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The accepted solution is and has been white flight, it's sad to abandon areas that used to be nice, but nigger don't wash off.
That was the historical solution, and it's failing now that every inch of land is accounted for and there's nowhere left to flee to, and even when you flee the bureaucratic machine is geared toward punishing this behavior
 
Saying, "it's an idea, not an organization," didn't stop the government from rolling up antifa and throwing people in prison. It kept the American people in confusion when the government refused to roll up antifa and throw people in prison. Those are wildly different things. What kept antifa out of prison wasn't any cutesy little rhetorical tactic, it was having allies inside the federal government, including such high-ranking figures as Merrick Garland. It is critical to understand what antifa actually is. It isn't just a bunch of rowdy leftists. It is the clandestine street terror arm of the government to suppress political dissent among the American people and create showy news events to justify the latest action of the state.
I think it serves to redirect leftist anger at easy low hanging targets instead of actual rich people causing them problems. Every day they are out looting a footlocker or throwing rocks at the cops is another day the rich can relax in their country clubs worry free.
 
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The Proud Boys failed because they didn't have the backing of a major political party. A huge error on the right in those days was not grasping how leftist street terror is backed by the DNC and the parts of the state it controls, nor the significance of this. They thought they could mimic what leftists say their tactics are and get leftist results. But what leftists say they're doing and what they actually do are entirely different things. Look at who AOC says she is vs who she actually is, right down to how she was groomed for power via USAID-funded organizing, for a microcosm of this.
The Dems' greatest strength is their ruthless exploitation of their voters' abject gullibility. They constantly project being the underdog and a third of the country buys it!
 
I'm not going to get into how their intel network is subpar (reality check)
The entire post is third worldist bait that ignores reality but you're the first person I've ever heard argue that the Mossad isn't good at what they do. Even the most retarded Pakistanis don't go this far

I think it serves to redirect leftist anger at easy low hanging targets instead of actual rich people causing them problems. Every day they are out looking a footlocker or throwing rocks at the cops is another day the rich can relax in their country clubs worry free.
See occupy wall st and the weaponization of the progressive stack to cripple it
 
You're mean, I don't move goalposts
That’s merely my perception taken from our interactions. There would be dozens of people here who have a completely different perception of you. Don’t take it personally, I’m just one opinionated asshole, I don’t speak for the universe.

The Proud Boys failed because they didn't have the backing of a major political party. A huge error on the right in those days was not grasping how leftist street terror is backed by the DNC and the parts of the state it controls, nor the significance of this
There’s an entire academic and political industry established to rehabilitate literal Marxist terrorists such as Angela Davis, and memebers of Marxist organizations such as Weather Underground and the Black Panthers.

I keep mentioning Burroughs’ book ‘Days of Rage’. Here’s a rundown on the book plus some very thought-provoking material on the machine that seamlessly reinserts violent left-wing extremists back into politics and academia. A great read.
 
Because they are Orthodox, Catholic or Oriental and the US Christian political power is Protestant.
This is correct. Catholic churches have been talking about the plight of Palestinian Christians for as long as I can remember. A local parish by me routinely has fundraisers where they sell rosaries, crucifixes, and so on made by Palestinians to help support them, but by and large it's not talked about. Same thing with the Egyptian Copts.
 
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Oh I guess my comment forced a human to intervene in the conversation, anyways you're a weirdo faggot and your larpy C.AI bullshit is autistic. Do everyone a favor and tell that ai to pour water on itself and you should an hero alongside it.
I quite literally took a screenshot from the show Johnny Bravo. The fact that you cannot tell AI from a screencap, and aggressively believe it is AI, means you might want to go outside and look at grass. Touching grass might be a little too much for you.

I would bet good money that you're the kind of idiot who thinks all women are trannies because you watch too much porn.
 
Yeah but @soy_king doesn’t constantly come off as the goalpost-moving pilpul-pushing agent of a perception manipulation op.
You could probably learn from his example.


Calling @Dammit Mandrake!
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To speak to my boy's defense, he's got more of a stake in the fight since he's actually Israeli, I'm American. My support for Israel is based on the fact I have some fairly distant relatives living there, I support and love my people regardless of their nationality, and they're a pretty decent ally to the extent our national interests align, especially compared to some of our other "allies" in the region like Qatar, Turkey, and Saudi.
You’re technically correct- they’re not ‘banned’ or ‘illegal’, as much as they are ‘alegal’- they are simply not legally recognized by the state.
They must be performed under the auspices of the faith under which both participants belong in order to be regarded as valid and legal, and obviously that doesn’t happen if both participants belong to different faiths.
Thanks for the historical perspective, always good to know why things are the way they are.
They're not alegal, they're just not performed in the country. It would be like asking to perform a Muslim wedding in a Catholic Church, it's just not done.

For context, UK, the Nordics, and several Eastern European countries all have established Christian religions as the national faith, yet you can't really say that religious minorities in those countries are treated as second class citizens today just because they're not members of the national faith.
 
I'm sorry this just isn't true. Half of the 1948 Christian population of Palestine was expelled or forcibly moved, at a time when they represented 10% to 15% of the total population. This is not a disputed number as far as I'm aware. This was a result of the Nakba.

I would like to issue a public confession, my fellow Kiwis.

Not burger levels of wrongness but I WAS WRONG nonetheless. Can you fucking believe it?? Someone wrong on the fucking internet??

In the above comment I called out @Catch The Rainbow over population numbers but in my internet haste, I incorrectly confused 1948 Palestine (the entire territory of Mandatory Palestine) with Palestine today in the contemporary geopolitical sense (Gaza and West Bank). Then I called him a shill. :(

Altho I still think my overall point still stands, thank you for you attention in this matter.
 
There’s an entire academic and political industry established to rehabilitate literal Marxist terrorists such as Angela Davis, and memebers of Marxist organizations such as Weather Underground and the Black Panthers.

I keep mentioning Burroughs’ book ‘Days of Rage’. Here’s a rundown on the book plus some very thought-provoking material on the machine that seamlessly reinserts violent left-wing extremists back into politics and academia. A great read.
That's an important point. What will need to be done with Antifa once it is broken up is to avoid the mistake the US government made with 1970s terror groups like the Weather Underground. Once their revolution failed, their activists and leaders were allowed to retreat to safe, cozy positions in the media, universities and NGO groups, and carry on their work quietly through slow subversion. Angela Davis is a respected university professor today. Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers are venerated elders of lefty organizing, and groomed Barack Obama into the politician he would become. There was a nice, quiet retreat to a position where these people could escape the stigma of their past and gain social status, living unassuming middle class lives in comfy college towns.

This is the escape route that needs to be cut off. There must be a price to be paid if you are in Antifa, or the myriad tentacles of the DNC. The best realistic solution (discounting helicopter rides) would be to force them into exile, as it happened to a lot of communist and anarchist agitators in 1919, who were just collected, put on a ship and deported to the Soviet Union to be communists elsewhere. The next best thing is to make sure they spend the rest of their lives poor, stigmatized and in perpetual fear of the law. Long prison sentences, RICO charges, the works. Make them pay the price.
 
They did. But what will that achieve?
Another appeal. If they keep doing it they will just get pp slapped by the supreme court again.
The problem is that, unlike a EO where a judge MIGHT have some leeway, this is a funding action that has passed both Congress and Executive. The Judicial branch has absolutely no control here and Johnson has to get off his ass and get a vote to remove this judge.
 
The entire post is third worldist bait that ignores reality but you're the first person I've ever heard argue that the Mossad isn't good at what they do. Even the most retarded Pakistanis don't go this far
Then you really should pay more attention. Especially to Israeli media.

It’s not that long ago that Mossad had a long string of embarrassing failures behind it. Failed assassinations in Jordan, agents caught in Qatar and Australia. The Israeli press had lots of articles going: “Wtf has happened to Mossad and how do we fix it?”
 
The American Civil War resolved outstanding questions of American identity. But we needed about a hundred years of near-zero immigration to digest the results, which we obviously didn't get. And the Russian Empire under the Romanovs wasn't a nation-state.
We had a decent amount of time to solidify it from 1924 to 1965 when we significantly slowed immigration and actually had an education system that actually advanced patriotic pride in the American Experiment.

America's biggest challenge is that it's not really one country, it's closer to like 10, but because of our shared history and English cultural heritage, despite our differences in culture and lifestyle, we make it work better than the artificiality of an EU or Mercosur.
 
you're the first person I've ever heard argue that the Mossad isn't good at what they do
I don't believe they are either. Whenever a Mossad operation gets leaked, it reads something like "twenty-eight agents infiltrated this hotel to shoot one guy with no security or weapons in his hotel room, then had a pizza party at HQ for doing such an amazing job." Or "another hospital was destroyed, ensuring no women or children survivors." Or "we spammed black cuckold porn on an anti-Zionist web forum, further fueling their hatred for the jewish people."
 
Ultimately Antifa should be banned as a terrorist organization, though I would imagine it would not solve the issue of liberals and leftists being violently insane (they would join successor groups).
I think your going about this wrong. ANTIFA, from what i've noticed, isn't exactly a set up "Group", with leaders, structure, etc. it's more of a raving milita/protest collective that gets their weapons from the black market. If you ban them, your going to have to find their "Leaders", which I doubt they have. also, there will be numerous splinter groups, like when the SDS and Weathermen died off. a lot won't do anything besides protest, but the most militant of which will actually start killing people/bombing buildings again.
 
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