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Church committee also shows that James Jesus Angleton helped Israel get nukes iirc

So I learned. I was only vaguely aware but have now become more interested, mostly in the relationship of Mossad and CIA to each other in the very earliest days and before both were formalized. Your primary interests are Israel 2010 to 2020, right? Anything specific?

You don't think that presents any issues?

Obv. But that wasn't the point of my comment. My point is, if you study the history of intelligence, you know that even today, after decades, with multiple major events, the public has near zero idea what the truth was. We even argue about it as political aware weirdos, regarding these events. It's simply not true that any of it would have leaked, and personally, I think there's a far different game going on here.
 
If there was anything to the Epstein documents, they would have leaked already. You fuckers really believe that the Biden administration had its hands on documents that could destroy the GOP in one fell swoop, but chose not to use it? You fuckers really believe that the Trump administration has its hands on documents that could destroy the Democrats in one fell swoop, but choose not to use it? Get the fuck out of here.
You are fuckign retarded, utterly and completely retarded sometimes. Couple of things, it's mutual assured destruction, the names on that "list" would end political parties in the US, and the UK, and probably snuff out a couple oil sheiks in the middle east. Prince andrew is a KNOWN kid fucker, MBS's family is heavily rumored to be on the list, Clinton, Gates, Hoffman, Schiff, and countless others are rumored. You think Jeffery was only looking for blackmail on one party? Get real man, you are smarter than that.

Personally, I keep coming back to one thought, how Trump was talking about locking hillary up before the election, but how it just sort of faded after in 2017, and he made some statement about moving forward and not back. He didn't want to rip the country apart. That keeps bouncing around in my retarded head.
 
So I learned. I was only vaguely aware but have now become more interested, mostly in the relationship of Mossad and CIA to each other in the very earliest days and before both were formalized. Your primary interests are Israel 2010 to 2020, right? Anything specific?
I know the most about that specific era but I'm generally familiar with the history. My biggest gap is the 1950s and 1990s
 
You are fuckign retarded, utterly and completely retarded sometimes. Couple of things, it's mutual assured destruction
The issue with leaking that shit but only leaking the shit for one political party is that those people who just got exposed would then expose the opposite party since they would know by memory who was on that list. No matter what, the whole system would fucking implode and there would be TONS of assassinations
 
The reason people keep bringing up the Epstein thing is because the intelligence community and the current administration (and Musk I guess) keeps bringing it up. For six months the Epstein client list has been dangled like a set of jingling keys by Kash Patel and various other feds multiple times, which then gets posted in this thread, and then consequently leads to people ITT expressing their dissatisfaction with how opaque the situation remains when those politicians inevitably cuck out of actually doing or saying anything of substance. The government has been doing ridiculous theater kid shit since February whenever Epstein comes up, that warrants criticism.

Whatever the truth is, we're never going to see it in our lifetime for the same reason why the FBI and justice department have "confirmed" that Jeffrey Epstein's death was a suicide. Politicians, celebs, and heads of state aren't going to self report. If TPTB wanted you to know, you'd know.
 
why are so many people here defending Trumps decision to cover for Epstein?
Because they will do the same shit they accuse their equally ideologically controlled opposition of doing without a shred of self-awareness, and hurl mindless invective at you should you point it out.
If Trump failed on this one thing, that's on him.
Yeah well, that's not really the implication here is it? You say this as if he failed a minor campaign promise, rather than failing to do something that in reality should be incredibly easy for him to do by his own account on the campaign trail, and with this:
>Promised to release files on day one, didn't.
>Had AG come out and say some stupid shit about protecting victims, as if the perps didn't already know their victims and as if the country wouldn't come together to defend them when they're outed, making the redaction narrative nonsensical.
>Has his FBI heads Kash Patel and Dan Bongino bafflingly come out and say Epstein in fact did kill himself, and they have video that can't possibly exist to prove it, conveniently as AI tools have gotten good enough to fake such a video... and still didn't release this alleged video by the date they said they would.
>Has his bestie (archive) Musk:

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come out and confirm that the reason Trump has had his people delay and give excuses, is because he's directly implicated. It being Musk there's immense credibility to the accusation given how close they were by Trump's own account until incredibly recently.
>Could defuse this by immediately releasing the Epstein files, doesn't.

Yeah bros I'm sure he's totally innocent and he uh, just has good reasons or whatever.

Bonus round the logic that 'well if he was in it the Democrats would've used it' is bunk because they not only did, if you forgot the talking point that he was on the list too has been in use for months now, but also the logic cuts both ways, if he is truly innocent and the only people implicated are his enemies, there's no good reason to keep them under lock and key from the public.
all considered, plus the most recent Patel JRE interview, yeah it looks super fucking bad. Way worse than a minor campaign promise being unfulfilled.

It looks even worse to have people just accept it rather than being pissed off enough that the admin has to do something about it. Because apparently holding someone you voted for's feet to the fire is for faggots, or something.
If TPTB wanted you to know, you'd know.
We've fully gone from 'drain the swamp' to 'accept the stink' now, I take it? Cool.
 
Obv. But that wasn't the point of my comment. My point is, if you study the history of intelligence, you know that even today, after decades, with multiple major events, the public has near zero idea what the truth was. We even argue about it as political aware weirdos, regarding these events. It's simply not true that any of it would have leaked, and personally, I think there's a far different game going on here.
You are giving intelligence services way too much credit.
You are fuckign retarded, utterly and completely retarded sometimes. Couple of things, it's mutual assured destruction, the names on that "list" would end political parties in the US, and the UK, and probably snuff out a couple oil sheiks in the middle east. Prince andrew is a KNOWN kid fucker, MBS's family is heavily rumored to be on the list, Clinton, Gates, Hoffman, Schiff, and countless others are rumored. You think Jeffery was only looking for blackmail on one party? Get real man, you are smarter than that.

Personally, I keep coming back to one thought, how Trump was talking about locking hillary up before the election, but how it just sort of faded after in 2017, and he made some statement about moving forward and not back. He didn't want to rip the country apart. That keeps bouncing around in my retarded head.
Considering all the retarded, short-sighted shit that the Democrats do (like all the lawfare against Trump), I don't think they understand what "mutually assured destruction" means. Besides, all you've posted here is rumor and speculation. I'm not saying Epstein, or Prince Andrew, or the Saudis, or whomever are innocent - it's pretty blatantly obvious that all of these people are up to some sketchy shit - but the reaching and theorizing people do about Epstein's patrons gets tiresome after a while. If that makes me "fuckign" retarded, then so be it, but I would rather see evidence than go down the same old rabbit holes.

"Lock her up" was always a meme. A fun one, but a meme.
 
The reason people keep bringing up the Epstein thing is because the intelligence community and the current administration (and Musk I guess) keeps bringing it up.

I've said it seemed almost 100% intentional how they bungled the Epstein thing and then they keep bringing it up. I've also mentioned I think "they" were discarding Donboi in a similar way they did Bush (but will later use his mythos when he's out) because the narrative would get too hard to sustain long term anyway.

With that in mind I'd venture to guess the fight between Musk and Donny is fake but Epstein is being used as this final limited hangout to justify funneling off everyone into this new party, which is basically just police state globalism technocracy unmasked.
 
all considered, plus the most recent Patel JRE interview, yeah it looks super fucking bad. Way worse than a minor campaign promise being unfulfilled.

It looks even worse to have people just accept it rather than being pissed off enough that the admin has to do something about it. Because apparently holding someone you voted for's feet to the fire is for faggots, or something.
I never said it was a minor campaign promise.

What do you want the populous to do? Vote for the opposition? At least with Trump we have a chance. I'd rather have A chance than have a party actively try to make America into an economic zone / third world nation.
 
holdover of the turkish millet system, the Muslims/Druze/Bahai/few sects of Christians have their own organizations like this
The British Mandate also recognized a Mufti of Jerusalem, so they recognized a Chief Rabbi.
the only people who pay attention to them are other religious Jews and you're free to ignore them if you want (hence why secular Israelis get married through Utah or go to cyprus to get married)
Ah yes, having to be married abroad because the rabbinate has no power and no one pays attention to them. Restauranteurs taking a case to the highest court so they can say their food is kosher without paying into a racket is the common people paying attention. Kibbutzim listing rental houses with a non-religious tenant stipulation, which on further questioning is really a non-haredi stipulation, is people noticing. I wonder if you understand the words you type sometimes.
 
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