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For TNO's US plans, when do you expect them to release it? The devs have said late next year which we know won't happen. They had a lot done for Penelope's Web back in 2021 but nothing on it now, could this update go the same way? If they do get it out, do you think it will be a buggy, bloated mess or could they get it to work?
 
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For TNO's US plans, when do you expect them to release it? The devs have said late next which we know won't happen. They had a lot done for Penelope's Web back in 2021 back nothing on it now, could this update go the same way? If they do get it out, do you think it will be a buggy, bloated mess or could they get it to work?
Best case scenario this gets split into a billion parts and part one that has content for nixon and like 1 or 2 dems/republican alternatives gets released next year before paradox decides to push out a dlc and everything gets put on ice forever
 
For TNO's US plans, when do you expect them to release it? The devs have said late next which we know won't happen. They had a lot done for Penelope's Web back in 2021 back nothing on it now, could this update go the same way? If they do get it out, do you think it will be a buggy, bloated mess or could they get it to work?
Call me high on Copium but I might say I trust their 2026 release and I think for once we may even see a golden age here! As in we get to shit on TNO more again. Now lemme explain. Ever since Panzer got kicked the problem with TNO is its a separate game. What Panzer wanted for the game is different from what the new guys wanted. Essentially TNO had to be built from the ground up. Now we've rightfully complained about it and how its like yanderesim BUT this might be a light in the dark. With all the Vooootepig retardation having gone through ewe might see TNO update like a regular mod again.

Essentially they had to rebuild TNO and re-release it as its not the TNO that Panzer made in 2020. This is the TNO of 2026 made by nu-Devs. Will it be ass? You've seen me bitch about Haiti and what I posted about the USA team lead. Its going to be flaming hot garbage of the hottest and blackest tar coal BUT it will be released. So that now they de panzerified it there is nothing left to kill and the Devs can make Nu-TNO in their design. Its why almost EVERYTHING is being gutted. Atlantaropa, Italy, Congo lake, Russian warlords, USA, Japan and its ports, you name it! Its all to make what they think TNO should have been.
 
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Essentially they had to rebuild TNO and re-release it as its not the TNO that Panzer made in 2020. This is the TNO of 2026 made by nu-Devs. Will it be ass? You've seen me bitch about Haiti and what I posted about the USA team lead. Its going to be flaming hot garbage of the hottest and blackest tar coal BUT it will be released. So that now they de panzerified it there is nothing left to kill and the Devs can make Nu-TNO in their design. Its why almost EVERYTHING is being gutted. Atlantaropa, Italy, Congo lake, Russian warlords, USA, Japan and its ports, you name it! Its all o make what they think TNO should have been.
It's good for us that @GoodWinSon is preserving Panzers autistic vision. I think we talked about this in the thread before but Yockey was the only US president who could invade Japan and liberate their entire sphere provided he didn't invade the home isles, when will TNORA get around to implementing this?
 
It's good for us that @GoodWinSon is preserving Panzers autistic vision. I think we talked about this in the thread before but Yockey was the only US president who could invade Japan and liberate their entire sphere provided he didn't invade the home isles, when will TNORA get around to implementing this?
I will miss Panzer's autism. I am curious to see where nu-TNO will go mostly because of how batshit it is like America chucking Brit Bongs into the ocean. A shame really since if Panzer remained in charge we could have gotten peak KINO of militarist neo-liberal OFN/America in their crusade against the brown menace given he changed to be a neo-liberal NATO supporter when Ruzzia invaded Ukraine.

Instead we get your typical KR/TLM anti-America slop that would actually fit better in TRO or CWIC but what can you do? If goodwinson needs it I still have the documents of their plans for Yockey and Hall. Though truthfully speaking wish I could find some autistic teenagers with attitude to write TNO events again. If something like Glenn was made by an autistic high schooler and lets be real that was all of old TNO, then to capture the same writing style and events we need to outsource to child labor.
 
Someone made a Terry Davis mod.
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Uh oh, the Latinx are invading TFR now.
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TFR devs, DO NOT INTEGRATE ANY LATINX SUBMOD! You'll just get boring election gameplay with barely any wars. That's what happened with TrooNO the moment they integrated the Latinx submod, they caught the Campaign Trail virus of yet again more boring election "gameplay".
Unless Maduro can invade all of Spanish-speaking South America a-la Gaddafi and unite it, I'm not interested. then again, we're talking about mountain warfare, so still not interested.
 
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For TNO's US plans, when do you expect them to release it? The devs have said late next year which we know won't happen. They had a lot done for Penelope's Web back in 2021 but nothing on it now, could this update go the same way? If they do get it out, do you think it will be a buggy, bloated mess or could they get it to work?
VotePig Yippie appears to be the update with the most time in the oven so far, I'd even believe that 2026 could be the year it comes out. The crop of the lead dev committee (LeDeCo?) cream appear to be directly involved, so a new proposal can't just derail it like it could derail Moskowien for 9 times. I'd be surprised if they would even consider a new proposal.

There's also no fucking way that content for a major superpower like the USA will get split into a million pieces like content for Brazil or Mexico. If that happens, I will do a TNO-related freestyle over a Lil Wayne beat.

Uh oh, the Latinx are invading TFR now.
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TFR devs, DO NOT INTEGRATE ANY LATINX SUBMOD! You'll just get boring election gameplay with barely any wars. That's what happened with TrooNO the moment they integrated the Latinx submod, they caught the Campaign Trail virus of yet again more boring election "gameplay".
TFR devs, PLEASE INTEGRATE THIS. Venezuela deserves content more than Japan.
 
Uh oh, the Latinx are invading TFR now.
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TFR devs, DO NOT INTEGRATE ANY LATINX SUBMOD! You'll just get boring election gameplay with barely any wars. That's what happened with TrooNO the moment they integrated the Latinx submod, they caught the Campaign Trail virus of yet again more boring election "gameplay".
Is this what the Brazil dev(s) joined?
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Maybe Venezuela election leading to civil war (basically mirroring the US) with the neighboring nations meddling in it, which can then lead to an all out war inside SA?
TBH I feel like HOI4 mods end up having too many civil wars.
 
Uh oh, the Latinx are invading TFR now.
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TFR devs, DO NOT INTEGRATE ANY LATINX SUBMOD! You'll just get boring election gameplay with barely any wars. That's what happened with TrooNO the moment they integrated the Latinx submod, they caught the Campaign Trail virus of yet again more boring election "gameplay".
"Let them in just a Big Trump said,they where already pirating the game for almost 10 years nad if they don´t cause trouble and are hard workers(For free off course) i think they deserve the right to being integrated in the Mod they gained that right,as long as they come with Fun paths and Legal code i support their cause",#NoVenezuelan ever called me an Incel"
 
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VotePig Yippie appears to be the update with the most time in the oven so far, I'd even believe that 2026 could be the year it comes out. The crop of the lead dev committee (LeDeCo?) cream appear to be directly involved, so a new proposal can't just derail it like it could derail Moskowien for 9 times. I'd be surprised if they would even consider a new proposal.

There's also no fucking way that content for a major superpower like the USA will get split into a million pieces like content for Brazil or Mexico. If that happens, I will do a TNO-related freestyle over a Lil Wayne beat.


TFR devs, PLEASE INTEGRATE THIS. Venezuela deserves content more than Japan.
I am like 98% sure that Votepig is the American team lead. He got most of what he wanted albeit not his European stuff. As he was the one that had the genius plan to have America nuke Amsterdam to flood the Rhine to fuck up German logistics despite the fact this is unlikely and the city is no where near the Rhine I think people here pointed out. However its still going to be slop, as we saw how he not only sees America as an evil, he also has the historical illiteracy of why America is more pissed off at Japan than Germany. The country that attacked American soil. Honestly the Dutch and Japan thing should have made them throw him out of the mod team but would rather have slop at this point then just radio silence. We can at least make fun of slop.
 
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Well I just missed a lot. A few days and I miss out on the further desecration of TNO and discussion of tartars vs cossacks?

Anyway detentes are implemented. Here's all the one's I've coded though some of them you can't get yet
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Detentes give you prestige as well as a helpful idea
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I've also given Italy their own faction after the Triumviate dies. They technically can make their own faction if they remain fascist, but that's just a part of a random focus the ai almost never takes. There's a few benefits to this gameplay and flavor wise.
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#Additions
-The Superpower Ranking System has been implemented. Major nations can now compete to be the hegemon of the world!
-A new resource: Prestige. Gain it from winning wars and completing impressive feats, but what can be gained can be lost as well. Higher prestige will be crucial for
climbing the ranks.
-Detente: Come to an agreement with your Superpower rivals for mutual benefit. They can be broken when convenient but be aware there is a cost to betrayal.
#Changes
-Various events, national focuses, and wars now grant or remove Prestige
-Italy will now form it's own faction after the collapse of the triumviate
-The Battle for Italy will now result in a detente rather than full alliance if Japan or America manage to win
#Bug Fixes
-AI Bormann should no longer spam espionage operations at russian tags
-Warlords should now be able to raid each other and take raid related decisions
-The interface, especially regarding air forces, has been cleaned up and should no longer cause crashes
#Notes
-For now I am going to be working on bug fixes, balance changes, and some tweaks to Heydrich before I move on to Speer and Bormann
Except there's already a supreme court mechanic?
I''m already seeing Predditors on the TFR subreddit talking about how the mod is pro-Z, plus them levying bad content like the NSM on Czar and his circle reminds me of the Frontier for New Vegas saying all the fetish shit was the work of a few people that got kicked out. The RU-TFR dev lead is from Lugansk so he's seen Xoxols bomb the two regions for the last 10 years while shitlib media has been singing the praises of Poroshenko and Zelensky to ZOGbots in the West. Now when those ZOGbots who more likely than not already hate RuZZia for not letting trannies and fags roam free come into contact with something that challenges their narrative, no matter where it originates from, they feel that they HAVE to change it. Now sprinkle that in with Discord and I suspect the RU-TFR team will get Shoah'd and be replaced by a team of queers from Berlin, Kyif, and Portland to REWOOOOOOOORK Russia's content.
You do have to admit though their is an undeniable Russia bias considering each Russia path has 30 "literal who" subpaths while potentially interesting countries like Libya and the UK don't have playable content.
don't want to be a contrarian for the sake of it, but TFR's Russia feels like a massively missed opportunity. It's definitely a product of its time in terms of its setup - The content is based off the idea that the only way for things to happen in Russia is for Putin to die and that Putinism is somehow anti-nationalist and definitely not authoritarian (both entirely understandable premises before 2022). United Russia and Putin's circle is treated as this one amalgous blob that all rally behind Medvedev as their guy who they back until the end where the really interesting part of a post-Putin Russia would be the various power struggles inside YR. Instead of one Medvedev path with various "endings" that have other leaders, the main paths for Russia should branch off figures like Mistushin, Zolotov, Shoigu, Naryshkin, Bortnikov (reshuffle the deck with others as needed) and that's if Putin doesn't die (Putin should be the primary path for Russia IMO). Honestly, the opposition (especially the systemic opposition like KPRF and LDPR) shouldn't get paths before 1EW. Liberal opposition would prevent the European Wars and other forms are too weak, systemic opposition wouldn't even factor into anything really. KPRF, LDPR and SR are only capable of influencing and steering Putin's policy, but not replacing Putin. SR even essentially gave up the idea of replacing Putin, instead seeking to replace YR because the YR's and Putin's dominance is so cemented. Maybe a SR-led Putin path would be a cool idea as a way to have an alternative Putin.

Now, FWIW, TFR has executed its flawed setup extremely well and is obviously based on different ideals than what I would make in a TFR - I probably wouldn't bother with making Svetov and Dugin paths at all, but I can't deny that TFR has managed to make it more interesting than I would first think.
Eh, I don't mind the Russian political paths since it's more in the spirit of fun than anything else. The most unrealistic part of TfR is that Medvedev is actually competent.
Medvedev was supposed to be the face of the Russian government while Putin pulled the strings from behind. This is probably the easiest job in the world and Medvedev couldn't handle it. He was so bad at his job that Putin realized (correctly) that none of his allies could be trusted to act as a leader (even a figurehead) which is why he decided to just become an eternal president.

For instance, Medvedev okayed the overthrow of Gaddafi without informing Putin. He went over the boss's head to act like a retard and has never been entrusted with anything important since.

When Putin dies there will be a power struggle, but Medvedev is not even in the cards for succession, not even as a puppet.

As an aside, Putin was partially put in place partially because a few of the more powerful Russian oligarchs believed he could be a malleable puppet himself. This was woefully incorrect, and those that did not bend the knee were either exiled or killed.
 
You do have to admit though their is an undeniable Russia bias considering each Russia path has 30 "literal who" subpaths while potentially interesting countries like Libya and the UK don't have playable content.
It's the illusion of more content, really. to implement a new leader all you need is a short 8-10 focus long politics tree and even then some trees (Like the hardline United Russia between Shoigu and Volodin) are shared, either that or the RU-TFR team have more resources to work with to add more content. As for the Yookay and Libya, the Anglos did have some content but it was cut because it wasn't up to standard and the current TFR dev team want to remove Gaddafi for some reason, apparently he was added in by John Titor and they already removed his superevent.
 
I think we talked about this in the thread before but Yockey was the only US president who could invade Japan and liberate their entire sphere provided he didn't invade the home isles, when will TNORA get around to implementing this?
Forgot to answer this! I will add America's attack when I start working on China + Japan. That will be after I finish Speer and Bormann, so you will probably have to wait a little while.
the current TFR dev team want to remove Gaddafi for some reason, apparently he was added in by John Titor and they already removed his superevent.
"Everything the last guy did is automatically bad" is some soviet tier logic.
 
Anyway detentes are implemented. Here's all the one's I've coded though some of them you can't get yet
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So which nations are which détentes? Also I like Italy getting its own faction after the Triumvirate falls if it remains fascist, never made sense for the US or Japan to battle for influence in an Italy still dominated by Mussolini's ideals.

Except there's already a supreme court mechanic?
"You don't understand, we need to make the politics of the major powers needlessly complicated for our mod!"
 
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