They killed the most popular president of all time in brod daylight in the heart of Texas then fed us the most blatant lie about it and we all nodded our heads and moved on.

I was super excited going into trumps second admin, I was confident his admin had the ability to be so tight that all the "silos" within the CIA or FBI would be so outnumbered and ostracized that all the walls would start to fall.

First major disillusionment was the JFK nothingburger, GENUINE nothing, when all it would take is the President or AG compelling the Senate Judiciary committee to reveal all the warren commission findings FULLY unredacted, you cant give me ONE reason ANY of the information should be obfuscated over half a century removed?

Its not just that I NEED Trump to give us that info, its that he said he would, he tried, and he simply couldent. I dont think the fucker lied to us, ill bet he would if he could but they sat him down and explained what they explain to every president I imagine, "Mr president, we cant give you that information because it would compromise the security of the nation, blah blah blah"

All comms coming in and out of the white house or any federal communication via nipernet or somthing similar is on a delay for MULTIPLE reasons. When Trump hits "tweet" or whatever it is on truth, those packets are being routed to a host of government supercomputers that have ALL kinds of administrators, firewalls, IPS and IDS and physical checks. All that to say there is no way for the President to get a message out to the people without it first being compromised by the "tech guys' who are under orders from Lord knows who. Even TV broadcasts are on a delay to avoid Broadcasting a terror attack or something like that but in reality to stop trump just in the middle of the speech starting to shout "It all rigged, there are people above me running the show and they are threatning my family with violence if I dont coperate" they just cut the feed before any of it gets out and then suddenly the story is just that "Old Mr trump had a Senior moment and all the people who claim to be attentends at the rally sharing outlandish tales of what was said are spreading a dangerous and wrong conspiracy theroy designed to weaken our nation at this troubling time"

If I wasent so jaded I might weep a few bitter tears for the death of truth in my nation, but the reality is that it died so very long ago, and now its just a Monday afternoon...
 
So, if you study the history of the intelligence agencies, you'll find that is so far from the truth it's hilarious. I bought that book CHAOS because of someone's recommendation here. It's an interesting book about Manson written a few years ago. It uncovers some new evidence, including documents, which have never been known before.

One of these was related to MKULTRA and flat out shows the documents the CIA released (the few which weren't destroyed by the agency) during the Church Committee by the Senate were flat out fabrications to further hide the truth. By the end of the book, which is fairly well-written, we're still left wondering, wtf was Manson getting up to? I think it's highly likely it was something rather than nothing.
Church committee also shows that James Jesus Angleton helped Israel get nukes iirc

CIA declassified files are a trip, Project Stargate in particular is interesting

 
Lmao thinking the haredim are a clerical caste. They don't recognize the government other than getting gibs and they get the same gibs as Arabs but somehow they're an elite caste endorsed by the government? Why is the government trying to conscript haredim if they're part of a clerical caste?
The Ashkenazi chief rabbi is haredi. The Israeli government delegates marriages, divorce, bris and kashrut through the State Rabbinical Authority. They're absolutely a caste of clerics literally ruling over everyone less haredi than them. The high court even had to pry kashrut certification out of their hands because it was such a moneymaking scam. https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/restaurant-rebels-put-israels-kosher-racket-under-the-grill/
 
So, if you study the history of the intelligence agencies, you'll find that is so far from the truth it's hilarious. I bought that book CHAOS because of someone's recommendation here. It's an interesting book about Manson written a few years ago. It uncovers some new evidence, including documents, which have never been known before.

One of these was related to MKULTRA and flat out shows the documents the CIA released (the few which weren't destroyed by the agency) during the Church Committee by the Senate were flat out fabrications to further hide the truth. By the end of the book, which is fairly well-written, we're still left wondering, wtf was Manson getting up to? I think it's highly likely it was something rather than nothing.
Thank you for illustrating my point for me by going from Jeffrey Epstein to talking about Charles Manson and the Church Committee.

You do realize that committee was led by a Democrat who was the protégé of LBJ, right? You don't think that presents any issues?
 
We all know it will only cause more leftist lemmings to screech even louder and ignore the fact that the dead asshole was firing on legitimate law-enforcement personnel in the course of their legal duties, and to fearmonger even more. "THEY'LL HUNT YOU DOWN AND MURDER YOU 20-ON-1 LIKE THEY DID TO TACTICAL JUAN!!!!"
Well and good. In fact that seems like it would be a great opportunity to deploy a tactical 'Gigachad Says' meme, like so:

"THEY'LL HUNT YOU DOWN AND MURDER YOU 20-ON-1 LIKE THEY DID TO TACTICAL JUAN!!!!"
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The Ashkenazi chief rabbi is haredi. The Israeli government delegates marriages, divorce, bris and kashrut through the State Rabbinical Authority. They're absolutely a caste of clerics literally ruling over everyone less haredi than them. The high court even had to pry kashrut certification out of their hands because it was such a moneymaking scam. https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/restaurant-rebels-put-israels-kosher-racket-under-the-grill/
holdover of the turkish millet system, the Muslims/Druze/Bahai/few sects of Christians have their own organizations like this

the only people who pay attention to them are other religious Jews and you're free to ignore them if you want (hence why secular Israelis get married through Utah or go to cyprus to get married)
 
Church committee also shows that James Jesus Angleton helped Israel get nukes iirc

So I learned. I was only vaguely aware but have now become more interested, mostly in the relationship of Mossad and CIA to each other in the very earliest days and before both were formalized. Your primary interests are Israel 2010 to 2020, right? Anything specific?

You don't think that presents any issues?

Obv. But that wasn't the point of my comment. My point is, if you study the history of intelligence, you know that even today, after decades, with multiple major events, the public has near zero idea what the truth was. We even argue about it as political aware weirdos, regarding these events. It's simply not true that any of it would have leaked, and personally, I think there's a far different game going on here.
 
If there was anything to the Epstein documents, they would have leaked already. You fuckers really believe that the Biden administration had its hands on documents that could destroy the GOP in one fell swoop, but chose not to use it? You fuckers really believe that the Trump administration has its hands on documents that could destroy the Democrats in one fell swoop, but choose not to use it? Get the fuck out of here.
You are fuckign retarded, utterly and completely retarded sometimes. Couple of things, it's mutual assured destruction, the names on that "list" would end political parties in the US, and the UK, and probably snuff out a couple oil sheiks in the middle east. Prince andrew is a KNOWN kid fucker, MBS's family is heavily rumored to be on the list, Clinton, Gates, Hoffman, Schiff, and countless others are rumored. You think Jeffery was only looking for blackmail on one party? Get real man, you are smarter than that.

Personally, I keep coming back to one thought, how Trump was talking about locking hillary up before the election, but how it just sort of faded after in 2017, and he made some statement about moving forward and not back. He didn't want to rip the country apart. That keeps bouncing around in my retarded head.
 
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