CN My Volvo Lost Brakes And Crashed After Software Update - We are sorry, braking is no longer supported in this software version, please update to the latest version.

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Source: Carscoops Archive: Ghost

Brake failure isn’t something most drivers expect, especially in a brand-new vehicle. But a recent incident involving a Volvo plug-in hybrid highlighted a software flaw serious enough to be at the center of a recall affecting nearly 12,000 vehicles. The problem, already identified by Volvo, surfaced in dramatic fashion after a troubling incident on a mountain road in California, and the driver involved reached out to Carscoops to share the details firsthand.

The owner, a California resident we’ll refer to as Max for privacy reasons, provided his full name and documentation to Carscoops. He reported a complete loss of braking and a subsequent crash while descending a steep mountain in his two-month-old Volvo XC90 PHEV. What made the situation more unsettling was that he had just received a software update at his local dealership.

As it turns out, Max’s vehicle is one of thousands affected by a recent recall warning drivers not to use one-pedal driving or B-mode. The recall covers the S60, V60, S90, XC60, XC90, XC40, EX40, EC40, and C40 models from the 2020 to 2026 model years. This same driver gave us a firsthand look at just how frightening the failure can be.

A Known Bug With a Very Specific Trigger
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The issue occurred on May 13 and involved a Volvo XC90 Recharge that was running software version 3.5.14. We’ll circle back to that shortly, but it’s important to first point out that 3.5.14 is the same version that Volvo cautioned drivers about a few weeks ago. The problem included the loss of braking power after a driver engaged B-mode or one-pedal driving.

At the time, it specifically said that the issue only happens after “coasting downhill for at least 1 minute and 40 seconds.” That sounded oddly specific, and we pointed out at the time that it would be rare for most drivers to do that. Clearly, it wasn’t rare enough to avoid a recall, and now we know why: at least one driver experienced it firsthand and sent us the documentation to prove it.

The Harrowing Experience

As the driver descended a mountainside on Corona Road in Carmel Highlands, California, they used B-mode. The road is narrow, and a drop-off sits on the passenger side of the car the entire way down. A dashcam and an onboard data recorder captured data throughout the entire ordeal.

Here’s how the driver described the event to Carscoops: “The brakes on my 2-month-old XC90 completely failed. This was just a few hours after receiving the software update version 3.5.14 at an authorized Volvo dealer. I was driving down a steep, narrow mountain road and was forced to steer off the road into the side of a hill to avoid going over a cliff.”

Roughly 1:40 into the descent, the vehicle begins to speed up without throttle input. Data from the onboard recorder shows that the service brake is on, but the car continues to speed up. At this stage, the driver simply wanted to avoid picking up any more speed, so they drove up onto the hill on the left.

Dirt flies, the car rocks, and then returns to the roadway. Thankfully, the brakes engage again, and the car stops, but the damage is done. Some airbags deployed, the front driver’s side wheel, tire, and suspension suffered damage, and the occupants were shaken up. In fact, the impact was so hard that the wheel itself split into pieces. Additional damage was done to the undercarriage.

Max later brought in a forensic accident reconstruction engineer to review the onboard data and footage. Their conclusion? “The Pre-Crash data corroborates [the driver’s] story that the vehicle brakes were not responding while coming down the hill. The speed increases in the five seconds prior to impact; there is no throttle application, but there is service brake application the entire time and no slowing down.”

Volvo Responds, But Concerns Remain
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After reviewing the findings, we contacted Volvo for comment. The company responded with the following:

Safety is a top priority for Volvo Cars, and we are treating this incident seriously.


A recall was recently issued on certain plug-in hybrid and pure electric Volvo cars to address braking functionality that could potentially be affected after at least 1 minute 30 seconds of coasting downhill in ‘B’ mode or One Pedal Drive without applying the brake pedal. A review of the onboard data from this customer’s car indicates this scenario applied at the time of the incident, and we are working closely with them to rectify the situation.

We provided a software fix for this issue earlier in June and ask all owners with impacted vehicles to download the latest over-the-air update or take their vehicle to their nearest authorized Volvo Cars retailer to correct the issue. If they have not yet had the corrective software installed, they should not select ‘B’ mode or One Pedal Drive while driving.”


After inspecting the vehicle on June 27, Volvo told the owner it had completed repairs and installed the latest software update. It confirmed those repairs would be covered under warranty. Still, Max wasn’t satisfied with the company’s statement. “We almost died and they don’t even say they’re sorry,” he said, calling it a “lame response.”

Unanswered Questions

Volvo has actively engaged with Carscoops throughout our investigation, but there are still some unanswered questions. For example, we’re still waiting on an official chronology report to the NHTSA to understand how the company became aware of this issue.

We still don’t know exactly what it is about software version 3.5.14 that triggers the malfunction. It’s also notable that Volvo’s original guidance mentioned the failure could occur after one minute and forty seconds of coasting downhill. That threshold has since been revised to one minute and thirty seconds, a small but curious change that adds to the unanswered questions.

For now, owners included in the recall need to be very diligent. They either have to make sure that they’ve updated their software beyond 3.5.14, or avoid one-pedal driving or B-mode. It could save not just their cars but, much more importantly, their lives, and that’s what really matters to all parties involved here.

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Pearl clutching assholes being worried about retarded drivers (and teenagers) causing massive accidents and dying in the process over their stupid decisions on the road.
Now every new car needs hundreds of safety feature where your car must be connected to the internet so the steering wheel can automatically adjust itself because its freaking out that you haven't turned on your signal yet.
You'll have to actually read that manual if you want to turn that shit off but even then I don't think they'll even give you a choice anymore and will just force you to use it even if you are a highly experienced driver.
On a hybrid or EV you have to have electronic control of the brakes for regenerative braking. The vehicles would not work as a concept without it. Conventional vehicles don’t have brake by wire yet, AFAIK. Drive by wire is for engine performance, nothing to do with safety. The manufacturers actually aren’t stupid.

Root cause looks to be a software issue and not engineering anyway. That is, if a problem arises only from a software update, the original design of the car can’t be to blame.
 
Im a V70/v70XC/and Xc70 simp even if the last couple were built under Geely. Good engine, good interior, good exterior, reliable, safe, make you think what direction they would have gone if not for the Chinese.
Sure, they are good cars, my main criteria are "made in Sweden" and rear wheel drive. Volvo engines between 1960s-1990s are just a dream to work on and indestructabe.
 
Sure, they are good cars, my main criteria are "made in Sweden" and rear wheel drive. Volvo engines between 1960s-1990s are just a dream to work on and indestructabe.
And now like everything else they are shit. People like to blame the boomers for everything starting to fall apart, but really it's the Silent Generations fault for indulging the boomers instead of beating them as kids.
 
And now like everything else they are shit. People like to blame the boomers for everything starting to fall apart, but really it's the Silent Generations fault for indulging the boomers instead of beating them as kids.
I'm not into the whole idea of blaming generations for playing the cards they were dealt with the information they had. It is just the jews playing divide and conquer again. If everyone just blamed the jews we could sort this out.
 
And now like everything else they are shit. People like to blame the boomers for everything starting to fall apart, but really it's the Silent Generations fault for indulging the boomers instead of beating them as kids.
There are plenty of great cars being made today. Most are Toyotas. Drove a couple Chevrolets that have been super solid. Least reliable car I ever had was a Ford.
 
Kike shareholders who want your data and are worried that you are Roman saluting in your car and calling other drivers niggers and or faggots
I've called other drivers niggers, fags, kikes, cunts, spics, old ass fucks, stupid hick bastards and who knows what else. Especially if they ride my ass or go under the speed limit.

Hell, I flipped off some woman because she didn't understand how a 4-way stop works. Gave her teenage son the finger too, just out of principle.
 
I've called other drivers niggers, fags, kikes, cunts, spics, old ass fucks, stupid hick bastards and who knows what else. Especially if they ride my ass or go under the speed limit.

Hell, I flipped off some woman because she didn't understand how a 4-way stop works. Gave her teenage son the finger too, just out of principle.
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